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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How were we supposed to reach 'Rural Whites' and still maintain our base? [View all]JudyM
(29,294 posts)202. They're less likely to move than we are, though. And even if they move they still have the Electora
balance in their favor, right?
Just as good people are trying to redevelop Detroit now, same thing, just make it a project.
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How were we supposed to reach 'Rural Whites' and still maintain our base? [View all]
bravenak
Dec 2016
OP
Our problem isn't rural white's. It's apathy. When 46% of eligible voters can't be bothered to vote
Trust Buster
Dec 2016
#1
It started long before 2013. Voter turnout has become increasingly abysmal over the past
Trust Buster
Dec 2016
#105
Think that's one of the main reasons the Rethugs disempowered the new Dem NC Governor
MrPurple
Dec 2016
#179
Among the 14 states which add restrictive voting requirements, Wisconsin, Ohio,
still_one
Dec 2016
#233
Exactly. The voted for the guy who outsources his products. Nothing we could say would do jack
bravenak
Dec 2016
#4
and they are doing that already . Never a word about the businesses who hire undocumented workers .
lunasun
Dec 2016
#80
Then why talk about rural voters like they're a bunch of idiot racists that we can never win over?
realmirage
Dec 2016
#13
Many of them are? Why act like thats not true and pretend they are all aware and righteous?
bravenak
Dec 2016
#15
No but facts matter, 67% of Trump voters thought the UE rate went up during Obama term...
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#38
I live in rural ass Alaska and know about red states and just how racist rurals can be
bravenak
Dec 2016
#40
Until rural whites abandon their bigotry and embrace 21st century America, we should ignore them.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#7
And they'll ignore us RIGHT BACK and we'll go extinct as a Party. Great strategy
realmirage
Dec 2016
#14
With minorities, women, and us city folks making up the lion's share of his coalition
bravenak
Dec 2016
#21
Are you one of those people that lumps whole groups together? Like Trump does?
realmirage
Dec 2016
#37
Not all rural whites are bigots but a great number, perhaps even a majority of them are.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#46
Oh, please! If what you say is true we all would have been in a museum by now. n/t
kcr
Dec 2016
#170
Most likely lack of Democratic turnout rather than actual flipped votes, also I would be...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#166
That's precisely the problem, but it isn't as high as 25% in most cases, the differences in votes...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#210
She lost by a margin of approximately less than 100k in 3 states, it was pretty close to razor thin.
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#226
We won millions more votes. Those voters matter just as much as the ones you seem to focus
bravenak
Dec 2016
#26
I'll take the howard dean approach, you can go with shrinking the tent and become a party
dionysus
Dec 2016
#145
Empirically we were cheated out of this election, I'm not going to fight facts
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#32
+1, "get the control of the radio waves in these small towns. " seems like something that
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#29
Pay attention to when the Prog channels flip. it's usually becuase they were bought out.
Raine1967
Dec 2016
#103
Good point. I think you're right. I have heard this before and totally forgot about it.
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#208
In my small rural town, 90% of the people who grew up in the town are Republicans incl the Hispanics
womanofthehills
Dec 2016
#73
We don't "win" them we talk to them to whittle down the margin... that's about it
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#24
Your idea about the radio waves is good but where do we get the liberal funds...
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#30
Yes, for them it would be a drop in the bucket to by rural air time ... seems like something
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#35
Easy. It isn't either/or. EVERYONE needs JOBS. So SHOW UP, talk JOBS, and leave their guns alone!
RBInMaine
Dec 2016
#36
You are stereotyping as bad as the people you are accusing. I hope you enjoy LOSING.
RBInMaine
Dec 2016
#41
I am going to agree with others stating that it has to do with turn out ....
etherealtruth
Dec 2016
#43
Yes. We need to increase turnout among people who are reachable, not waste out energy
bravenak
Dec 2016
#67
It's hopeless. Rural Whites will only come back AFTER Trump pushes us into another depression.
tenorly
Dec 2016
#61
I wish I could stop using it, but the words I could replace it with would not go over well
bravenak
Dec 2016
#74
I have been going to rural mid-Missouri to visit the in-laws farm for the last 45 years...
NoMoreRepugs
Dec 2016
#81
The democratic party has lost Congress, the majority of governorships, the presidency
Joe Turner
Dec 2016
#94
+1, the blame dems first crew love to ignore the gerrymandering and act like it doesn't matter mosty
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#160
No. But election after election seems hyperbolic since obama won four tears ago
bravenak
Dec 2016
#150
The easiest explanation is that Asians, black and Hispanics tend to be located in the population cen
yuiyoshida
Dec 2016
#88
How to get the rural whites I described in my op while maintaining our base was my question
bravenak
Dec 2016
#111
We damn sure did!! Opportunity was not knocking at our doors, we had to find it.
bravenak
Dec 2016
#142
I would assume it would involve educating people on the issues. You have also
dionysus
Dec 2016
#143
Their neighborhoods filling with foreigners? Guess folks shoulda thought about that when they
bravenak
Dec 2016
#156
Rural neighborhoods are "filling up with foreigners"? What do you mean. Welcome to du
uppityperson
Dec 2016
#165
You live in urban area but have heard and noticed rural areas being filled with foreigners?
uppityperson
Dec 2016
#184
Think about how the native americans, the first nations people felt when white folks show up
bravenak
Dec 2016
#185
I find it interesting that no one ever asks about the people that hire illegals...
tenderfoot
Dec 2016
#194
I personally will not sit here and watch pandering. I just wont bother. I am just as important as
bravenak
Dec 2016
#186
I will Stay the fuck in my place that they put me in. Ignore me I ignore you. It is what it is.
bravenak
Dec 2016
#191
It will be interesting to see what strategy the Party adopts in the next few years.
jalan48
Dec 2016
#203
The alternative: revitalize their urban centers and move there. Then we'll have the votes for
JudyM
Dec 2016
#200
They're less likely to move than we are, though. And even if they move they still have the Electora
JudyM
Dec 2016
#202
We cannot. I think they have to get a full dose of Trump before they even consider changing
bravenak
Dec 2016
#219