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misterhighwasted

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82. Certainly. Tea Party was a Koch brainchild to divide the GOP.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 02:45 PM
Aug 2016

And Palin was their voice.

With the success of that movement they found a willing demographic . They are simply repeating the methods of the Tea Party emergence, with the DEM Party in 2016.
This time around, their Libertarian fringe is the Left Wing version of the RW Tea Party.

The two are one in the same. Founded & Funded by the same and with one goal.

I believe they can do some damage in 2016 but doubt they are united enough to make the same easy entrance into the Dem Party.
Which is why the Dem Primary needs to keep their Super Delegates. This is the firewall that makes it much more difficult to gain dominance in the Dem Party. Unlike the ease at which the Kochs divided the GOP via the Tea Party.

Koch's JBS are a rotten nasty anti-American political fringe.
They should remain there.


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Republicans are far more likely to vote for a Libertarian candidate MineralMan Aug 2016 #1
I don't think anything about this election season PatSeg Aug 2016 #13
I honestly do not believe that there are enough of these people you speak of to make a big Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #93
it will split the Repuke vote, ensuring an even greater Electoral College landslide KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #19
That's my take on it, as well. MineralMan Aug 2016 #21
It would, however, be delicious to see Trump come in fourth, behind HRC. KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #26
I think we have to remember PatSeg Aug 2016 #28
DU is not what I study when I'm studying an election. MineralMan Aug 2016 #65
I think some people PatSeg Aug 2016 #67
Libertarian candidates tend to attract more conservative Republicans. MineralMan Aug 2016 #72
Very interesting PatSeg Aug 2016 #74
I think it's especially true for Republican women. MineralMan Aug 2016 #76
And I can totally identify PatSeg Aug 2016 #78
I've got to say it's shocking how pissed off and irrational the haters are... Impossible bettyellen Aug 2016 #80
I never actually argue with Republicans. MineralMan Aug 2016 #83
I think it's good to let people know their bullying ways don't effect you... bettyellen Aug 2016 #85
Yes, I think that's right, too. If there are disaffected Dems, angry that Sanders didn't win and who Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #96
This is an unusual year Expecting Rain Aug 2016 #150
A fair number of self-identified Democrats are choosing him oberliner Aug 2016 #113
Really? Show me some actual numbers, then, that MineralMan Aug 2016 #134
It's a pretty small number oberliner Aug 2016 #136
show it Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #141
I thought I had seen it in one of the polls oberliner Aug 2016 #151
A lot of young people who would have voted dem find Gary Johnson appealing IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #132
How many voters in that "lot." MineralMan Aug 2016 #133
So I guess you agree with me then IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #135
oddly enough, most polls I've seen show he hurts Clinton a little bit more than Trump Bucky Aug 2016 #138
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #2
Sp you don't care about their horrendous views on economic issues? HERVEPA Aug 2016 #4
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Good reply. Springslips Aug 2016 #9
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Thunderdome PatSeg Aug 2016 #57
I agree with Springslips PatSeg Aug 2016 #16
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Oh please Massachussetts and New Mexico have a habit of electing the GOP. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #33
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And Scott Brown as well as Romney. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #46
What's your point again? rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #48
Third party nothings do not threaten Democrats in either of those states. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #89
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In MA we elect Repub GOVERNORS primarily because of an overwhelming majority of D's in seaglass Aug 2016 #144
Pulling Dem votes in blue states by Johnson is a concern, a small on though brush Aug 2016 #130
It's not a matter of not caring, it's a matter of which compromises you want to make. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #8
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Democracy entails compromise PatSeg Aug 2016 #17
Screw Stein Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #31
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Consider she has never been in charge of foreign policy Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #29
Hillary's views are well known and have been expressed many ways over the years. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #107
We don't know what her policy will be. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #110
We *do* know what her general inclinations are. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #111
Wrong...all you know is what has been reported in the various attacks on her from different sources. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #137
Her own book is not an attack source. Neither are numerous other factual sources. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #139
Oh please Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #143
Like I said, I've been avoiding making judgements here, but just discussing facts as we know them. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #145
I do not consider killing Bin Laden hawkish Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #146
Again, re: Bin Laden & Libya, I offered no opinion about whether these were GOOD or BAD decisions. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #147
It is not agressive to try to save lives. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #148
re: "Never forget, we broke it and now we sort of own it." thesquanderer Aug 2016 #149
Though I find Johnson PatSeg Aug 2016 #15
in a hypothetical match up between Johnson and Trump, Johnson should KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #30
Very well said PatSeg Aug 2016 #39
The Pied Piper of 420 crowd Protalker Aug 2016 #40
Yep PatSeg Aug 2016 #41
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Also there are people PatSeg Aug 2016 #60
Legalizing weed isn't an issue just for "dopers" Arazi Aug 2016 #109
Johnson is not the least bit progressive -- he is an extreme wingnut obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #77
Johnson Whose Construction Company Big J burrowowl Aug 2016 #125
Libertarians want to get high and not let black people use their gas station rest room. TeamPooka Aug 2016 #126
Agreed ... I've been seeing more mention of him in media than I'd expect Auggie Aug 2016 #3
Thankfully the cwazy Repubs seem more likely to vote for this guy. highprincipleswork Aug 2016 #6
Maybe, maybe not PatSeg Aug 2016 #22
Why do we want to view Stein who is running ads against our Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #25
My concern is that Democrats PatSeg Aug 2016 #37
Johnson is not running ads in swing states Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #45
Johnson is socially liberal PatSeg Aug 2016 #52
He is fiscally way worse than even the GOP Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #88
Your "concern" is demonstrably selective to Jill Stien and the Green party. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #91
Thank you...she is a boil on the arse of humanity. hehe...nt. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #92
That is not true PatSeg Aug 2016 #114
I agree re. the name-calling. I also agree Johnson is the bigger threat. Beartracks Aug 2016 #128
If I was a relatively PatSeg Aug 2016 #131
He'll take votes away from Rump. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #7
Some of the repugs in my office are supporting Johnson SharonClark Aug 2016 #50
Some people just can't, or won't, think for themselves. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #71
In my office, in Chicago, many are looking at Johnson apnu Aug 2016 #79
I do believe that her campaign is prepared for whomever is her challenger. She is too. nt glennward Aug 2016 #10
Definitely not worried kurt_cagle Aug 2016 #14
Lol! zappaman Aug 2016 #18
That is a problem more for the GOP Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #24
Trump would not want Johnson on stage...as johnsons hate for trump beachbumbob Aug 2016 #27
There is no shortage of Trump haters! PatSeg Aug 2016 #32
For the record I am not worried about Stein or Johnson. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #35
Libertarian & Tea Party were founded & funded by the Koch Family John Birch Society misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #38
Do you think the Koch brothers PatSeg Aug 2016 #42
I do and the 15% I think I read puts them on the ballot in future elections which as extreme as the Person 2713 Aug 2016 #47
It just feels like PatSeg Aug 2016 #54
True. The Tea Party sounded a lot like Republicans until they got to Congress. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #59
We've already gotten a taste of that PatSeg Aug 2016 #61
Yes. Through funding & policy push. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #49
Yes, they are very calculating PatSeg Aug 2016 #53
Their goal is to pull the extreme Right & the extrme Left into the misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #56
With people like the Koch brothers PatSeg Aug 2016 #62
They are a danger till their last breath. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #66
And maybe beyond PatSeg Aug 2016 #68
Oh I completely agree. They are building a legacy of fringers to last forever. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #69
Wouldn't you say PatSeg Aug 2016 #73
Certainly. Tea Party was a Koch brainchild to divide the GOP. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #82
Some things don't change all that much PatSeg Aug 2016 #87
I watched their Town Meeting on CNN this week getting old in mke Aug 2016 #43
They are lying . They say what gives them rise but when misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #51
No doubt. getting old in mke Aug 2016 #58
Oh no, seriously? PatSeg Aug 2016 #64
Yes!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #98
That's very interesting PatSeg Aug 2016 #63
Libertarians are wolves in sheep's clothing Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #95
Exactly! They are more dangerous than ReThugs because they tend to be hyper-nationalists and Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #103
Exactly right...someone on this site told me Libertians Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #121
For such a socially Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #140
Indeed and makes them among other reasons a non-started for me and for my family. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #142
Libertarians. Republicans who like to smoke dope and get laid. bananakabob Aug 2016 #55
To your post I would only add Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #94
LMAO!!! ^^^^THIS!!^^^ Absoutely right! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #99
bwahahahaha too right you are!!! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #129
He's not gonna peel off any votes from Hillary. kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #75
He will steal votes from the TrumpenFührer workinclasszero Aug 2016 #81
I would be happy to have Johnson in the debates democrattotheend Aug 2016 #84
Libertarians are mostly young white males. Koinos Aug 2016 #86
And most of them are just as racist, if not moreso, than Republicans. They tend to be isolationists, Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #101
I agree. Koinos Aug 2016 #105
What about young Ron Paul supporters PatSeg Aug 2016 #112
Yes, and selfish individualists. I think of Ayn Rand. Koinos Aug 2016 #120
That is for sure PatSeg Aug 2016 #123
libertarians are not liberal. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #122
I think a lot of very young Ron Paul PatSeg Aug 2016 #124
Oh enough already! Your repeated and noxious defense of Stein and the Greens is odious Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #97
Pretty much nothing you said is true PatSeg Aug 2016 #115
Johnson is anti-choice. He'll drain some repubs from Trump. n/t cynatnite Aug 2016 #100
Any Democrat GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #102
Nope. It's always the liberals fault. vi5 Aug 2016 #104
That is the general stance of the puritopian malcontent indigo kids of the Green party. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #106
I find Gary Johnson to be a bit of a goofball JDC Aug 2016 #108
Raven Symone was gushing over him on The View ecstatic Aug 2016 #116
Sadly that is what drew PatSeg Aug 2016 #117
It seems that a lot of people have a fundamental misunderstanding about Gary Johnson TwilightZone Aug 2016 #118
Sadly PatSeg Aug 2016 #119
normally this would not apply DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #127
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