2016 Postmortem

Gothmog

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134. I was a delegate to the DNC and extreme efforts were made to welcome sanders supporters

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:07 PM

Dec 2016

The platform was re-written to make Sanders happy and the Rules Committee worked until 2AM to come up with rules to make sanders happy. I was also in the delegation where two dozen very young sanders supporters walked in with locked arms to condemn Hillary Clinton and to demand that we vote for Sanders. It was fun watching the older sanders supporters come around and apologize to the Hillary delegates for these actions. From my observation, there were a ton of bernie or bust types at the convention who would never be happy.

I am curious what more could have been done to make the Sanders types happy? Putting Sanders on the ticket would have be a mistake given the oppo research that I have seen on him. Please tell me what could have been done to satisfy your demands?

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Looks like you have a not so secret "admirer"! George II Dec 2016 #150

Lots of nihilists in his day. jalan48 Dec 2016 #24

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The SDS? The Symbionese Liberation Army? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #28

Great! Now what? TXCritter Dec 2016 #29

The same "now what" for every other Internet post Cary Dec 2016 #31

Damn. I thought you had a plan. TXCritter Dec 2016 #42

I wasn't aware that I had some need to meet your expectations Cary Dec 2016 #54

Trotsky? Sean Penn? Abbie Hoffman? JenniferJuniper Dec 2016 #30

people who don't trust people are very untrustworthy people. Exilednight Dec 2016 #33

I've never heard that one before. Cary Dec 2016 #36

It's where we get the saying that there Exilednight Dec 2016 #108

I'm sorry you hate me. Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #34

I didn't say anything about hate Cary Dec 2016 #35

Oh, right. Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #37

(on edit) They don't seem to trust folks like you, either. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #40

Okay Ken, who didn't vote for "our" ticket? CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #45

Great reply! Cary Dec 2016 #49

Great post Gothmog Dec 2016 #127

You speak for "them?" Cary Dec 2016 #47

I don't SPEAK for "them" Ken Burch Dec 2016 #65

You said.tbey don't trust me Cary Dec 2016 #68

I'll amend it to "from my observation, I DOUBT they trust you" Ken Burch Dec 2016 #80

Well said, Ken. I wish I could rec this reply. n/t ms liberty Dec 2016 #89

You were embarrassed by Skinner on this once before, Ken. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #106

She should have made that speech before and after the election... sfwriter Dec 2016 #136

Thank you Cary Dec 2016 #203

I was a delegate to the DNC and extreme efforts were made to welcome sanders supporters Gothmog Dec 2016 #134

First hand experience and observations are a THOUSAND times more powerful than idle speculation. George II Dec 2016 #154

I agree Gothmog Dec 2016 #174

The idle speculators never give.up Cary Dec 2016 #204

The idiots who voted for third party will learn that there is a difference between the parties Gothmog Dec 2016 #126

Ahh, I was wondering what is meant by "radical left". So good thing we dodged that bullet Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #131

If their loathing is irrational, is yours rational? uppityperson Dec 2016 #44

What loathing would that be? Cary Dec 2016 #48

Why assume they have irrational loathing? uppityperson Dec 2016 #60

It's no assumption. Cary Dec 2016 #64

I see no one saying they loath you so it is only an assumption that they do uppityperson Dec 2016 #66

You look but you don't see Cary Dec 2016 #205

We can't win without the votes of the people you call "the radical left". Ken Burch Dec 2016 #39

That's exactly why I don't trust the radical left Cary Dec 2016 #50

At Philadelphia, a lot of the people you label "radical left" felt knifed by the "moderates" Ken Burch Dec 2016 #77

Why didn't we let people come to our convention and do whatever they wanted? Seriously? BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #107

Sure we can! CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #56

Yep Cary Dec 2016 #59

Why do you assume the "far left"(I question your use of that term...most of the "left" here Ken Burch Dec 2016 #73

Shit, these third way types talk the same way the rethugs do about the "far left". Sadly, anyone dionysus Dec 2016 #83

You are not far left, in fact you are not left at all if you didnt vote for Hillary Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #133

Irresponsible or not, it's hardly a new definition of radial left. white_wolf Dec 2016 #145

But folks who supported Bernie but refuse to support Hillary are not now or Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #147

It isn't their objectives that I object to.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #140

I disagree, Ken, that we can't appeal to anyone "to the right of where we were in 2016" for votes mtnsnake Dec 2016 #177

I'm fine with not stereotyping rural folks Ken Burch Dec 2016 #202

Radical left offering free healthcare, radical right offering concentration camps. DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #41

It's actually the exact opposite: forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #111

We lost this election because our politicians keep thinking they can court corporations and the JCanete Dec 2016 #43

So tired of this schtick Cary Dec 2016 #51

That's what you've got? Why post on a discussion board if all you actually want is echo? JCanete Dec 2016 #79

I don't trust anybody bravenak Dec 2016 #46

Then you are part of the problem. tecelote Dec 2016 #52

Yes your problems are all my fault Cary Dec 2016 #57

Lost me there. tecelote Dec 2016 #61

Good grief. Cary Dec 2016 #63

I'm not threatened. That's kind of funny though. tecelote Dec 2016 #69

Because I wanted to Cary Dec 2016 #71

Right. tecelote Dec 2016 #74

Who do you mean? no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #53

When they are radical enough radical noodle Dec 2016 #55

Sowing discord and discontent for no good reason Cary Dec 2016 #58

Exactly radical noodle Dec 2016 #62

They're taking it a step further now Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #78

Political beliefs form a circle radical noodle Dec 2016 #81

And I will never, ever trust the corporate left hueymahl Dec 2016 #67

No. I don't "see how that works." Cary Dec 2016 #70

Interesting hueymahl Dec 2016 #72

Nobody cares cliffordu Dec 2016 #82

Hey cliffordu! Cary Dec 2016 #90

I'm left of center. But no one gives a shit who you trust. phleshdef Dec 2016 #84

I don't recall saying that anyone cared. Cary Dec 2016 #91

... longship Dec 2016 #86

Why? Cary Dec 2016 #94

Because if we don't stick together, the fucking bad guys win. longship Dec 2016 #96

Then stick together Cary Dec 2016 #99

Well, whatever you do, don't reach out. longship Dec 2016 #102

Because it's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. If we don't unite, we lose. longship Dec 2016 #146

Radicals, no matter what flavor, are not your friends, period DFW Dec 2016 #87

Seriously right! World would have been a better place without those frikken radicals like MLK and JCanete Dec 2016 #88

"Broad brush" Cary Dec 2016 #93

Just why? Your op was a single line to start shit...and all you're doing in the thread is JCanete Dec 2016 #151

I don't see a radical in your list DFW Dec 2016 #97

I'm a radical because I said define your terms? Are you just being butthurt because you JCanete Dec 2016 #149

Sure seems that way DFW. Cary Dec 2016 #92

I don't know that I can say I have "enough" friends DFW Dec 2016 #101

Rather bemusing the exceptions you take to opinions LanternWaste Dec 2016 #95

There were tens of millions of us, all voting for Trump! Orsino Dec 2016 #98

How do you come to decree what I thought? Cary Dec 2016 #100

Consider lightening up. Orsino Dec 2016 #109

Lighten up on what? Cary Dec 2016 #115

Tough one for me as many define "radical left" in different ways. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #103

+1 BainsBane Dec 2016 #105

How about having good manners? Cary Dec 2016 #114

Don't cede to them the term left BainsBane Dec 2016 #104

Thanks BainsBane Cary Dec 2016 #112

If I weren't on the radical left, I wouldn't trust us either. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #110

Oh please Cary Dec 2016 #113

dude I was agreeing with you man forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #117

I'm sorry. Cary Dec 2016 #119

Since I reacted instead analyzed, I re-visited your post Cary Dec 2016 #183

Yeah I'm talking more about the far left types forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #189

Not 10% of leftists Cary Dec 2016 #193

I'm shocked liquid diamond Dec 2016 #116

Since when is criticism of JPR types considered divisive? Cary Dec 2016 #118

I've recently liquid diamond Dec 2016 #132

Except I didn't call out anything Cary Dec 2016 #139

It's coming forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #121

That's exactly liquid diamond Dec 2016 #135

anger Cary Dec 2016 #141

the obvious thing to do would be make a list and start ostracizing them immediately! farminator3000 Dec 2016 #120

I'm not interested in that debate Cary Dec 2016 #122

yes, it is clear that you are avoiding any debate farminator3000 Dec 2016 #142

Nice Cary Dec 2016 #143

The radical left/Anyone but Hillary idiots gave Trump the white house Gothmog Dec 2016 #123

I believe this too Cary Dec 2016 #125

Who, exactly, is the radical left and what qualifies one as a radical lefty?? Vinca Dec 2016 #130

For starters liquid diamond Dec 2016 #138

The Lefty Press ie: Salon, AlterNet, TruthDig otohara Dec 2016 #148

So I guess I'm a demon lefty because I love Bernie but voted for Hillary, BUT Vinca Dec 2016 #153

Feel Free To Listen/Read otohara Dec 2016 #157

I'm done rehashing the election, but I think Comey is who drove down votes. Vinca Dec 2016 #165

You Think The RADICAL's Cared About Comey? otohara Dec 2016 #167

We have a finite number of choices Cary Dec 2016 #170

Maybe When They Let Go Of Conspiracies otohara Dec 2016 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author bowens43 Dec 2016 #137

it's as though moral superiority is one of the stages of grief around here.... mike_c Dec 2016 #152

I'm not sure whom you think you're directing that to Cary Dec 2016 #158

What is "the radical left", and why do you not trust it? eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #155

How long has this been going on? Cary Dec 2016 #161

Badmouthing some Democrats is one thing. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #166

Radical is not a derogatory term Cary Dec 2016 #168

Radical can mean many things to many people. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #171

Bullshit Cary Dec 2016 #173

I am glad of your response, because Blue Dog Democrats are part of the problem. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #179

If you're going to buy that rubbish then I can't help you. Cary Dec 2016 #184

I do not make that argument, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #185

I don't buy the claim that real Democrats voted for Trump Cary Dec 2016 #195

Not all Blue Dogs are created equal. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #188

We definitely need them Cary Dec 2016 #196

I'm a radical who wants to win forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #197

But that isn't radical Cary Dec 2016 #200

This thread went well. closeupready Dec 2016 #156

And what, pray tell, does going well look like to you? Cary Dec 2016 #159

Without the "radicsl left" there would be no Democratic Party kentuck Dec 2016 #160

The Radical Left Has Turned Against The Democratic Party otohara Dec 2016 #162

But it was Fox PAC and "conservatives" Cary Dec 2016 #164

Kentuck, I don't buy that for a second Cary Dec 2016 #163

Sorry, but can you list the accomplishments of "moderate" Democrats? kentuck Dec 2016 #169

The Democratic Party isn't going to die Cary Dec 2016 #172

My "revolution" might include a raise in the minimum wage... kentuck Dec 2016 #176

kentuck, too many on the left threw out social justice when it meant voting for Hillary. seaglass Dec 2016 #191

Reading this string of similarly-themed posts on DU, I realize Pholus Dec 2016 #178

Agree. kentuck Dec 2016 #181

I'm just glad to see you're still here! :) Pholus Dec 2016 #186

Perhaps you want to wander into the General Discussion forum where a variety seaglass Dec 2016 #192

Point taken. But still.. Pholus Dec 2016 #201

Hey if it was up to me I'd rename this forum Postmortem America and end the seaglass Dec 2016 #206

Unless you are very specific about WHAT counts... JHB Dec 2016 #187

Come on JHB Cary Dec 2016 #194

After reading the TRIPE at JPR neither will I. They are just as bad as the Alt-Reich except a shade TrekLuver Dec 2016 #199