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Mc Mike

(9,123 posts)
57. Alternatively to your 'preserving confidence' idea
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 09:11 AM
Nov 2016

In this system we live under, the President who we elect is not the top power in the land, but is instead at the top of the servant class for the actual power groups. The top power is the 8 financial groups laid out in James Stewart Martin's book All Honorable Men. They are: Mellon, Morgan, DuPont, Rockefeller, Kuhn-Loeb, the Cleveland group, the Chicago group, and the Boston group.

Those people own all the mass media outlets in the country via the media ownership consolidation laid out by FAIR and Project Censored. They own all the opinion polling companies, which are chock full of repug connections. They're the actual owners behind the repug owned and controlled electronic voting machine companies.

We won in '06, '08, '12 because the virulent repug elements in that big 8 saw the extremely high level of revulsion Americans felt towards them -- a revulsion that their fascistic and corrupt repug party servant class created -- and knew they couldn't get away with a steal. So they settled for a shave in Dem support numbers. We win when our candidates can overcome the lying propagandic messages from the media controlled by the power groups, and those groups monitor actual public opinion and see 80-90% actual public displeasure with their repug party servants and goals.

The winning candidates staff up their administrations with appointees who represent the different members of the big 8's interests, represent the coalition of certain elements within that big 8 who backed the winner. The 8 aren't monolithic, they operate against each other, and each individual one of the big 8 has factions within them that disagree internally.

Occasionally, you'll see a cabinet level shake up in a presidential admin, where someone resigns or gets forced out. Li'l bush's Treasury Sec Paul O'Neill came from Alcoa (a Mellon man), was forced out and wrote a tell-all book about li'l bush. He was replaced by John Snow from the railway industry (a Rockefeller man). That was a loss for the Mellon faction, but a few weeks after O'Neill's last day, Tom Ridge was named as first Cabinet Level Sec of Homeland Security. Ridge came from the Mellon's hometown, and had run the Mellon's home state as gov.

Huey Long ran as a Depression-era populist, since his assassination he's been slammed as a dangerous proto-fascist demagogue. But in his stump speeches he regularly named Morgan, Mellon, and Rockefeller as the main enemies of the people who's votes he was trying to get. After he was murdered, a bunch of right wing liars tried to pin the assassination on 'FDR bumping off the competition'. But one of Huey's aides, Sidney Songy, made open claims that a group from Standard Oil (Rockefeller) was actually behind Long's murder.

Thanks for your post, big m. I enjoyed reading it.

I'm like you cilla4progress Nov 2016 #1
Question cilla4progress Nov 2016 #2
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Exit polls: 2016 compared to 2004 Coyotl Nov 2016 #58
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I feel that way about Greenwald now. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #18
If nothing else he says is accurate LibraLiz1973 Nov 2016 #4
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I am originally from Delaware County (Phila burbs) LibraLiz1973 Nov 2016 #6
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I'm in Montco PRETZEL Nov 2016 #29
They use a type of machine in PA that can't be audited -- no paper trail. n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #13
Exactly. The Wielding Truth Nov 2016 #14
How is this not seen as totally unacceptable by every citizen? Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #52
Same here. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #51
I don't ordinarily get into conspiracy theories, but, in light of the hacking that we know occurred Arkansas Granny Nov 2016 #8
Me neither... FrenchieCat Nov 2016 #10
so it occurred to me that all you would have to do jimlup Nov 2016 #11
Not sure about this if you look at the results. Hillary won the two biggest counties by about the... Bonn1997 Nov 2016 #15
I looked briefly jimlup Nov 2016 #27
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so you agree that it was hacked. I see you joined just prior to the election. KewlKat Nov 2016 #17
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Пожалуйста, объясните, пожалуйст phylny Nov 2016 #19
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I couldn't agree more with the conclusion! Now what can we do about it? KewlKat Nov 2016 #16
Some of those claims are questionable. Bonn1997 Nov 2016 #23
Old: Clumsy Rove-era election fraud New:Sophisticated and subtle Russian hacking Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #22
I got this vid link from bradblog, snark. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author bigmonkey Nov 2016 #30
Speaking of "main in the middle" attacks. Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #40
I remember that info about the SMARTech - GovTech operation, and Connell's 'accident'. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #42
But Hillary had e-mail...or something...wait...look over here! Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #43
Why manipulate the sheeple when you can manipulate the machines Mc Mike Nov 2016 #55
I thought Bev Harris turned out to be a crackpot. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #28
Being a crackpot does not equal being wrong about everything. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #32
Point well taken Lil Missy Nov 2016 #35
Nonsense ramapo Nov 2016 #26
Conspiracy theory is a dismissive term, and unworthy of the gravity of the situation. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #31
No, math is more factual than our opinions... compounded voter suppression sense 2006 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #34
1, "It is statistically suspicious that in every state...... he won it by right around one percent" uponit7771 Nov 2016 #33
So why did Hillary concede the race? closeupready Nov 2016 #36
She wanted to "preserve confidence in the system". bigmonkey Nov 2016 #37
Interesting theory, I appreciate it. You've reminded me that closeupready Nov 2016 #38
Thank you for this info Hekate Nov 2016 #45
Interesting.. thanks. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #47
Alternatively to your 'preserving confidence' idea Mc Mike Nov 2016 #57
Kick and Rec Hekate Nov 2016 #44
Why are we so fucking stupid to just sit back and take this? lonestarnot Nov 2016 #46
Republicans do this, I'm sure of it mountain grammy Nov 2016 #48
This article is pure nonsense. BzaDem Nov 2016 #49
greg palast interview from truth dig tomp Nov 2016 #50
It has been obvious from the get go.. pbmus Nov 2016 #53
I got that feeling when I was watching the election from 538. C Moon Nov 2016 #54
Rove taught all how to rig an election heaven05 Nov 2016 #56
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