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mike_c

(36,281 posts)
30. I've read it...
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 07:21 PM
Nov 2016

...and if Eichenwald is to be believed then the best one can say is that NEITHER Senator Sanders nor Senator Clinton should have been the party's nominee, Sanders because Eichenwald believes he could not defeat Mr. Trump and Clinton because, well, she proved demonstrably that she could not beat Mr. Trump, at least not decisively. Eichenwald is so disaffected with American voters who supported Senator Sanders that he feverishly works to obscure the truth that Senator Clinton was the wrong candidate at the wrong time by wailing about Bernie-bros and conspiracy theories.

Sure, no one can say for certain that Senator Sanders would have defeated Trump, although I do believe he would have done so handily. But what we can say with absolute certainty is that Senator Clinton was the wrong candidate during an election when Americans desperately wanted to elect a populist, not an establishment insider.

Frankly, I also dispute some of the arguments Eichenwald offers, like his suggestion that the DNC played little role in the anointing of Clinton because it was somehow "her turn" to be president. I think that's rubbish. Note too that Senator Clinton immediately rewarded Wasserman-Schultz when she stepped down from the chair of the DNC amidst a scandal about its favoritism toward the Clinton campaign. Wasserman-Schultz is the biggest villain in this whole affair, IMO.

I don't accept the notion that Sanders "split the party...." mike_c Nov 2016 #1
You're welcomed to not accepting it.. JHan Nov 2016 #2
He lost the primary. He got over it. Some of his voters didn't. LisaL Nov 2016 #18
to be fair, the corrupt DNC chairperson had her thumb on the scale.... mike_c Nov 2016 #19
Why didn't Sanders move like Obama in 2008? Oh right, Obama prepared himself.. JHan Nov 2016 #22
yeah well, one thing we do know with certainty... mike_c Nov 2016 #24
Bingo! sfwriter Nov 2016 #29
I recommend you take a look at Kurt Eichenwald's post mortem in Newsweek emulatorloo Nov 2016 #28
I've read it... mike_c Nov 2016 #30
No, he's disaffected with BoB's. As you know most Bernie primary supporters aren't BoB's emulatorloo Nov 2016 #33
I think you really underestimate just how many/much people disliked Hillary, and it wasn't all from jmg257 Nov 2016 #3
Agreed, also sexism. JHan Nov 2016 #8
I didn't like Comey's stunts back in July or whenever and I didn't appreciate two weeks before.. JHan Nov 2016 #10
Agreed...he chose to inject himself is a great way to put it. jmg257 Nov 2016 #13
I agree on everything heaven05 Nov 2016 #4
In what way did the DNC favor Hillary? frazzled Nov 2016 #5
I agree with him on the basic facts but there was the appearance of favoritism.. JHan Nov 2016 #7
Can you explain what you mean by "appearance" frazzled Nov 2016 #9
I mostly gathered it from people's perception of it .. whether true or not.. JHan Nov 2016 #12
Yet all those things you mention have been debunked as provably false frazzled Nov 2016 #14
I agree ...no arguments from me. JHan Nov 2016 #15
Donna Brazile fed at least one debate question on Flint to Hillary. Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #11
Recommended. Very well written, and I agree with much of your analysis. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #6
thanks :) JHan Nov 2016 #17
Very thoughtful and well written........ suston96 Nov 2016 #16
Dude, his economics didn't add up for you. And I'm pretty sure Sanders JCanete Nov 2016 #20
I'm not a dude. JHan Nov 2016 #21
Sorry about the "dude" thing. I'm not questioning your motives, I'm saying that I think that JCanete Nov 2016 #23
Oh I think it's worth discussing though.. JHan Nov 2016 #27
Brazile's granted, minor bias towards a candidate hardly turned the primaries. It is simply JCanete Nov 2016 #35
Sanders is an alt-left whiner. radius777 Nov 2016 #25
JHan - thank you for the honest introspection Red Oak Nov 2016 #26
Thanks Red Oak :) JHan Nov 2016 #31
Those were my reservations as well (though whiner is a bit cruel ;) ) JHan Nov 2016 #32
You said... ms liberty Nov 2016 #34
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