2016 Postmortem

auntpurl

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23. Thank you for your reply, great post.

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 09:02 AM

Jul 2016

I understand and I hear you with everything you say, but I can only reply the way I did to Armstead above:

They are helping Donald Trump win. That is...there is no excuse for that. There just isn't. The world is watching with knots in their stomachs. I know, I live somewhere else, and I know how people are feeling. US elections are front page headlines everywhere in the world because we control so much world policy.

And when I say "they", I am talking SPECIFICALLY about the protestors at the convention. NOT the left in general!

It's not that I believe or don't believe in what they are protesting about. It's that they are helping Trump win. If the media continues to show the Democratic party as a divided, disorganised mess, and our candidate as someone who can't even win the support of her own party members (which is NOT the case, but the media is scouring that convention hall looking for disaffected young people who want to air their grievances in front of a camera), independents and other people who don't pay that much attention to politics are going to look at us and say, "They do not look like they have their shit together. They can't even run a convention; what makes them think they can run the country? I'm voting for the law and order guy."

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The legacy of "The Left" [View all] auntpurl Jul 2016 OP

Wow. Nicely written, Auntpurl. It covers everything. Perfect! NurseJackie Jul 2016 #1

Thank you. auntpurl Jul 2016 #4

Consider this an almost Rec Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #2

I hear you, and I have removed the "liar" part from my OP. auntpurl Jul 2016 #3

Thank you. OK, close enoiugh for a Rec then :) Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #9

Brava auntpurl! rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #5

Well, as I did in my OP, I want to make a distinction auntpurl Jul 2016 #10

Tired of the hippie punching. TDale313 Jul 2016 #6

Oh, brother. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #8

That is literally the opposite of the point I was making. auntpurl Jul 2016 #11

"Hippie punching" forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #25

Well written Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #7

The parliamentary system has its own problems auntpurl Jul 2016 #14

Thanks for your reply Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #16

There are more choices here, and more "viable" choices auntpurl Jul 2016 #19

This is a long article Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #21

They aren't the real left, fortunately. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #12

Whether they are or not (I don't know what's in someone's heart) auntpurl Jul 2016 #17

I don't think they can organize their way out of a paper bag. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #29

There is some truth in that, but you are WAY overgeneralizing Armstead Jul 2016 #13

The only way I can reply is to say auntpurl Jul 2016 #20

As to your basic point Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #15

It's always a tough question but auntpurl Jul 2016 #22

The state of California has been taken over and is run by what used to be "The Left." Tatiana Jul 2016 #18

Thank you for your reply, great post. auntpurl Jul 2016 #23

I understand your concerns and I think we agree. Tatiana Jul 2016 #30

Yes, we do agree. auntpurl Jul 2016 #35

The new left are not good at organizing and give up too quickly. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #24

I suspect all young people always have felt that way auntpurl Jul 2016 #27

"Hey hey, LBJ, How many kids did you kill today!" Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #34

Yeah, pretty much sums it up perfectly. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #26

Thanks nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #32

I think you might like this article forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #28

Yeah, wow, this is amazing. auntpurl Jul 2016 #31

We actually have a model for what coalition politics can do: The "Front Populaire" of the 30s/40s. forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #33

You might need a Hitler to fight against to make people come together like that auntpurl Jul 2016 #36

I think it's silly to worry about them. Orsino Jul 2016 #37

I've been phone-banking for Hillary all afternoon between work auntpurl Jul 2016 #38

I guess it's time tor me to put up... Orsino Jul 2016 #43

What do we want? Gradual incremental change! TransitJohn Jul 2016 #39

"Where are we going?!" "PLANET TEN!!" klook Jul 2016 #46

Here is a fact. The radical fringe started warning you all about Trump decades ago. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #40

Cool, so what you're saying is you are fine with the media's characterization of the left JCanete Jul 2016 #41

I know you're afraid of how the media and voters are viewing the protesters. Avalux Jul 2016 #42

K&R JoePhilly Jul 2016 #44

Hillary supporters-it's time to turn the page. Focus on Trump, he's the real problem. jalan48 Jul 2016 #45