2016 Postmortem

AlbertCat

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50. Some of us read the details, and were deeply dosappointed.

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:54 AM

Sep 2016

Even tho'....

"58% favor replacing the ACA with federally funded healthcare system"
http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

and

"Over 60% of Americans back tuition-free college"
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/01/over-60-of-americans-back-tuition-free-college-survey-says.html

not to mention

"Americans Still Say Upper-Income Pay Too Little in Taxes"
http://www.gallup.com/poll/190775/americans-say-upper-income-pay-little-taxes.aspx

Some of y'all might be in the minority.

Well, best just to keep plodding along with the corporatists.

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Bernie gives Hillary some good advice. [View all] kstewart33 Sep 2016 OP

Yes, get back to the issues! vlyons Sep 2016 #1

Hillary gave an issues-based speech yesterday. Did you watch it? No, because the media pnwmom Sep 2016 #40

Vylons -- send that message to the MEDIA, who are responsible for this cluster* Hekate Sep 2016 #61

Amen to that!!! Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #77

She doesn't get to ask the questions, you know frazzled Sep 2016 #2

And this attitude is one of the reasons that HRC is having some problems.......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2016 #4

I posted the 'Where is Bernie Sanders' thread. kstewart33 Sep 2016 #6

Millennials don't vote remember? Arazi Sep 2016 #26

Let's get a few things straight frazzled Sep 2016 #10

Hmmmm.... AlbertCat Sep 2016 #14

To reply to your replies frazzled Sep 2016 #20

And.... AlbertCat Sep 2016 #24

When the criticism is based on ignorance or lies- which this was, it's not helpful at all. bettyellen Sep 2016 #71

It's a dig at her campaigning and I doubt he's self aware enough to know it.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #74

Hillary Clinton Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #33

has no control over what the media reports. She has to play the hand she is dealt. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #37

PR departments still require the cooperation of the media. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #39

This is true, but the media has an obligation to report the news and call out lies Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #79

"Maybe" she talks policy? It seems neither you or Sanders have been following along.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #47

And that is why his statement comes off as paternalistic claptrap. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #51

Goodness, AlbertCat. "Hubris," "sycophants," "Hillary groupies"? Such language. Hekate Sep 2016 #62

So, got it. You don't need Sanders' supporters......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2016 #21

Nope, but he should do his homework and not speak of deficiencies that do not exist. bettyellen Sep 2016 #48

Yep. deathrind Sep 2016 #27

Pleases stop... Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #34

Delivery for socialiat_n_TN, your straw man has arrived. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #28

So, sounds like "Sit down and shut the fuck up" to me........... socialist_n_TN Sep 2016 #30

It is insulting to call Hillary supporters right-wing Democrats of which there is no such thing. nt. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #35

I doubt the real FDR would recognize this century's Democratic Party, regardless Hekate Sep 2016 #63

Jane Harmon? ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #67

We're not asking Bernie for campaign advice. We're asking Bernie to CAMPAIGN FOR HILLARY. pnwmom Sep 2016 #41

"Donald, why did you train your staff to not allow Black people to buy housing in your condos?" KeepItReal Sep 2016 #3

And why oh why oh why oh why isn't this kind of information in the news all the time Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #80

If He's So Smart About Strategy Me. Sep 2016 #5

Right! George II Sep 2016 #8

Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #9

The primary is over. Get on board for working together please. Bernie bashing is FailureToCommunicate Sep 2016 #11

Hillary bashing is also so yesterday. Thanks for the reminder. Hekate Sep 2016 #69

not helpful... dhill926 Sep 2016 #12

Why isn't he the nominee? AlbertCat Sep 2016 #15

Or his lack of good and workable economic and social policies.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #46

Some of us read the details, and were deeply dosappointed. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #50

You missed the workable part? Well you're in good company- an actual minority too. bettyellen Sep 2016 #52

You missed the workable part? AlbertCat Sep 2016 #53

NASA worked out plans for many years to prepare. See the difference? Many noticed. bettyellen Sep 2016 #55

NASA worked out plans for many years to prepare. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #57

Plans were thin and required millions going to protest congress bettyellen Sep 2016 #58

Ding ding ding. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #29

What is Tyrion Lannister protesting? (n/) SMC22307 Sep 2016 #70

Very good advice. Trump is dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to issues. Arkansas Granny Sep 2016 #7

Hillary gave an issue based speech yesterday. She does this frequently. The problem isn't pnwmom Sep 2016 #42

Bernie does a good job mansplaining this to Hillary mwrguy Sep 2016 #13

Bernie does a good job mansplaining this to Hillary AlbertCat Sep 2016 #18

It wasn't a helpful suggestion. Almost all of her speeches are policy based. She gave one yesterday. pnwmom Sep 2016 #43

Almost all of her speeches are policy based. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #44

She WAS talking about "real issues" AND her plans for addressing them. pnwmom Sep 2016 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Sep 2016 #76

Couldn't agree more. As a long-time feminist, it's discouraging to see the sexism meme so JudyM Sep 2016 #78

Indeed otohara Sep 2016 #25

The media thinks likability is the only issue.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #16

what issues?? dicksmc3 Sep 2016 #17

If the debate is about real issues Trump is screwed, he does not understand the issues krawhitham Sep 2016 #19

Trump Might Not Understand The Issues And When He Tries To Talk Issues - He Lies..... global1 Sep 2016 #23

It's all about taking control of the fickle public's (and MSM's) attention andym Sep 2016 #22

I agree. Clinton has been clear on issues and gets little spooky3 Sep 2016 #31

Then she and her 'team' need to find a way to GET media coverage. pangaia Sep 2016 #54

what would you propose? spooky3 Sep 2016 #59

I have no idea. I am terrible at PR. pangaia Sep 2016 #60

The debased broadcast/cable "news" media exists for infotainment and ratings, not truth. ... Hekate Sep 2016 #68

I love this comment! betsuni Sep 2016 #72

Thank you, betsuni. Spread the good word! Hekate Sep 2016 #73

I am not sure of what, if anything, you are accusing me. pangaia Sep 2016 #75

I am not accusing *you* of anything at all. I was both replying to you & riffing on the themes... Hekate Sep 2016 #81

That didn't work for any of the GOP candidates, did it? A bully needs to be put in their place. grossproffit Sep 2016 #32

Let's not forget that Bernie got played by Donald just like everyone else. R B Garr Sep 2016 #36

I actually agree with him. This can't become a personality contest. AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #38

Why is Bernie is reinforcing the Trump lie that Hillary doesn't discuss the issues? SunSeeker Sep 2016 #49

THIS. bettyellen Sep 2016 #56

+1 Hekate Sep 2016 #66

Thank you, Bernie! egduj Sep 2016 #64

Bernie needs to pick up the phone and not allow himself to be baited by the media. Howard Dean.... Hekate Sep 2016 #65