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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: Not ready to make nice [View all]

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
25. short term leads to long term
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 04:36 AM
Nov 2016

Whatever progress we got , we got by making a series of little, small victories that added to a big one. Yes I know she does think long term, but part of that long term has to be establishing one thing: now GOP, you cannot keep doing an end run around the fact you LOST the White House, and because of that, you will not be able to expect getting the larger half of the loaf.

Part of the problem is the fact that Many on the "centre-right" side do not want to give the working/poor class a slice any more than the GOP does, and those are the people that expect to be the first listened to, even if, as DWS showed, their advice came very close to crashing us into the ditch! Hillary WANTS a strong Mid-Term 2018 as part of the long term strategy, and if she wants that, she will not follow the DWS/DLC recipe that has made us hemorrhage Senators, Governors, and Congresspeople. THAT, is long term.

It is one thing to trust Hillary, but not to the point where you do not make your expectations CLEAR, and not to the point where you enter the playing field expecting the other team to dominate at first. You purposefully demand more than what you can get, because that is exactly what the GOP did, and it got them enough power to hamper Obama.

Not ready to make nice [View all] DonCoquixote Nov 2016 OP
I hear you clearly, and that is all good and fine, but first we have to get her in still_one Nov 2016 #1
If we want... pat_k Nov 2016 #21
Sorry, but DonConquixote is very wrong. Our nation Hortensis Nov 2016 #29
with all due respect DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #31
In short, there can be no bipartisanship... pat_k Nov 2016 #34
It is not a left/moderate/right "divide." It's more like this: pat_k Nov 2016 #33
Hear, hear! Glamrock Nov 2016 #2
AMEN....n/t BlueCollar Nov 2016 #5
I have not wanted to make nice with them since the Impeachment of President Bill Clinton. William769 Nov 2016 #6
There can be no "bipartisanship" with right-wingnuts pat_k Nov 2016 #8
Trust. Hillary knows exactly what shes doing. She is more qualified bushisanidiot Nov 2016 #10
Well said. nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2016 #13
We've got to elect her... pat_k Nov 2016 #19
short term leads to long term DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #25
Agree! UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #14
Go nuclear in the Senate. They are beyond redemption. BSdetect Nov 2016 #16
Absolutely. Demonstrations of real strength... pat_k Nov 2016 #24
Playing nice to evil never works out MyNameGoesHere Nov 2016 #26
to the alt-right types, I agree. But a substantial portion, if not most of the GE Trump voters, ericson00 Nov 2016 #45
which means that when the "sensible people" DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #48
Nothing but complete and utter annihilation of the GOP as it's constituted right now will do Blaukraut Nov 2016 #46
Normally I would have hated to say that DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #49
Exactly! Let's not normalize them by reaching across the aisle. The GOP needs a total overhaul. Blaukraut Nov 2016 #50
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