2016 Postmortem

socialist_n_TN

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4. And this attitude is one of the reasons that HRC is having some problems..........

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:39 AM

Sep 2016

pulling away from Trump in spite of his outrageous comments and positions.

I read two or three LOOONG posts here yesterday about how Bernie is not doing enough or asking "Where is Bernie?" So Bernie gives some honest advice and HRC supporters go "We don't need your advice".

Well which is it? Do you need Bernie supporters to win or not? And if you do need them, then you should at least pay attention to what Sanders has to say. If you don't need them, then you can ignore any advice he might have.

There is one thing about Bernie that you can count on. He WILL say what he thinks for the most part. And what he thinks proved to be pretty popular during the primaries. Democrats and HRC can ignore it if they want, but they shouldn't complain if they catch grief when they DO ignore Bernie's advice.

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Bernie gives Hillary some good advice. [View all] kstewart33 Sep 2016 OP

Yes, get back to the issues! vlyons Sep 2016 #1

Hillary gave an issues-based speech yesterday. Did you watch it? No, because the media pnwmom Sep 2016 #40

Vylons -- send that message to the MEDIA, who are responsible for this cluster* Hekate Sep 2016 #61

Amen to that!!! Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #77

She doesn't get to ask the questions, you know frazzled Sep 2016 #2

And this attitude is one of the reasons that HRC is having some problems.......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2016 #4

I posted the 'Where is Bernie Sanders' thread. kstewart33 Sep 2016 #6

Millennials don't vote remember? Arazi Sep 2016 #26

Let's get a few things straight frazzled Sep 2016 #10

Hmmmm.... AlbertCat Sep 2016 #14

To reply to your replies frazzled Sep 2016 #20

And.... AlbertCat Sep 2016 #24

When the criticism is based on ignorance or lies- which this was, it's not helpful at all. bettyellen Sep 2016 #71

It's a dig at her campaigning and I doubt he's self aware enough to know it.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #74

Hillary Clinton Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #33

has no control over what the media reports. She has to play the hand she is dealt. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #37

PR departments still require the cooperation of the media. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #39

This is true, but the media has an obligation to report the news and call out lies Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #79

"Maybe" she talks policy? It seems neither you or Sanders have been following along.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #47

And that is why his statement comes off as paternalistic claptrap. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #51

Goodness, AlbertCat. "Hubris," "sycophants," "Hillary groupies"? Such language. Hekate Sep 2016 #62

So, got it. You don't need Sanders' supporters......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2016 #21

Nope, but he should do his homework and not speak of deficiencies that do not exist. bettyellen Sep 2016 #48

Yep. deathrind Sep 2016 #27

Pleases stop... Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #34

Delivery for socialiat_n_TN, your straw man has arrived. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #28

So, sounds like "Sit down and shut the fuck up" to me........... socialist_n_TN Sep 2016 #30

It is insulting to call Hillary supporters right-wing Democrats of which there is no such thing. nt. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #35

I doubt the real FDR would recognize this century's Democratic Party, regardless Hekate Sep 2016 #63

Jane Harmon? ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #67

We're not asking Bernie for campaign advice. We're asking Bernie to CAMPAIGN FOR HILLARY. pnwmom Sep 2016 #41

"Donald, why did you train your staff to not allow Black people to buy housing in your condos?" KeepItReal Sep 2016 #3

And why oh why oh why oh why isn't this kind of information in the news all the time Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #80

If He's So Smart About Strategy Me. Sep 2016 #5

Right! George II Sep 2016 #8

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The primary is over. Get on board for working together please. Bernie bashing is FailureToCommunicate Sep 2016 #11

Hillary bashing is also so yesterday. Thanks for the reminder. Hekate Sep 2016 #69

not helpful... dhill926 Sep 2016 #12

Why isn't he the nominee? AlbertCat Sep 2016 #15

Or his lack of good and workable economic and social policies.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #46

Some of us read the details, and were deeply dosappointed. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #50

You missed the workable part? Well you're in good company- an actual minority too. bettyellen Sep 2016 #52

You missed the workable part? AlbertCat Sep 2016 #53

NASA worked out plans for many years to prepare. See the difference? Many noticed. bettyellen Sep 2016 #55

NASA worked out plans for many years to prepare. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #57

Plans were thin and required millions going to protest congress bettyellen Sep 2016 #58

Ding ding ding. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #29

What is Tyrion Lannister protesting? (n/) SMC22307 Sep 2016 #70

Very good advice. Trump is dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to issues. Arkansas Granny Sep 2016 #7

Hillary gave an issue based speech yesterday. She does this frequently. The problem isn't pnwmom Sep 2016 #42

Bernie does a good job mansplaining this to Hillary mwrguy Sep 2016 #13

Bernie does a good job mansplaining this to Hillary AlbertCat Sep 2016 #18

It wasn't a helpful suggestion. Almost all of her speeches are policy based. She gave one yesterday. pnwmom Sep 2016 #43

Almost all of her speeches are policy based. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #44

She WAS talking about "real issues" AND her plans for addressing them. pnwmom Sep 2016 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Sep 2016 #76

Couldn't agree more. As a long-time feminist, it's discouraging to see the sexism meme so JudyM Sep 2016 #78

Indeed otohara Sep 2016 #25

The media thinks likability is the only issue.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #16

what issues?? dicksmc3 Sep 2016 #17

If the debate is about real issues Trump is screwed, he does not understand the issues krawhitham Sep 2016 #19

Trump Might Not Understand The Issues And When He Tries To Talk Issues - He Lies..... global1 Sep 2016 #23

It's all about taking control of the fickle public's (and MSM's) attention andym Sep 2016 #22

I agree. Clinton has been clear on issues and gets little spooky3 Sep 2016 #31

Then she and her 'team' need to find a way to GET media coverage. pangaia Sep 2016 #54

what would you propose? spooky3 Sep 2016 #59

I have no idea. I am terrible at PR. pangaia Sep 2016 #60

The debased broadcast/cable "news" media exists for infotainment and ratings, not truth. ... Hekate Sep 2016 #68

I love this comment! betsuni Sep 2016 #72

Thank you, betsuni. Spread the good word! Hekate Sep 2016 #73

I am not sure of what, if anything, you are accusing me. pangaia Sep 2016 #75

I am not accusing *you* of anything at all. I was both replying to you & riffing on the themes... Hekate Sep 2016 #81

That didn't work for any of the GOP candidates, did it? A bully needs to be put in their place. grossproffit Sep 2016 #32

Let's not forget that Bernie got played by Donald just like everyone else. R B Garr Sep 2016 #36

I actually agree with him. This can't become a personality contest. AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #38

Why is Bernie is reinforcing the Trump lie that Hillary doesn't discuss the issues? SunSeeker Sep 2016 #49

THIS. bettyellen Sep 2016 #56

+1 Hekate Sep 2016 #66

Thank you, Bernie! egduj Sep 2016 #64

Bernie needs to pick up the phone and not allow himself to be baited by the media. Howard Dean.... Hekate Sep 2016 #65