2016 Postmortem

PatSeg

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112. What about young Ron Paul supporters

Reply to Koinos (Reply #86)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 06:30 PM

Aug 2016

It seems that many of them were relatively liberal, just politically naive.

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This is who Democrats should be worried about, not Stein [View all] PatSeg Aug 2016 OP

Republicans are far more likely to vote for a Libertarian candidate MineralMan Aug 2016 #1

I don't think anything about this election season PatSeg Aug 2016 #13

I honestly do not believe that there are enough of these people you speak of to make a big Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #93

it will split the Repuke vote, ensuring an even greater Electoral College landslide KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #19

That's my take on it, as well. MineralMan Aug 2016 #21

It would, however, be delicious to see Trump come in fourth, behind HRC. KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #26

I think we have to remember PatSeg Aug 2016 #28

DU is not what I study when I'm studying an election. MineralMan Aug 2016 #65

I think some people PatSeg Aug 2016 #67

Libertarian candidates tend to attract more conservative Republicans. MineralMan Aug 2016 #72

Very interesting PatSeg Aug 2016 #74

I think it's especially true for Republican women. MineralMan Aug 2016 #76

And I can totally identify PatSeg Aug 2016 #78

I've got to say it's shocking how pissed off and irrational the haters are... Impossible bettyellen Aug 2016 #80

I never actually argue with Republicans. MineralMan Aug 2016 #83

I think it's good to let people know their bullying ways don't effect you... bettyellen Aug 2016 #85

Yes, I think that's right, too. If there are disaffected Dems, angry that Sanders didn't win and who Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #96

This is an unusual year Expecting Rain Aug 2016 #150

A fair number of self-identified Democrats are choosing him oberliner Aug 2016 #113

Really? Show me some actual numbers, then, that MineralMan Aug 2016 #134

It's a pretty small number oberliner Aug 2016 #136

show it Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #141

I thought I had seen it in one of the polls oberliner Aug 2016 #151

A lot of young people who would have voted dem find Gary Johnson appealing IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #132

How many voters in that "lot." MineralMan Aug 2016 #133

So I guess you agree with me then IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #135

oddly enough, most polls I've seen show he hurts Clinton a little bit more than Trump Bucky Aug 2016 #138

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Sp you don't care about their horrendous views on economic issues? HERVEPA Aug 2016 #4

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Good reply. Springslips Aug 2016 #9

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Thunderdome PatSeg Aug 2016 #57

I agree with Springslips PatSeg Aug 2016 #16

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Oh please Massachussetts and New Mexico have a habit of electing the GOP. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #33

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And Scott Brown as well as Romney. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #46

What's your point again? rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #48

Third party nothings do not threaten Democrats in either of those states. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #89

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In MA we elect Repub GOVERNORS primarily because of an overwhelming majority of D's in seaglass Aug 2016 #144

Pulling Dem votes in blue states by Johnson is a concern, a small on though brush Aug 2016 #130

It's not a matter of not caring, it's a matter of which compromises you want to make. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #8

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Democracy entails compromise PatSeg Aug 2016 #17

Screw Stein Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #31

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Consider she has never been in charge of foreign policy Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #29

Hillary's views are well known and have been expressed many ways over the years. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #107

We don't know what her policy will be. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #110

We *do* know what her general inclinations are. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #111

Wrong...all you know is what has been reported in the various attacks on her from different sources. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #137

Her own book is not an attack source. Neither are numerous other factual sources. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #139

Oh please Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #143

Like I said, I've been avoiding making judgements here, but just discussing facts as we know them. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #145

I do not consider killing Bin Laden hawkish Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #146

Again, re: Bin Laden & Libya, I offered no opinion about whether these were GOOD or BAD decisions. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #147

It is not agressive to try to save lives. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #148

re: "Never forget, we broke it and now we sort of own it." thesquanderer Aug 2016 #149

Though I find Johnson PatSeg Aug 2016 #15

in a hypothetical match up between Johnson and Trump, Johnson should KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #30

Very well said PatSeg Aug 2016 #39

The Pied Piper of 420 crowd Protalker Aug 2016 #40

Yep PatSeg Aug 2016 #41

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Also there are people PatSeg Aug 2016 #60

Legalizing weed isn't an issue just for "dopers" Arazi Aug 2016 #109

Johnson is not the least bit progressive -- he is an extreme wingnut obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #70

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Johnson Whose Construction Company Big J burrowowl Aug 2016 #125

Libertarians want to get high and not let black people use their gas station rest room. TeamPooka Aug 2016 #126

Agreed ... I've been seeing more mention of him in media than I'd expect Auggie Aug 2016 #3

Thankfully the cwazy Repubs seem more likely to vote for this guy. highprincipleswork Aug 2016 #6

Maybe, maybe not PatSeg Aug 2016 #22

Why do we want to view Stein who is running ads against our Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #25

My concern is that Democrats PatSeg Aug 2016 #37

Johnson is not running ads in swing states Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #45

Johnson is socially liberal PatSeg Aug 2016 #52

He is fiscally way worse than even the GOP Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #88

Your "concern" is demonstrably selective to Jill Stien and the Green party. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #91

Thank you...she is a boil on the arse of humanity. hehe...nt. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #92

That is not true PatSeg Aug 2016 #114

I agree re. the name-calling. I also agree Johnson is the bigger threat. Beartracks Aug 2016 #128

If I was a relatively PatSeg Aug 2016 #131

He'll take votes away from Rump. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #7

Some of the repugs in my office are supporting Johnson SharonClark Aug 2016 #50

Some people just can't, or won't, think for themselves. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #71

In my office, in Chicago, many are looking at Johnson apnu Aug 2016 #79

I do believe that her campaign is prepared for whomever is her challenger. She is too. nt glennward Aug 2016 #10

Definitely not worried kurt_cagle Aug 2016 #14

Lol! zappaman Aug 2016 #18

That is a problem more for the GOP Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #24

Trump would not want Johnson on stage...as johnsons hate for trump beachbumbob Aug 2016 #27

There is no shortage of Trump haters! PatSeg Aug 2016 #32

For the record I am not worried about Stein or Johnson. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #35

Libertarian & Tea Party were founded & funded by the Koch Family John Birch Society misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #38

Do you think the Koch brothers PatSeg Aug 2016 #42

I do and the 15% I think I read puts them on the ballot in future elections which as extreme as the Person 2713 Aug 2016 #47

It just feels like PatSeg Aug 2016 #54

True. The Tea Party sounded a lot like Republicans until they got to Congress. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #59

We've already gotten a taste of that PatSeg Aug 2016 #61

Yes. Through funding & policy push. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #49

Yes, they are very calculating PatSeg Aug 2016 #53

Their goal is to pull the extreme Right & the extrme Left into the misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #56

With people like the Koch brothers PatSeg Aug 2016 #62

They are a danger till their last breath. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #66

And maybe beyond PatSeg Aug 2016 #68

Oh I completely agree. They are building a legacy of fringers to last forever. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #69

Wouldn't you say PatSeg Aug 2016 #73

Certainly. Tea Party was a Koch brainchild to divide the GOP. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #82

Some things don't change all that much PatSeg Aug 2016 #87

I watched their Town Meeting on CNN this week getting old in mke Aug 2016 #43

They are lying . They say what gives them rise but when misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #51

No doubt. getting old in mke Aug 2016 #58

Oh no, seriously? PatSeg Aug 2016 #64

Yes!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #98

That's very interesting PatSeg Aug 2016 #63

Libertarians are wolves in sheep's clothing Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #95

Exactly! They are more dangerous than ReThugs because they tend to be hyper-nationalists and Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #103

Exactly right...someone on this site told me Libertians Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #121

For such a socially Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #140

Indeed and makes them among other reasons a non-started for me and for my family. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #142

Libertarians. Republicans who like to smoke dope and get laid. bananakabob Aug 2016 #55

To your post I would only add Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #94

LMAO!!! ^^^^THIS!!^^^ Absoutely right! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #99

bwahahahaha too right you are!!! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #129

He's not gonna peel off any votes from Hillary. kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #75

He will steal votes from the TrumpenF�hrer workinclasszero Aug 2016 #81

I would be happy to have Johnson in the debates democrattotheend Aug 2016 #84

Libertarians are mostly young white males. Koinos Aug 2016 #86

And most of them are just as racist, if not moreso, than Republicans. They tend to be isolationists, Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #101

I agree. Koinos Aug 2016 #105

What about young Ron Paul supporters PatSeg Aug 2016 #112

Yes, and selfish individualists. I think of Ayn Rand. Koinos Aug 2016 #120

That is for sure PatSeg Aug 2016 #123

libertarians are not liberal. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #122

I think a lot of very young Ron Paul PatSeg Aug 2016 #124

Oh enough already! Your repeated and noxious defense of Stein and the Greens is odious Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #97

Pretty much nothing you said is true PatSeg Aug 2016 #115

Johnson is anti-choice. He'll drain some repubs from Trump. n/t cynatnite Aug 2016 #100

Any Democrat GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #102

Nope. It's always the liberals fault. vi5 Aug 2016 #104

That is the general stance of the puritopian malcontent indigo kids of the Green party. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #106

I find Gary Johnson to be a bit of a goofball JDC Aug 2016 #108

Raven Symone was gushing over him on The View ecstatic Aug 2016 #116

Sadly that is what drew PatSeg Aug 2016 #117

It seems that a lot of people have a fundamental misunderstanding about Gary Johnson TwilightZone Aug 2016 #118

Sadly PatSeg Aug 2016 #119

normally this would not apply DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #127