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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Post removed [View all]noamnety
(20,234 posts)43. All that is true, but it doesn't change my point.
She clearly gambled on that and lost, fucking herself in the process.
But more importantly, she missed that it isn't always about her.
The stand she took against verifying election results - as a general concept - hurts democrats down ticket, and democrats in future elections. She claimed that verifying election results is anti-democracy, and the DNC sat around applauding her as she said it.
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I defended Clinton throughout and got many, many hides for it. I AGREE WITH THIS.
KittyWampus
Dec 2016
#30
LOL. this whole election fraud is as dumb on the left as it is on the right.
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#2
just because you dont like the results doesn't mean there was fraud. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#5
I don't like voter suppression, that is fraud on its face... to dismiss it as a factor is a non star
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#11
yes, voter suppression is fraud. but not the type of fraud that the left seems particularly engaged
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#15
What difference does it make what kind of election fraud dems think it is, voter suppression is ...
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#25
right but by focusing on the theft narrative, we don't see what is happen in the open
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#27
Yes, so much... focusing on Shitlers tweets and crap isn't going to change anything but making sure
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#26
And just because you and I both supported Clinton doesn't mean we can't criticize the FAIL
KittyWampus
Dec 2016
#32
this is not one of her fails. one of her fails was to go to states that we could never win
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#38
THERE IS NO FRAUD! There is suppression, gerrymandering, and other problems, but...
TreasonousBastard
Dec 2016
#20
Irrelevant on how they're dealt with post election, no one is talking about that. Getting to agree
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#44
In your example eligble citizens are promised the right to vote no? PREVENTING people from voting or
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#50
Well, since recounts aren't happening and can not happen due to systems that are inexcusably
KittyWampus
Dec 2016
#34
Cause voter suppression was aimed at the right? REALLY?! Factually this is not true, I like reality
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#10
You intimated such by saying election fraud is dumb, voter suppression is a form of election fraud..
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#16
How to guarantee that fraud doesn't occur and that every vote counts? Sometimes simpler
jonno99
Dec 2016
#13
Those are words, he "strong position" doesn't mean crap legally... she can still chalenge the result
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#9
What? HRC said she would accept election results; she never took stand against verifying them.
Justice
Dec 2016
#19
yes, she was too busy being outraged by groupthink and should have nuanced it
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#47
One of the pervasive myths in this country is that there are free and fair elections.
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#53