2016 Postmortem

TomJulie

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78. I Have to Agree, Recursion...

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:14 PM

Oct 2016

Fortunately, the VP debates are only a blimp and won't matter to undecideds.

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I'm sorry, but Pence is winning this debate [View all] Recursion Oct 2016 OP

Pretty much. CentralMass Oct 2016 #1

Nah. wisteria Oct 2016 #88

You must be watching something else. Kaine keeps him on the defensive by demanding . . . brush Oct 2016 #89

I am a Democrat and like Kaine but it seemed to me CentralMass Oct 2016 #96

Pence is more polished than Trump but he can't defend his outrageous statements brush Oct 2016 #100

Yes but t I don't think he really had to. He used his time well. CentralMass Oct 2016 #104

The media was going to say he won Thrill Oct 2016 #2

Give the devil his due. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #3

I know this is not a popular thought but dhol82 Oct 2016 #4

Sure you are. I don't see that. wisteria Oct 2016 #47

Not so with me. ImaPolitico Oct 2016 #73

I agree pintobean Oct 2016 #94

Kind of like the Al Gore constant and frantic sighing and wheezing. NBachers Oct 2016 #112

He fucking looks lobotomized as he lied his way through the debate. synergie Oct 2016 #105

legit dangerous? jcgoldie Oct 2016 #5

No. BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #6

Whoever told Kaine to be like Trump made a mistake... TCJ70 Oct 2016 #7

What? Kaine is making sense and on message. How the hell is that like Trump? wisteria Oct 2016 #57

I'm talking more in terms of demeanor... TCJ70 Oct 2016 #62

Still, consider that Cain's job is to defend Clinton. wisteria Oct 2016 #93

His demeanour was not like Trump's. Did you watch either debate? What nonsense! synergie Oct 2016 #106

Kaine enid602 Oct 2016 #119

No one cares about a vice presidential debate Skoods Oct 2016 #8

Completely disagree mcar Oct 2016 #9

Agree. wisteria Oct 2016 #64

Pence is the whitest person in America and racist in his own oily, smarmy way adigal Oct 2016 #127

This is not a presidential debate...the goals are different NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #10

Agree. wisteria Oct 2016 #69

They are each getting some shots in...but Pence can't defend Trumps words...he pivots very well Cakes488 Oct 2016 #11

I think Kaine is kicking ass. n/t phylny Oct 2016 #12

Agreed Cosmocat Oct 2016 #21

Yup nt OhZone Oct 2016 #56

I agree. JDC Oct 2016 #86

I think so too. femmocrat Oct 2016 #13

Ridiculous! MoonRiver Oct 2016 #14

Pretty much a push as far as I can see EricMaundry Oct 2016 #15

Disagree that Pence is winning lillypaddle Oct 2016 #16

Here's a suggestion: Don't watch it. It's the freaking Veep debate. It's Tuesday at 8:53 (Central). truthisfreedom Oct 2016 #17

I don't think that. madaboutharry Oct 2016 #18

The debate is horribly moderated ArcticFox Oct 2016 #19

On the contrary�.. ImaPolitico Oct 2016 #90

Yeah winning being a smug lying sack of shit Beaverhausen Oct 2016 #20

Unless there's one memorable moment it won't matter in the least DefenseLawyer Oct 2016 #22

Ferraro calling Bush on his mansplaining foreign policy. n/t sweetloukillbot Oct 2016 #32

Joe Biden adeptly and masterfully punking Paul "Thirsty" Ryan. NBachers Oct 2016 #115

Eh. DefenseLawyer Oct 2016 #118

"Malarkey!" greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #137

Bull. sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #23

We're apparently not listening to the same debate. I will concede pnwmom Oct 2016 #24

Nope. woolldog Oct 2016 #25

Naaaaah. Ptui!~ BootinUp Oct 2016 #26

Didn't I already see another thread of you saying this? Dem2 Oct 2016 #27

He rolls out RW talking points with compelling insincerity. ucrdem Oct 2016 #28

??????? MFM008 Oct 2016 #29

Well, he's a lot better than Donald (not a high bar) but I don't think he's winning. Avalux Oct 2016 #30

Kaine is CREAMING Pence -- Pence looks like a bumbling fool BigBearJohn Oct 2016 #31

I don't agree. Agschmid Oct 2016 #33

The record of the past 50 or so years of Republican politicians begs to differ TheKentuckian Oct 2016 #138

Totally agree....Kaine is horrible GumboYaYa Oct 2016 #34

I disagree. Kaine is whipping his ass! ecstatic Oct 2016 #35

Meh this a meaningless event and if anything it's a draw RonniePudding Oct 2016 #36

Kaine is doing fine Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #37

Pence is fillibustering Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #38

Absolutely disagree Bobbie Jo Oct 2016 #39

I'll Agree That... WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #40

I'll give this to Kain so far NobodyHere Oct 2016 #41

Pence looks like the homophobic robotic piece of shit that he is. Lint Head Oct 2016 #42

I think you're watching a different debate that I am. Island Blue Oct 2016 #43

ffs bigtree Oct 2016 #44

I disagree. Horrible??? What debate are you watching? wisteria Oct 2016 #45

I guess it depends on your critera Evergreen Emerald Oct 2016 #46

Maybe.. but just slightly. DCBob Oct 2016 #48

Nope... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #49

Uhm, Recursion was an ardent MOM supporter. Maybe stop fighting the primary? Arazi Oct 2016 #60

Yeah - I was over the top... my apology... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #95

Kaine seems too exciteable Osakagreg Oct 2016 #50

Agreed, but I don't think it's a beatdown. reflection Oct 2016 #51

I'm afraid I have to agree BainsBane Oct 2016 #52

Yeah. Hoping so. (nt) Recursion Oct 2016 #99

I agree, this is horrible. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #53

Kaine is hitting Trump only Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #54

what issue did Pence 'handle better?' bigtree Oct 2016 #58

Not judging by this ongoing HuffPo commentary. Kaine is calling Pence out on every lie misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #55

I keep thinking the same. herding cats Oct 2016 #67

Pence has a shitty history of being a shitty person. The Public knows that & Pence misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #71

Yes, we really do DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #125

You think he's driving his points home better than Kaine? herding cats Oct 2016 #59

Is this the RU underground all of a sudden? nt OhZone Oct 2016 #61

That's what's so great about "us" the repub's often can't be objective...just blind defense Cakes488 Oct 2016 #80

Is it objectivity or a desire to punish ourselves? OhZone Oct 2016 #87

There is no reason to punish ourselves Osakagreg Oct 2016 #108

Calling someone a Republican just because they have to have a different opinion than you... Bucky Oct 2016 #123

No, it's not that exactly. OhZone Oct 2016 #141

You could have said that. Instead you accused the poster of being Republican. Bucky Oct 2016 #142

Agreed. I know the mindset here will disagree.. Arazi Oct 2016 #63

Kaine is doing great... Satch59 Oct 2016 #65

This is the best debate ever!!! blue cat Oct 2016 #66

Disagree FUAC Oct 2016 #77

Are you serious? Controlled and smoother? He looked like a LYING PSYCHOPATH. MADem Oct 2016 #130

OMG! To be a fly on the wall in your house. Really cute post. grossproffit Oct 2016 #79

Disagree PatSeg Oct 2016 #68

Pence is lying like crazy. Like crazy! bmstee01 Oct 2016 #70

Kaine is coming off as too caffeinated -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2016 #72

I would rather have a caffeinated VP Island Blue Oct 2016 #84

Gov Pence is NOT winning the debate. PAMod Oct 2016 #74

Kaine making Pence squirm MichDem10 Oct 2016 #75

Pence getting way more time to talk Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #76

I Have to Agree, Recursion... TomJulie Oct 2016 #78

VP debates don't determine elections. If so, Dukakis would have won in muntrv Oct 2016 #81

I am glad there is only going to be one... 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #82

I knew this debate would have more substance. retrowire Oct 2016 #83

I think Pence is doing an OK job, but all his interruptions and lies are going to bite him napi21 Oct 2016 #85

Yep. Whether he's gish galloping or not he's winning. PeteSelman Oct 2016 #91

You don't win when you make shit up and lie, and it's provable. MADem Oct 2016 #132

Maybe you should drink something STRONG. Pathwalker Oct 2016 #92

Couldn't disagree more. Kaine is doing fine. nt Cognitive_Resonance Oct 2016 #97

At the time OP was posted, and from a true undecided's view, I agree. But Kaine came on strong. Hoyt Oct 2016 #98

I think Kaine appealed strongly to women when he commented about trusting women to make Greywing Oct 2016 #101

I agree. The pundits are saying he interrupted too much, and he probably did. But, he Hoyt Oct 2016 #122

Kaine won the second half Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #102

I think Kaine did great. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #103

Huh? Charlotte Little Oct 2016 #107

Kaine did great and won, IMO. DawgHouse Oct 2016 #109

Too bad no VP debate has EVER mattered budkin Oct 2016 #110

Kaine did fine. Pence tried to go rouge, thinking about his own future with the wisteria Oct 2016 #111

I'm sorry, Pence won't survive a fact check. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #113

Pence is ruling the debate?? ooky Oct 2016 #114

Reagan quote was brutal many a good man Oct 2016 #116

When you say "insulting" you suggest it was not true. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #124

I gasped at this and I'm surprised it got no mention after adigal Oct 2016 #128

I disagree Gothmog Oct 2016 #117

Please delete this thread BlueInPhilly Oct 2016 #120

Ha Ha ! It went well. Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2016 #121

Perhaps on style points but the goal was to help Hillary and weaken Trump. On that level Kaine won. pampango Oct 2016 #126

OK - I have not yet watched BlueMTexpat Oct 2016 #129

I'm sorry (no, I am not) -- but you are DEAD wrong. MADem Oct 2016 #131

Lets quit concentrading on the VP debate because... Joe941 Oct 2016 #133

Why was it "dangerous"? brooklynite Oct 2016 #134

Pence only won on being calm. He lied all the way. Kaine kept hitting w truth. Overseas Oct 2016 #135

It depends on whether or not you were paying attention to what was said. LAS14 Oct 2016 #136

Kaine won on content because... Joe941 Oct 2016 #139

There is a story trending that trump is upset... Joe941 Oct 2016 #140