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In reply to the discussion: How were we supposed to reach 'Rural Whites' and still maintain our base? [View all]jalan48
(13,859 posts)183. If we reach out to rural whites where is our "base" going to go?
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How were we supposed to reach 'Rural Whites' and still maintain our base? [View all]
bravenak
Dec 2016
OP
Our problem isn't rural white's. It's apathy. When 46% of eligible voters can't be bothered to vote
Trust Buster
Dec 2016
#1
It started long before 2013. Voter turnout has become increasingly abysmal over the past
Trust Buster
Dec 2016
#105
Think that's one of the main reasons the Rethugs disempowered the new Dem NC Governor
MrPurple
Dec 2016
#179
Among the 14 states which add restrictive voting requirements, Wisconsin, Ohio,
still_one
Dec 2016
#233
Exactly. The voted for the guy who outsources his products. Nothing we could say would do jack
bravenak
Dec 2016
#4
and they are doing that already . Never a word about the businesses who hire undocumented workers .
lunasun
Dec 2016
#80
Then why talk about rural voters like they're a bunch of idiot racists that we can never win over?
realmirage
Dec 2016
#13
Many of them are? Why act like thats not true and pretend they are all aware and righteous?
bravenak
Dec 2016
#15
No but facts matter, 67% of Trump voters thought the UE rate went up during Obama term...
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#38
I live in rural ass Alaska and know about red states and just how racist rurals can be
bravenak
Dec 2016
#40
Until rural whites abandon their bigotry and embrace 21st century America, we should ignore them.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#7
And they'll ignore us RIGHT BACK and we'll go extinct as a Party. Great strategy
realmirage
Dec 2016
#14
With minorities, women, and us city folks making up the lion's share of his coalition
bravenak
Dec 2016
#21
Are you one of those people that lumps whole groups together? Like Trump does?
realmirage
Dec 2016
#37
Not all rural whites are bigots but a great number, perhaps even a majority of them are.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#46
Oh, please! If what you say is true we all would have been in a museum by now. n/t
kcr
Dec 2016
#170
Most likely lack of Democratic turnout rather than actual flipped votes, also I would be...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#166
That's precisely the problem, but it isn't as high as 25% in most cases, the differences in votes...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#210
She lost by a margin of approximately less than 100k in 3 states, it was pretty close to razor thin.
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#226
We won millions more votes. Those voters matter just as much as the ones you seem to focus
bravenak
Dec 2016
#26
I'll take the howard dean approach, you can go with shrinking the tent and become a party
dionysus
Dec 2016
#145
Empirically we were cheated out of this election, I'm not going to fight facts
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#32
+1, "get the control of the radio waves in these small towns. " seems like something that
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#29
Pay attention to when the Prog channels flip. it's usually becuase they were bought out.
Raine1967
Dec 2016
#103
Good point. I think you're right. I have heard this before and totally forgot about it.
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#208
In my small rural town, 90% of the people who grew up in the town are Republicans incl the Hispanics
womanofthehills
Dec 2016
#73
We don't "win" them we talk to them to whittle down the margin... that's about it
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#24
Your idea about the radio waves is good but where do we get the liberal funds...
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#30
Yes, for them it would be a drop in the bucket to by rural air time ... seems like something
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#35
Easy. It isn't either/or. EVERYONE needs JOBS. So SHOW UP, talk JOBS, and leave their guns alone!
RBInMaine
Dec 2016
#36
You are stereotyping as bad as the people you are accusing. I hope you enjoy LOSING.
RBInMaine
Dec 2016
#41
I am going to agree with others stating that it has to do with turn out ....
etherealtruth
Dec 2016
#43
Yes. We need to increase turnout among people who are reachable, not waste out energy
bravenak
Dec 2016
#67
It's hopeless. Rural Whites will only come back AFTER Trump pushes us into another depression.
tenorly
Dec 2016
#61
I wish I could stop using it, but the words I could replace it with would not go over well
bravenak
Dec 2016
#74
I have been going to rural mid-Missouri to visit the in-laws farm for the last 45 years...
NoMoreRepugs
Dec 2016
#81
The democratic party has lost Congress, the majority of governorships, the presidency
Joe Turner
Dec 2016
#94
+1, the blame dems first crew love to ignore the gerrymandering and act like it doesn't matter mosty
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#160
No. But election after election seems hyperbolic since obama won four tears ago
bravenak
Dec 2016
#150
The easiest explanation is that Asians, black and Hispanics tend to be located in the population cen
yuiyoshida
Dec 2016
#88
How to get the rural whites I described in my op while maintaining our base was my question
bravenak
Dec 2016
#111
We damn sure did!! Opportunity was not knocking at our doors, we had to find it.
bravenak
Dec 2016
#142
I would assume it would involve educating people on the issues. You have also
dionysus
Dec 2016
#143
Their neighborhoods filling with foreigners? Guess folks shoulda thought about that when they
bravenak
Dec 2016
#156
Rural neighborhoods are "filling up with foreigners"? What do you mean. Welcome to du
uppityperson
Dec 2016
#165
You live in urban area but have heard and noticed rural areas being filled with foreigners?
uppityperson
Dec 2016
#184
Think about how the native americans, the first nations people felt when white folks show up
bravenak
Dec 2016
#185
I find it interesting that no one ever asks about the people that hire illegals...
tenderfoot
Dec 2016
#194
I personally will not sit here and watch pandering. I just wont bother. I am just as important as
bravenak
Dec 2016
#186
I will Stay the fuck in my place that they put me in. Ignore me I ignore you. It is what it is.
bravenak
Dec 2016
#191
It will be interesting to see what strategy the Party adopts in the next few years.
jalan48
Dec 2016
#203
The alternative: revitalize their urban centers and move there. Then we'll have the votes for
JudyM
Dec 2016
#200
They're less likely to move than we are, though. And even if they move they still have the Electora
JudyM
Dec 2016
#202
We cannot. I think they have to get a full dose of Trump before they even consider changing
bravenak
Dec 2016
#219