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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: The legacy of "The Left" [View all]

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
30. I understand your concerns and I think we agree.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jul 2016

Trump must be stopped at all costs. Anyone who says they will vote for Trump is not a member of any "left." They are giving aid and comfort to a "home grown demagogue."

Agent provocateurs have been participants in every major movement for social and economic justice. I don't think this is an exception. Because of the poor leadership at the DNC, our local democratic parties often don't have the resources to do the proper vetting of delegates. I have been shocked to learn from members of other states on this board how their states go about sending delegates. There is a much more stringent process in Illinois (which has a stronger and financially rich Democratic party).

That process of vetting has to be improved and the resources have to be allocated to do so. But even then, even with a closed primary, we still have to address the issues brought forth by honest protesters (who will vote for Clinton). Illinois cast 74 votes for Bernie Sanders at the convention. I know several of those delegates for Bernie and they're long-time Democrats.

The party (and its candidates) have got to start being responsive to the people. And the protesters have made a difference. Democrats like Terry McAuliffe are thrilled with TPP and realize it represents a financial boon to investors, retailers, and other members of the monied and business sectors. But Hillary has refused support of TPP, in spite of the fact that I'm sure she's receiving a lot of pressure to support it. I hope she sticks to her guns.

The Clinton stance on TPP shows the actions of the "Left" are making a difference. It also shows that Hillary has the strength, intelligence and fortitude to do what's right even when she disagrees with her own party insiders.

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The legacy of "The Left" [View all] auntpurl Jul 2016 OP
Wow. Nicely written, Auntpurl. It covers everything. Perfect! NurseJackie Jul 2016 #1
Thank you. auntpurl Jul 2016 #4
Consider this an almost Rec Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #2
I hear you, and I have removed the "liar" part from my OP. auntpurl Jul 2016 #3
Thank you. OK, close enoiugh for a Rec then :) Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #9
Brava auntpurl! rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #5
Well, as I did in my OP, I want to make a distinction auntpurl Jul 2016 #10
Tired of the hippie punching. TDale313 Jul 2016 #6
Oh, brother. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #8
That is literally the opposite of the point I was making. auntpurl Jul 2016 #11
"Hippie punching" forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #25
Well written Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #7
The parliamentary system has its own problems auntpurl Jul 2016 #14
Thanks for your reply Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #16
There are more choices here, and more "viable" choices auntpurl Jul 2016 #19
This is a long article Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #21
They aren't the real left, fortunately. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #12
Whether they are or not (I don't know what's in someone's heart) auntpurl Jul 2016 #17
I don't think they can organize their way out of a paper bag. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #29
There is some truth in that, but you are WAY overgeneralizing Armstead Jul 2016 #13
The only way I can reply is to say auntpurl Jul 2016 #20
As to your basic point Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #15
It's always a tough question but auntpurl Jul 2016 #22
The state of California has been taken over and is run by what used to be "The Left." Tatiana Jul 2016 #18
Thank you for your reply, great post. auntpurl Jul 2016 #23
I understand your concerns and I think we agree. Tatiana Jul 2016 #30
Yes, we do agree. auntpurl Jul 2016 #35
The new left are not good at organizing and give up too quickly. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #24
I suspect all young people always have felt that way auntpurl Jul 2016 #27
"Hey hey, LBJ, How many kids did you kill today!" Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #34
Yeah, pretty much sums it up perfectly. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #26
Thanks nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #32
I think you might like this article forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #28
Yeah, wow, this is amazing. auntpurl Jul 2016 #31
We actually have a model for what coalition politics can do: The "Front Populaire" of the 30s/40s. forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #33
You might need a Hitler to fight against to make people come together like that auntpurl Jul 2016 #36
I think it's silly to worry about them. Orsino Jul 2016 #37
I've been phone-banking for Hillary all afternoon between work auntpurl Jul 2016 #38
I guess it's time tor me to put up... Orsino Jul 2016 #43
What do we want? Gradual incremental change! TransitJohn Jul 2016 #39
"Where are we going?!" "PLANET TEN!!" klook Jul 2016 #46
Here is a fact. The radical fringe started warning you all about Trump decades ago. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #40
Cool, so what you're saying is you are fine with the media's characterization of the left JCanete Jul 2016 #41
I know you're afraid of how the media and voters are viewing the protesters. Avalux Jul 2016 #42
K&R JoePhilly Jul 2016 #44
Hillary supporters-it's time to turn the page. Focus on Trump, he's the real problem. jalan48 Jul 2016 #45
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