2016 Postmortem

George Eliot

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149. I believe he's our best or one of best secretarys of state also.

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:43 PM

Aug 2016

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Not a hawk. I admire his accomplishments. Adding to this response, his service to America in Viet Nam and then his willingness to come home and try to right the ship regarding the mess in Viet Nam showed an early integrity I've always admired. I've never seen a single admonishment or accusation about him. And he's been in service to the country his whole life.

Probably not such a good idea to claim one person is better than any other. The Party has a lot of really good people serving.

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Go ahead, name me one currently serving Democrat [View all] KMOD Aug 2016 OP

I took this opportunity to list all of the Repubicans who have accomplished more. JoePhilly Aug 2016 #1

I know, right? KMOD Aug 2016 #4

Thank you for this thread, KMOD!! Haveadream Aug 2016 #62

Beautiful. KMOD Aug 2016 #68

So proud of our nominee! Haveadream Aug 2016 #71

me too! KMOD Aug 2016 #73

She worked hard with her heart on helping others, thanks for sharing, her life Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #112

John Lewis... chillfactor Aug 2016 #2

I love John Lewis. KMOD Aug 2016 #3

Oh, and John Lewis is with her. KMOD Aug 2016 #7

oh, yes, I agree - a great man. MBS Aug 2016 #48

John Lewis and Elijah Cummings sheshe2 Aug 2016 #5

Yup! KMOD Aug 2016 #8

Love these pics, she! Haveadream Aug 2016 #64

Hugs~ sheshe2 Aug 2016 #66

They have her back and she has theirs. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #117

Both are real jewels, we are lucky to have them working in Congress. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #113

Seems that a lot of "constructive criticism" people KMOD Aug 2016 #6

Threads like these serve to cheerlead Clinton. That's fine, that's cool. PoliticalMalcontent Aug 2016 #9

Well can you name a current Democrat who has accomplished more? KMOD Aug 2016 #11

Sounds like you're trying to goad people into knocking Hillary. Why? thesquanderer Aug 2016 #18

No. My goal is to celebrate the wonderul candidate we have. KMOD Aug 2016 #20

re: "My goal is to celebrate the wonderul candidate we have." thesquanderer Aug 2016 #23

You consider that cheerleading? KMOD Aug 2016 #24

For my part, yeah, I consider it cheerleading. Jim Lane Aug 2016 #25

Free discussion in certainly still allowed. KMOD Aug 2016 #27

Thanks for the invitation, but my interpretation of the rules differs from yours. (n/t) Jim Lane Aug 2016 #44

Not really Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #78

There are very few who have not received a hide this election season. KMOD Aug 2016 #81

President Obama thinks she's the most qualified candidate we've ever had! Haveadream Aug 2016 #67

and that KMOD Aug 2016 #69

I will miss him so much! Haveadream Aug 2016 #74

Not only did Lefthacker Aug 2016 #151

It's not a statement, it's a question. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #41

Well, KMOD Aug 2016 #42

I suggested some possibilities in post #18, so I don't know why you're asking me again. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #45

What a confusing thing! wncHillsupport Aug 2016 #72

We know KMOD Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #79

A lot of people here just like to fight. KMOD Aug 2016 #83

Understandable. What you call a mystery isn't always clear even to us old-timers. Jim Lane Aug 2016 #84

Some people don't know REAL history and don't know how crucial Kerry has been in blm Aug 2016 #102

Kerry is an excellent Democrat. amandabeech Aug 2016 #152

Exactly - which is why the challenge made is not only odd blm Aug 2016 #153

Right. amandabeech Aug 2016 #155

Thank you for the referral to that editorial. n/t amandabeech Aug 2016 #156

You just don't like seeing a pro-Hillary OP for some reason. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #148

Kerry has accomplished more. She will be given the chance to surpass him, but, blm Aug 2016 #93

Wow on a Democratic board sheshe2 Aug 2016 #36

it's the crazy train, ain't it. KMOD Aug 2016 #40

How dare you KMOD... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #47

lol KMOD Aug 2016 #115

Lol~ sheshe2 Aug 2016 #116

re: "you are saying we are not allowed to cheer our President elect in the GE?" thesquanderer Aug 2016 #46

How in the heck is asking this question, flamebait? KMOD Aug 2016 #50

Love this celebratory thread! Haveadream Aug 2016 #70

Exactly! It is a time for celebration. KMOD Aug 2016 #76

Your question was "who has accomplished more than Hillary." thesquanderer Aug 2016 #75

The answer is up to you. KMOD Aug 2016 #77

Again, I gave names in post #18. I don't know why you keep asking me to answer again. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2016 #80

Well OK, then. KMOD Aug 2016 #82

if you read the thread you will see I mentioned Elijah Cummings and John Lewis, sheshe2 Aug 2016 #118

The intent was to challenge the "critical" & "concerned" to come up with someone more accomplished. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #119

actually it's been a wonderful thread to point out KMOD Aug 2016 #128

I don't see anyone taking offense at this as a positive Hillary Clinton thread. thesquanderer Aug 2016 #129

It implicitly attacks every other very significant Democrat karynnj Aug 2016 #134

The success of Hillary Clinton is certainly not KMOD Aug 2016 #140

This thread BEGS people to say others are better karynnj Aug 2016 #133

Okay, since you asked.... I'll bite Armstead Aug 2016 #122

Challenge accepted. Barack Obama. strategery blunder Aug 2016 #10

Well sadly, he can't run again. KMOD Aug 2016 #13

A friendly contest between Barack and Hillary to see who would make the best president strategery blunder Aug 2016 #14

absolutely. KMOD Aug 2016 #16

Not the question as ked karynnj Aug 2016 #131

President Obama has been the best President in KMOD Aug 2016 #141

Yes. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #12

Crazy, ain't it? KMOD Aug 2016 #15

I wonder why that is? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #17

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #19

Wow! Please list the accomplishments of any of the above that KMOD Aug 2016 #21

Are you serious? ptownbro Aug 2016 #26

You didn't name any of their accomplishments? KMOD Aug 2016 #30

Ever hear of IranContra, BCCI, S&Ls, CIA drug running? blm Aug 2016 #107

Just as you did not list HRC's karynnj Aug 2016 #132

He was very, very much unfairly maligned by the worst of the Repug hacks. amandabeech Aug 2016 #157

"currently serving Democrat" was the question nt pkdu Aug 2016 #43

Barack Obama, hands down. MgtPA Aug 2016 #22

Who should he pass the baton onto? KMOD Aug 2016 #28

I was responding to your OP, which did not pose the question of baton passing. MgtPA Aug 2016 #38

Well, to me Hillary opening the door so disabled children could attend school puts her in a lunamagica Aug 2016 #85

To some, that is wedge issue stuff. KMOD Aug 2016 #105

I know, but that makes her involvement even more admirable lunamagica Aug 2016 #109

exactly! KMOD Aug 2016 #114

I think that tonight I convinced my brother in law to vote properly in November. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #29

I have read through all of the responses to your thread... chillfactor Aug 2016 #31

User name checks out. StrictlyRockers Aug 2016 #32

Hillary's accomplishments KMOD Aug 2016 #33

33rd post in the thread. StrictlyRockers Aug 2016 #34

Thank you. KMOD Aug 2016 #37

I'm actually with you on this. StrictlyRockers Aug 2016 #35

lol KMOD Aug 2016 #39

I'd say Biden and Kerry have both accomplished a lot. phleshdef Aug 2016 #49

Yes, they have. KMOD Aug 2016 #51

Kerry definitely does. phleshdef Aug 2016 #52

And Kerry has exposed more government corruption than any blm Aug 2016 #94

I think Hillary has done more to get women, POC and LGBT in the higher level of government than bettyellen Aug 2016 #124

Kerry was incredibly good on all those issues from the time he karynnj Aug 2016 #135

I love Kerry but I think the reason for this thread is we have seen a good nine months of people bettyellen Aug 2016 #137

This thread intentionally compares and assumes a HRC karynnj Aug 2016 #138

I preferred Obama and never expected anyone to genuflect for fucks sake.... bettyellen Aug 2016 #139

Nobody said you couldn't have your opinion. KMOD Aug 2016 #144

Well said. BTW, Gore was quite accomplished as well. George Eliot Aug 2016 #150

Exactly! KMOD Aug 2016 #142

Then it's a safe bet that you are not strong on modern history. blm Aug 2016 #89

Lyndon Baines Johnson? guillaumeb Aug 2016 #53

The OP said "currently serving Democrat" democrattotheend Aug 2016 #59

So it did. My fault and my apologies. eom guillaumeb Aug 2016 #61

Perhaps the Texans have established an "Eternal President" title similar to North Korea. DemocraticWing Aug 2016 #120

Obama has accomplished much more, of course. Vattel Aug 2016 #54

Not accomplishing a lot? KMOD Aug 2016 #55

I agree that her voting record as a senator is mostly good. Vattel Aug 2016 #56

Fair enough, and I'll take it. KMOD Aug 2016 #57

I don't think her record is exceptionally good. But she is way better than virtually any Repub. Vattel Aug 2016 #58

Well I look forward to her winning you over and convincing you. KMOD Aug 2016 #60

I am hoping that she does well as President. I hope that she is less hawkish than I fear. Vattel Aug 2016 #63

Stronger Together! KMOD Aug 2016 #65

One of my favorite Hillary senatorial accomplishments is lapucelle Aug 2016 #92

That is a good accomplishment. Vattel Aug 2016 #98

Look closely at #3. lapucelle Aug 2016 #96

Give your husband a great big high-five KMOD Aug 2016 #100

Nicholad Kristof wrote something last Sunday about the "sniper fire" story lapucelle Aug 2016 #87

Yes, it is certainly possible that the story was a case of misremembering and not a lie. Vattel Aug 2016 #103

It was the media being disingenuous as always. KMOD Aug 2016 #110

You must not know much about Kerry. Name me one person in DC who has blm Aug 2016 #86

what makes Hillary, Hillary KMOD Aug 2016 #88

No - I don't have to - I KNOW what has gone on the last 6 decades that you blm Aug 2016 #91

You seem to think you know me. KMOD Aug 2016 #95

IOW, you STILL don't want to acknowledge CORRECT answers. blm Aug 2016 #99

What is your correct answer that I'm not acknowledging? KMOD Aug 2016 #101

Read your thread. Name someone who's accomplished more� OK�.Kerry. blm Aug 2016 #104

I have not dismissed any of John Kerry's efforts. KMOD Aug 2016 #106

That's absurd. No Kerry, no President Clinton in 93. blm Aug 2016 #108

You are losing me now. KMOD Aug 2016 #111

Sorry - I can't force anybody to learn about this blm Aug 2016 #123

Once again, I never dismissed John Kerry's accomplishments. KMOD Aug 2016 #126

You sound like you have no idea what bills were written and blm Aug 2016 #154

Why do you keep insinuating that I don't know history? KMOD Aug 2016 #159

Because you don't. blm Aug 2016 #160

No. KMOD Aug 2016 #161

If Kerry had not investigated whether there was illegal gun running karynnj Aug 2016 #136

I remember. amandabeech Aug 2016 #158

I believe he's our best or one of best secretarys of state also. George Eliot Aug 2016 #149

John Lewis GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #90

I agree, and have said so many times in this thread. KMOD Aug 2016 #97

Maybe but not definitely: Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, John Kerry, etc. DemocraticWing Aug 2016 #121

There are so many things to love about this thread and how it's turned out. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #125

Thanks. KMOD Aug 2016 #127

President Obama and John Kerry for two karynnj Aug 2016 #130

Don't blame me for responding truthfully please George Eliot Aug 2016 #143

The thread title said accomplished, not attempted to.... bettyellen Aug 2016 #145

+ KMOD Aug 2016 #146

Those were "accomplishments" - perhaps you didn't read? George Eliot Aug 2016 #147

What are the relevant and objective measures on which the query is predicated? LanternWaste Aug 2016 #162