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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
33. Assuming competence and intelligence from the FBI
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:43 AM
Oct 2016

I have no idea why that is standard practice, here or elsewhere.

I concede it's primarily in regard to true crime cases but every time I've looked into their work carefully it's astonishing how inept the organization can be. Someone with a flawed perspective is assigned as lead investigator of a specific case, and he hires assistants who share the incompetent focus. There are many related books and articles, or merely online research. It often reads like Keystone Cops or worse.

Recently I've been reading about the Colonial Parkway Murders from the late '80s. A lesbian couple were the first victims. The early local investigators and then the FBI assigned agents who had absolutely no clue about the gay community and didn't bother to study and learn. They made all types of ridiculous assumptions and it sidetracked the investigation in the early stages. The brother of one of those victims is still prominent online and he's convinced those early blunders ruined potential to solve the cases.

That's merely one example. The FBI may have famous initials but after so I'm convinced the overall caliber is far lower than conventional wisdom. A persistent theme from the books I've read is that the bureau lacks true specialists in given areas and mostly shoves agents into roles that sound close enough to their background and specialty. Square pegs here. Let's see, that leaves round pegs for the next case, whatever that may be. Sounds good.

After reading the Comey internal memo I recognized the bumbling uncertainty. More overmatched than schemer.

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Dershowitz thinks someone under investigation should turn over as much evidence as possible? PoliticAverse Oct 2016 #1
No they should of filed a motion to protect her content on that computer....... Cakes488 Oct 2016 #3
What he said is that her lawyers should've have said take it but for Weiner's emails only UMTerp01 Oct 2016 #4
How would she have known about Weiner's emails back then? LisaL Oct 2016 #11
I assume that they had separate email accounts karynnj Oct 2016 #38
Yea, I would say a strange statement from a lawyer. LisaL Oct 2016 #5
I do agree this should of been avoided another shot in foot and I saw Dershowitz last night too. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #2
STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM! Dershowitz is a REPUBLICAN! If the FBI had ASKED for that device, they RBInMaine Oct 2016 #10
I'm blaming HER LAWYERS. Dershowitz was making points on behalf Clinton..did you even see Cakes488 Oct 2016 #12
Yawn...have your fun while you can... Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #23
It wasn't a work-issued laptop - NONE of the emails were to or from Hillary or from her server. Avalux Oct 2016 #6
Oh goody goody. Blame the VICTIM. Are you working for Trump, Republicans, and right wing media? RBInMaine Oct 2016 #7
One has to wonder...this is a among many similary posts... Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #22
Huh semby2 Oct 2016 #8
How does one anticipate what should be turned over to law enforcement stopbush Oct 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #13
You are blaming the victim. Let's get away from the right wing talking points please. RBInMaine Oct 2016 #14
How is she a 'victim' here? nt B2G Oct 2016 #17
I'm making a point. The OP is blaming her instead of the highly trained FBI agents who could RBInMaine Oct 2016 #18
The OP does this all the time and is very concerned. Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #21
And what you do all the time is expect all of us to be sheep and have the same opinion UMTerp01 Oct 2016 #26
I support Democrats. You are not supposed to attack Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #37
How is she a victim exactly?!!! Nt UMTerp01 Oct 2016 #24
She told the FBI she had sent some emails to herself in order to print them NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #15
You are on to it jham123 Oct 2016 #35
I am shocked that they had a four plus year old computer exboyfil Oct 2016 #16
The NY FBI office has had it for a couple of months. DURHAM D Oct 2016 #19
The NY office has it because they are the ones investigating Weiner. They wouldn't have access... PoliticAverse Oct 2016 #29
Yes they would. nt DURHAM D Oct 2016 #34
More attacks... Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #20
Bullshit. Being in politics does not mean every device you own is subject to examination. randome Oct 2016 #25
It is if classified emails were forwarded to it UMTerp01 Oct 2016 #28
And there is ZERO information that classified or new emails were involved. pnwmom Oct 2016 #40
The FBI had to have seen these emails months ago mainstreetonce Oct 2016 #27
QUESTION: am I understanding this correctly - this supposed investigation aka fishing expedition is Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2016 #30
Yes, from what I understand. And yes the media keeps acting like info has been found already anneboleyn Oct 2016 #42
Do we know they're looking at anything on her laptop? Do we know anything? George II Oct 2016 #31
Most likely, it was. louis-t Oct 2016 #32
Assuming competence and intelligence from the FBI Awsi Dooger Oct 2016 #33
Witch hunts proceed slowly. If they don't find what they want here, they'll go over there & dig.... Hekate Oct 2016 #36
My understanding is that these emails were back-ups of Huma's that were pnwmom Oct 2016 #39
The FBI knew what Huma was doing using Yahoo to print emails since her April FBI intervew BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #41
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