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graham4anything

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13. I will agree with that but add

Reply to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:36 PM

Dec 2012

it is why if we pick off some republicans (like Charlie Crist) and they run as democrats(like Charlie in Florida running vs. Scott, Scott will not win and Charlie will

Remember, now the tea party people are in office, and cannot run as outsiders anymore.

YES, I agree that they will be entusiastic if they percieve a victory on issues, however, they have a finite number of voters, so that is what we need to offset.

and it's not so easy

That is why I specifically want all candidate in office not to go for another job at this time in our history. It was different in past, and maybe again in future, but now it is dangerous

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Democrats lost the Public Option and got drubbed in 2010 [View all] Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 OP

So let me make sure I get you right: we would have won 2010 if HCR had been *bigger* and cost more? Recursion Dec 2012 #1

Let me make sure I get you right: we lost 2010 because HCR was too progressive? Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #3

Yes Recursion Dec 2012 #7

I may or may not have time today to go back over figures Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #8

We also had idiots like "Ed" from his namesake show telling us NOT to vote. sellitman Dec 2012 #2

If the Medicare age is raised under Obama I guarantee the Republicans doc03 Dec 2012 #4

Good examples Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #5

They increase the Medicare age they do not need the republicans, the Democrats will drub them still_one Dec 2012 #6

This is the fuzziest math I ever read. 1 plus 1 = 6 according to that logic graham4anything Dec 2012 #9

Fuzziest math, eh? I think you showed one of the most superficial reads Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #10

we agree to disagree graham4anything Dec 2012 #11

I can agree to that Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #12

I will agree with that but add graham4anything Dec 2012 #13

Good points, good discussion. Thanks n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #14

The OP John2 Dec 2012 #15

That's not why we got drubbed in 2010. It's mostly because without Obama at the top of the ticket pnwmom Dec 2012 #16

Which is why we constantly need to keep electing more minorities/women in ALL elections graham4anything Dec 2012 #17

Democrats did exceedingly well in the 2006 mid term elections Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #18