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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: So I guess Clinton and the DNC contributed nothing to this loss. [View all]think
(11,641 posts)86. That comment was made in response to Obama's openness to cutting social security & other
social programs. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama's race.
Representative John Conyers was also upset with Obama's willingness to cut these programs.
In fact he was so pissed that he even threatened a massive march on the White House to keep the president from putting social security and medicare up for cuts:
Conyers Has Had It With Obama
Published July 28, 2011
Rep. John Conyers (D-Detroit) is fed up with both President Obama, in part because of his alleged willingness during debt ceiling negotiations to make entitlement cuts, and Congress, because of what he calls its inaction on job creation. The 24-term lawmaker on Wednesday called for a protest in front of the White House.
Weve got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the president of the United States. The Republicans, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor, did not call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. The president of the United States called for that, Conyers said at a news conference held by the Out of Poverty Caucus, which he co-chairs. And my response to him is to mass thousands of people in front of the White House to protest this, Conyers said.
Read more:
http://www.bet.com/news/politics/2011/07/28/conyers-has-had-it-with-obama.html
Published July 28, 2011
Rep. John Conyers (D-Detroit) is fed up with both President Obama, in part because of his alleged willingness during debt ceiling negotiations to make entitlement cuts, and Congress, because of what he calls its inaction on job creation. The 24-term lawmaker on Wednesday called for a protest in front of the White House.
Weve got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the president of the United States. The Republicans, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor, did not call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. The president of the United States called for that, Conyers said at a news conference held by the Out of Poverty Caucus, which he co-chairs. And my response to him is to mass thousands of people in front of the White House to protest this, Conyers said.
Read more:
http://www.bet.com/news/politics/2011/07/28/conyers-has-had-it-with-obama.html
Thankfully Obama did not pursue such foolishness.
Obama Wanted to Cut Social Security. Then Bernie Sanders Happened.
Zaid Jilani - June 2 2016, 1:36 p.m.
~Snip~
This was a far cry from Obamas position on the program in late 2012, when his administration argued for reducing Social Security benefits by recalculating the way cost of living adjustments are made.
President Obamas evolution on Social Security, from at one time being open to cuts to calling for an expansion of benefits is certainly welcome news, but not at all surprising, said Alex Lawson, the executive director of Social Security Works, a nonprofit group that advocates for protecting and expanding the program.
Lawsons organization has worked with lawmakers and other nonprofit organizations to oppose Obamas proposed Social Security cuts and shift the conversation towards expansion. By the summer of 2014, a small group of Democratic caucus senators, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders, started advocating for lifting Social Securitys payroll tax cap so wealthier people paid more into the system, and then increasing benefits to seniors. Polling by advocacy groups found broad support for expansion.
This idea became a central theme in Sanderss presidential campaign. In the speech announcing his candidacy, the senator said that instead of cutting Social Security, were going to expand Social Security benefits....
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/02/obama-wanted-to-cut-social-security-then-bernie-sanders-happened/
Zaid Jilani - June 2 2016, 1:36 p.m.
~Snip~
This was a far cry from Obamas position on the program in late 2012, when his administration argued for reducing Social Security benefits by recalculating the way cost of living adjustments are made.
President Obamas evolution on Social Security, from at one time being open to cuts to calling for an expansion of benefits is certainly welcome news, but not at all surprising, said Alex Lawson, the executive director of Social Security Works, a nonprofit group that advocates for protecting and expanding the program.
Lawsons organization has worked with lawmakers and other nonprofit organizations to oppose Obamas proposed Social Security cuts and shift the conversation towards expansion. By the summer of 2014, a small group of Democratic caucus senators, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders, started advocating for lifting Social Securitys payroll tax cap so wealthier people paid more into the system, and then increasing benefits to seniors. Polling by advocacy groups found broad support for expansion.
This idea became a central theme in Sanderss presidential campaign. In the speech announcing his candidacy, the senator said that instead of cutting Social Security, were going to expand Social Security benefits....
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/02/obama-wanted-to-cut-social-security-then-bernie-sanders-happened/
By cheating Bernie Sanders the DNC also cheated millions of Democrats who voted for Bernie. Those Democrats were not amused and many have left and many will never return because of what the DNC did. The DNC violated the trust of Democratic voters. The party suffers because of that.
Debbie Wasserman Schult'z blatant favoritism of Hillary hurt all the other Democratic contenders as well not just Bernie.
She is ultimately responsible for this entire fiasco at the DNC under her watch. Her actions were harmful to the party and millions of Democrats not just Bernie Sanders....
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"Complete bias by the DNC in the primaries, which alienated huge numbers of Sanders supporters."
mia
Nov 2016
#26
The DNC will support lifelong repigs who fought the Democratic Party tooth and nail up until..
Hassin Bin Sober
Nov 2016
#55
So he's not perfect with a D after his name. But he he is all about progress.
Hassin Bin Sober
Nov 2016
#74
I hope the DNC gained some insight, maybe, but I doubt it. And now we are stuck with this
RKP5637
Nov 2016
#106
Trump did manage to win an election regardless of almost everybody claiming he was going to lose.
LisaL
Nov 2016
#18
There was so much hacking going on, that the "stolen" idea doesn't seem so far fetched that it's
LisaL
Nov 2016
#14
You are absolutely correct, but you are talking to someone who is going from thread to thread
Squinch
Nov 2016
#27
The DNC rigged the primary against other Democrats too. O'Malley called out the short debate
think
Nov 2016
#36
The DNC made a new rule banning non DNC debates. Eichenwlad selectively chooses to omit
think
Nov 2016
#51
That comment was made in response to Obama's openness to cutting social security & other
think
Nov 2016
#86
First of all, that was in repsonse to Obama discussing cuts to Social Security.
white_wolf
Nov 2016
#96
I posted about Corporate owned people leading the minority in congress is more of the same things
onecaliberal
Nov 2016
#28
There is truth in all three of your listed causes, and there is nothing wrong with saying that.
Squinch
Nov 2016
#29
On another thread, I've come to the conclusion that we need younger candidates.
randome
Nov 2016
#31
Good point. Progressives tend to see things accurately but that doesn't count in politics, either.
randome
Nov 2016
#70
The fact that Hillary faced all those obstacles and still won the popular vote
lapucelle
Nov 2016
#48
"Sanders was unable to deliver his coalition, new young voters bought the right wing anti-Clinton"
NWCorona
Nov 2016
#87
This exactly, but I'd like to add one more thing: yes, the news media didn't cover it. But
Squinch
Nov 2016
#45
Then please, tell us why the Republicans control the White House, the Senate, the House, the vast
Trust Buster
Nov 2016
#37
11 days before the election Comey interfered with the election by sending a false flag
still_one
Nov 2016
#44
No we didn't. Blame the EC all you want, but we all knew that 270 was the real number to win.
Exilednight
Nov 2016
#111
Your whole premise is centered around a completely incorrect assumption based statement.
NCTraveler
Nov 2016
#59
If democratic leadership continues to delude themselves, they will continue to lose.
CrispyQ
Nov 2016
#61
WHY SUCH POLARIZED either/or thinking? Come on man - at the risk of making your head
Kashkakat v.2.0
Nov 2016
#66
HIllary Clinton won the popular vote by over 2 million (and counting). What exactly
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2016
#107