2016 Postmortem

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5. Non-voters didn't care enough to oppose a white nationalist in 2016.

Fri Nov 18, 2016, 05:21 PM

Nov 2016

Why would they start caring?

Trump won by running up the score with WWC who completely lack empathy for POC. May not be white nationalists themselves, but the civil rights of people with darker skin is not a concern for them.

So, we have to figure out how to turn some of those people against Trump, but we're not going to be able to do so by referencing his racism. They don't care.

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the depressing reality of American politics: we need to win back a sizable number of votes [View all] geek tragedy Nov 2016 OP

I was with you until AirmensMom Nov 2016 #1

Excellent response. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #3

I read somewhere that AirmensMom Nov 2016 #8

Shocked and angry are understandable responses. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #11

I agree. AirmensMom Nov 2016 #17

Non-voters didn't care enough to oppose a white nationalist in 2016. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #5

I don't know. AirmensMom Nov 2016 #6

We're all trying to process it. It's disorienting, like we woke up on Mars. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #7

But they should respond to the monumental corruption that moonscape Nov 2016 #32

That's what I am thinking Ligyron Nov 2016 #47

But now we are up against relentless twisted fake news, disregard moonscape Nov 2016 #56

58% to 42% is not really a VAST majority hfojvt Nov 2016 #46

Trump added 300,000 white voters to Romney's total in Pennsylvania alone. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #50

but Obama 2012 beats Trump 2016 in Penn. hfojvt Nov 2016 #61

Most likely the Johnson voters are a mixed bunch. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #65

They'll turn against him soon enough if there's a recession, BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #33

White nationalists will never vote for us. Period. meow2u3 Nov 2016 #41

Trump won with approximately 24% of registered voters. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #2

100% of Trump supporters are willing to accept a government run by white nationalists geek tragedy Nov 2016 #4

Rural western and southern states also have outsized influence. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #9

very many white voters will oppose any kind of government stimulus/attempt to make geek tragedy Nov 2016 #12

And the Tea Party movement was a movement created by Dick Armey. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #15

So? atreides1 Nov 2016 #10

There's an absence of moral choice facing us. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #13

No absolutely not Ligyron Nov 2016 #48

ummm, no we are not a minority of voters. We are the majority. My goodness geek. boston bean Nov 2016 #14

no I'm not, I'm not saying we stop pursuing it when we govern. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #16

I don't buy it for a second. boston bean Nov 2016 #23

I grew up with these people, before I got the chance to escape. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #26

Those people do not vote for a woman on a democratic ticket. You want us to never run a woman again boston bean Nov 2016 #28

Absolutely we should run a woman again, and soon. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #30

If they don't give a shit about it. Why can't it be discussed by those who do boston bean Nov 2016 #34

We should appeal to their economic interests and find common ground there. Ligyron Nov 2016 #62

They will know soon or won't... These people have been voting against their interest my whole life. boston bean Nov 2016 #63

They are pretty stupid and not much fun to be around either. Ligyron Nov 2016 #64

I'd rather eat shit. Kill me now. No, seriously ... just fucking shoot me! NurseJackie Nov 2016 #18

I certainly can't do it. I can't relate to them as human beings. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #19

There are other voters to be had and other hearts and minds to change. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #20

all we can do is turn them against Trump on their issues. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #22

i disagree 0rganism Nov 2016 #21

well, that's kind of the point though, they're generally not people who have been geek tragedy Nov 2016 #24

agree that focusing on white nationalism as a point of opposition is a losing argument 0rganism Nov 2016 #25

they don't give a fuck about the environment either. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #27

"as long as there are deer to shoot and fish to catch" 0rganism Nov 2016 #29

That requires understanding science. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #31

You're ignoring his racist appointments require vocal opposition right now. bettyellen Nov 2016 #35

Of course we fight his racist appointments geek tragedy Nov 2016 #36

Not buying the "court white suprematists" crap- they also hate women and are backward. bettyellen Nov 2016 #37

A lot of it is provincialism-all they know is the town geek tragedy Nov 2016 #38

It's hatred due to willfull ignorance. We don't accept or pander to bigotry. bettyellen Nov 2016 #39

I am not saying we do 1990's style Bill Clinton stuff. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #40

Bill won 43% in a 1992 3-way; so far Hill has 47.9% in this year's 4-way. ucrdem Nov 2016 #43

Perot was a lot more of a factor than Gary Johnson was. He was a self-financing billionaire geek tragedy Nov 2016 #52

Trump will blame his failures on Hillary and Nancy Pelosi and skate ucrdem Nov 2016 #58

Trump got 2.9m in PA, Rmoney got around 2.6m geek tragedy Nov 2016 #59

Let's just say that if it turns out the "Russians" padded his numbers ucrdem Nov 2016 #60

Bill pandered to racists and sexists by promising to chip away at our rights? bettyellen Nov 2016 #44

Bill pandered to racist white people by trying to demonstrate to them that he'd geek tragedy Nov 2016 #51

What's with the fake Clinton quote? Are you proud of that? bettyellen Nov 2016 #54

What do you think the purpose of Sista Souljah and Ricky Ray Rector were? geek tragedy Nov 2016 #55

No, we just need to allow peopleto vote istead of preventing them from voting Coyotl Nov 2016 #42

THIS. bettyellen Nov 2016 #45

"we need to win back a sizable number of votes" workinclasszero Nov 2016 #49

I'm sure many Trump voters are not happy with his white nationalism andym Nov 2016 #53

What you say is true. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #57

I prefer to think of them as desperate rather than apologists LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #66

we tried helping them, with things like Medicaid expansion, and they voted to repeal it. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #67

Is that what we need to do Massa? Fuck that. You can grovel and beg Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2016 #68

What's your plan for winning elections going forward? geek tragedy Nov 2016 #69

Not being a fucking coward for one. That shit's real easy for your white ass to say. For Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2016 #70

Was Barack Obama a coward? geek tragedy Nov 2016 #71

He fucked himself and his legacy by trusting these people, number one. Two, you're lil' fucking OP Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2016 #73

It's a bought, rigged digital vote process, and partisan-controlled elections at state levels. ancianita Nov 2016 #72

49 million liquid diamond Nov 2016 #74