2016 Postmortem

NBachers

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29. What is your motivation in making such a blatantly false and ignorant statement?

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:48 AM

Dec 2016

https://hillaryspeeches.com/speech-archive/2016-2/

PENNSYLVANIA

April 1, 2016 Newtown, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 1, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 6, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 6, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 7, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 7, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 8, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 10, 2016 Villanova, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 13, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 13, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 20, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 20, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 20, 2016 Horsham, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 20, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 21, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 22, 2016 Reading, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 23, 2016 Swarthmore, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 23, 2016 Ambler, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 24, 2016 Wynnewood, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 24, 2016 Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 25, 2016 Youngwood, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 26, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Primary Night Event

June 14, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

July 8, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania African Methodist Episcopal Church Quadrennial Session

July 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 1

July 26, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 2

July 27, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 3

July 28, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 4

July 29, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally

July 29, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

July 30, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Manufacturing Event

July 30, 2016 Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 15, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 16, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Event

August 30, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 30, 2016 Lancaster, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 31, 2016 Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 7, 2016 Carlisle, Pennsylvania Women for Hillary Organizing Event

September 7, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Phone Bank

September 8, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Phone Bank Kickoff

September 9, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 9, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 13, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 19, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 24, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Kickoff

September 28, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally

September 28, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rally

October 4, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

October 6, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rally

October 7, 2016 Bristol, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Event

October 8, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Rally

October 8, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally

October 14, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Pitt Campus Organizing Event

October 18, 2016 Blue Bell, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

October 21, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Rally

October 21, 2016 Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania Rally

October 22, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote Rally

October 22, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote Rally

October 23, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Women Vote Organizing Event

October 23, 2016 Phoenixville, Pennsylvania Women Vote Organizing Event

October 23, 2016 Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

October 26, 2016 Allentown, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 26, 2016 Newtown, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 26, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 27, 2016 Gladwyne, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

October 28, 2016 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 28, 2016 Duncansville, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 28, 2016 Reading, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

MICHIGAN

January 12, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Fundraiser

February 7, 2016 Flint, Michigan Community Meeting

February 11, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

February 12, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Fundraiser

March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Canvass Kickoff

March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Pre-Debate Reception

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Services

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Service

March 6, 2016 Royal Oak, Michigan LGBT Organizing Event

March 6, 2016 East Pointe, Michigan Grassroots Organizing Event

March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Get Out the Vote

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Get Out the Vote

March 6, 2016 Southfield, Michigan Women’s Economic Forum

March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Democratic Debate (CNN)

March 7, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

Detroit, Michigan Democratic Town Hall (Fox News)

March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Women for Hillary

March 7, 2016 East Lansing, Michigan Organizing Event

March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan College Affordablity Round Table

March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event

March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Get Out the Vote

May 1, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

May 1, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Detroit NAACP Annual Fight For Freedom Fund Dinner

May 23, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Service Employees International Union Quadrennial International Convention

August 5, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event

August 11, 2016 Warren, Michigan Speech – Plan to Help Working Families

September 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Metro-Detroit Labor Day Parade

September 13, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally

September 22, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Women for Hillary Event

September 22, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Students for Hillary Event

September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Media Availability

September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Phone Bank Kickoff

September 27, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Voter Protection Roundtable

September 27, 2016 Livonia, Michigan Phone Bank

September 27, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Women to Women Event

September 28, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Moms for Hillary Roundtable

September 28, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Education Roundtable

October 3, 2016 Saginaw, Michigan Rally

October 3, 2016 Flint, Michigan Rally

October 4, 2016 Haverford, Pennsylvania Conversation on Families

October 6, 2016 Dearborn, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Rally

October 18, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Economic Speech

October 29, 2016 Muskegon, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 29, 2016 Battle Creek, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 30, 2016 Taylor, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 30, 2016 Warren, Michigan Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights Rally

WISCONSIN

February 11, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Democratic Debate (PBS

February 12, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Fundraiser

March 24, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

March 24, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

March 24, 2016 Waukesha, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

March 28, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event

March 29, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Community Forum on Gun Violence

March 29, 2016 LaCrosse, Wisconsin Organizing Event

March 29, 2016 Green Bay, Wisconsin Organizing Event

April 1, 2016 Appleton, Wisconsin Organizing Event

April 2, 2016 Eau Claire, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

April 2, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Organizing Event

April 2, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s 2016 Founders Day Gala

April 4, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event

August 5, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event

September 29, 2016 Kenosha, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

September 30, 2016 Green Bay, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 5, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Rally

October 7, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 7, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 8, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 25, 2016 Stevens Point, Wisconsin Early Vote Rally

October 25, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Early Vote Rally

October 27, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Fundraiser

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Yes, Millennials also cost us the election. [View all] JHan Dec 2016 OP

Mook loved his data more than, say, actual voters. RelativelyJones Dec 2016 #1

She did show up in PA. LisaL Dec 2016 #3

Yes, but there is more to the state than just Philly RelativelyJones Dec 2016 #31

See this post BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #37

She showed up in Michigan. LisaM Dec 2016 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #80

Apparently you did not read this post spooky3 Dec 2016 #83

What is your motivation in making such a blatantly false and ignorant statement? NBachers Dec 2016 #29

Wow! Thank you. Bookmarking to use the next spooky3 Dec 2016 #33

I stand corrected on PA RelativelyJones Dec 2016 #36

Did you look at the post you are responding to? BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #40

Why are you so aggressive? RelativelyJones Dec 2016 #41

The issue is the persistent argument BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #46

I agree. The 50 state strategy should never have been dropped. RelativelyJones Dec 2016 #48

Exactly! BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #51

Yep. It's something I've noticed - I have no data to back it up- but .. JHan Dec 2016 #54

The "data" are the actual results of what happens BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #61

We have to figure out how to stop repug vote suppression in all its forms brush Dec 2016 #89

Don't know if you saw this: ... JHan Dec 2016 #102

Thanks for the links. God! They're even bragging about it. brush Dec 2016 #105

Those are speeches by surrogates and Hillary exboyfil Dec 2016 #106

plus 1 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #109

Then what is your view on why she did so poorly in center Philly RelativelyJones Dec 2016 #123

If you think Pubbies don't know how to rig the vote MaeScott Dec 2016 #126

Nice essay... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #2

Agree...Good Essay..but? busterbrown Dec 2016 #6

Really would like to hear from the Millennials busterbrown Dec 2016 #4

My Experience otohara Dec 2016 #117

A razor thin loss when we should have beaten the con man by 20 points Dems to Win Dec 2016 #5

Thats what you got? "The Wife busterbrown Dec 2016 #7

Are you kidding me? Dems to Win Dec 2016 #12

She was Senator of New York, what impact did she have in the Rust Belt as Senator of NY.. JHan Dec 2016 #14

Oh I forgot... Hillary Care.. busterbrown Dec 2016 #16

Exactly! We can't have it both ways... JHan Dec 2016 #21

Hillary Never, Ever tried to get Single Payer Health Care Dems to Win Dec 2016 #23

Got Me...Gimme a break. busterbrown Dec 2016 #26

"Managed competition" was the founding father of Obamacare... JHan Dec 2016 #28

When Clinton was elected, we all thought we would get Universal Health Care in the US Dems to Win Dec 2016 #38

So essentially... JHan Dec 2016 #47

Where exactly? jman0war Dec 2016 #62

The Netherlands. .. JHan Dec 2016 #66

Netherlands yes, France No jman0war Dec 2016 #119

The link I shared explained it.. JHan Dec 2016 #120

Please provide a link to back up your 1993 assertion. spooky3 Dec 2016 #81

link Dems to Win Dec 2016 #97

Manufacturing jobs were disappearing since the 70's ,are we gonna give the Reagan era a pass? JHan Dec 2016 #10

You might not blame Hillary for Bill signing NAFTA, but many Ohio voters did Dems to Win Dec 2016 #13

And it is a silly criticism. Period. JHan Dec 2016 #15

It amazes that someone who is concerned with.. busterbrown Dec 2016 #18

Not silly Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #19

So Hillary signed NAFTA and is responsible for jobs disappearing? JHan Dec 2016 #22

If we don't correctly diagnose why jobs are disappearing we won't make people's lives better.. JHan Dec 2016 #24

Democrats won't win until they understand how bad trade deals and uncontrolled immigration Dems to Win Dec 2016 #34

Trade deals cost us jobs BUT.... JHan Dec 2016 #56

That generation will hopefully learn frazzled Dec 2016 #8

I was part of that generation as well. busterbrown Dec 2016 #25

But I have news for you frazzled Dec 2016 #32

And now your generation voted for Trump NobodyHere Dec 2016 #113

More blame game posts! retrowire Dec 2016 #9

Yes I can do it, I'm a millennial, I get a pass :) JHan Dec 2016 #11

I'm 28. retrowire Dec 2016 #27

So much was at stake this time around, that's hard to get over.. JHan Dec 2016 #30

Well when i see post Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #17

Were past the productive argument. busterbrown Dec 2016 #20

Agree! check077 Dec 2016 #118

There's a few of them this morning ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #93

Michigan Millenial here BeardofJGarfield Dec 2016 #35

Great post and thanks for sharing... it mirrors what I went through.. JHan Dec 2016 #42

And one other thing I meant to mention BeardofJGarfield Dec 2016 #44

Yep. And it's awful online... JHan Dec 2016 #45

Hm, would you explain/rephrase what you wrote? JudyM Dec 2016 #74

missed this.. JHan Dec 2016 #121

I get you. It's the guy who responded to you that I didn't fully understand... evolution??? JudyM Dec 2016 #122

"the math was on her side , the votes were on her side So I don't want to hear that shit" Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #39

It should surprise no one the favoritism of the DNC... as unnecessary as it was.. JHan Dec 2016 #43

Your reasons don't nullify anything I said in my post either..it is postmortem and opinion Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #50

So hillary told all the Media to focus on Trump? JHan Dec 2016 #52

Hillary did not call Fox News, CNN, MSBNC...all she had to do was talk to Brazille Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #55

I am not living in fantasy land.. JHan Dec 2016 #57

Leaked emails show who Hillary hand picked Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #67

Cable News Media favors ratings.. JHan Dec 2016 #69

Yep 4th time they ran Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #76

you take care, no hard feelings , enjoy your day ;) JHan Dec 2016 #77

plus 1000 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #110

K&R BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #49

that's reassuring! thanks for the info JHan Dec 2016 #59

I was curious about this myself BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #64

Applause. Millennials need to hear this and take responsibility for their childishness decision to politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2016 #58

Pretty tiring Uponthegears Dec 2016 #60

I endorse fully all of that.. JHan Dec 2016 #63

I figured out something similar Uponthegears Dec 2016 #75

Yep.. we shouldn't fear engaging the demons that arose this year and let us know they never left.. JHan Dec 2016 #78

Who is growing the Democrat base? jman0war Dec 2016 #65

"Dems have basically ceded blue collar workers now to the Republicans." BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #96

if I could recommend this single post I would.......... JHan Dec 2016 #100

Remember BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #104

add them to the 'enemies list' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #68

How did you arrive at this from my post? JHan Dec 2016 #70

Dudes doing that all over the place ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #98

Blaming the voters for an election loss is like blaming TV viewers for a series getting cancelled Midwestern Democrat Dec 2016 #71

No I feel comfortable doing it.. JHan Dec 2016 #72

A truly sorry generation of clueless sore heads. oasis Dec 2016 #73

Lawdie, every generation has their clueless ones :) :) JHan Dec 2016 #79

And what fomented the loss of Indys, X-Over Reps and Millennials? HRC selecting Kaine over Sanders TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #84

I didn't pin responsibility on one group though, note "also" , furthermore... JHan Dec 2016 #85

The classic strawman claim posted within a defensive reply. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #86

it's not my fault you didn't see "also" .... JHan Dec 2016 #87

Yes, the flailing stream of conscious prevented me from counting how many times the hands hit water. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #88

Well we all have our reasons .. but I don't want to derail the "stream of consciousness" so .. JHan Dec 2016 #90

I knew you'd correct the title length trimming I performed, it's part of one's character. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #91

Dems have lost over 900 seats since 2009 jman0war Dec 2016 #94

The GOP establishment is better? JHan Dec 2016 #99

I couldn't agree more red dog 1 Dec 2016 #111

I have a young friend who wrote in "giant meteor" ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #92

*facepalm*.. be careful what you wish for eh ... smh JHan Dec 2016 #95

Sounds right to me. Lyric Dec 2016 #101

In 1968, during the Nixon-Humphrey campaign, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #103

"they should have given it to Bernie" That Guy 888 Dec 2016 #107

Oh that word again "neo-liberal" JHan Dec 2016 #108

No offense, but I don't really care about who you supported 1st, 2nd or 3rd in the primary. That Guy 888 Dec 2016 #125

Stick a pin in it.. JHan Dec 2016 #127

"And the world would have been better without ACA?" That Guy 888 Dec 2016 #128

Millennials voted for Clinton NobodyHere Dec 2016 #112

No Baby boomers are to blame LostOne4Ever Dec 2016 #114

More young people voted for Bernie Sanders than Trump and Clinton combined by a lot portlander23 Dec 2016 #115

I never hung my hat on millennials costing us the election *alone* JHan Dec 2016 #116

And, it's their future Planet.. go figure, JHan Cha Dec 2016 #124