2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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73. this is so disconnected from reality. You think coalitions are just made? That people who

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:02 PM

Dec 2016

owe their careers to courting business interests are going to see the wisdom of a person who is advocating against those mechanisms?

The very reason a person railing against the system as is stands does not get clout or power from that system, is that he is anathema to its very existence.

You're ideas are make-believe. The fact that he somehow, just for the sake of plugging away his whole life, and timing, caught a wave of sentiment near the end of it, has nothing to do with him "selling out." The clout he's building now is all for show from the establishment, I assure you. He was always there. He always knew these people. Nobody stood behind or with him before. You are suggesting that they would have, had he gone about things differently but I assure you, they were much happier when they could render him mute.

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I said this as much, if Sanders had started this revolution 20 years ago Clinton would not have uponit7771 Dec 2016 #1

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2016 #2

Some will never forgive him. Orsino Dec 2016 #3

Has Sanders changed his FEC filing to run as a Democrat for Senate in 2018? Gothmog Dec 2016 #4

Would it help? n/t Orsino Dec 2016 #6

It Might - When He Says "We" otohara Dec 2016 #11

Probably just "the people." kickitup Dec 2016 #16

No It's Him Not Wanting To Utter otohara Dec 2016 #21

If the election taught us anything, it's that "party" doesn't really matter anymore. kickitup Dec 2016 #29

this is not "broaderthanapartyunderground" and I love me some Bernie LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #63

He's caucused with Dems longer than I've been alive... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #18

While Stabbing Them In The Back otohara Dec 2016 #23

That's rich. It really is. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #49

Can't Love A Party You Repeatedly Scorn otohara Dec 2016 #53

So if he put a D after his name again... Orsino Dec 2016 #20

I Don't Know otohara Dec 2016 #22

Whatever it is you loathe, I don't see him changing his ways. Orsino Dec 2016 #27

"I went from liking him to loathing him". I'm with you on that. I used to admire him until I started BlueCaliDem Dec 2016 #38

I was generally OK with him BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #60

He probably still has more supporters than some of his detractors think. Cal33 Dec 2016 #35

It might, especially if the Vermont Democratic leadership lapucelle Dec 2016 #44

Exactly. Tired of Sanders tweeting about what Democrats should do. He should join us or stop. Justice Dec 2016 #62

Agreed Gothmog Dec 2016 #65

Yes, because they are still dragging that smelly old canard around... Raster Dec 2016 #5

+ 1000 MelissaB Dec 2016 #7

you might try reading this: niyad Dec 2016 #26

Been there, read that. Just another opinion, nothing more... Raster Dec 2016 #37

and your opinion is just your opinion, no matter how many times repeated. niyad Dec 2016 #39

Absolutely true and NEVER maintained otherwise. Raster Dec 2016 #40

Yep lastone Dec 2016 #57

Well said. His statements now really show the desperate R B Garr Dec 2016 #8

On his way out the door? TCJ70 Dec 2016 #9

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #10

and peddles his book DURHAM D Dec 2016 #12

Just like a lot of people. I don't see the problem with him selling a book lol NWCorona Dec 2016 #33

how tacky! Hillary would NEVER write books!11 nt m-lekktor Dec 2016 #36

Yeah we definitely don't want a candidate who "pads their accounts" Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #14

They are absolutely clueless. kickitup Dec 2016 #15

Exactly...n/t TCJ70 Dec 2016 #19

If only he had padded his account earlier in life like some others I won't mention. kickitup Dec 2016 #13

Yeah, like the ol' GOP family values double standard. R B Garr Dec 2016 #17

I alerted on this. HassleCat Dec 2016 #24

Thanks. I'm getting out of here for a while. elleng Dec 2016 #30

Hey, Ellen, I think more and more of Bernie's supporters are returning to this site -- slowly, Cal33 Dec 2016 #45

Hi, Cal33. I'm back! elleng Dec 2016 #61

I'm calling it right now. Hillary Clinton will run in 2020. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #48

If she does, she'll have to have better staff work. elleng Dec 2016 #68

They can't reply... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #42

Yeah-all that money he took from lobbyists as well. jalan48 Dec 2016 #25

Oh the sweet smell of irony when someone with a Hillary Clinton avatar PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #28

Can you imagine The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #31

That's right BERNIE. NO books for you. Know your place. yodermon Dec 2016 #32

Aren't you tired of the sour grapes yet? NWCorona Dec 2016 #34

WTF? When did you decide to go full-hate? aikoaiko Dec 2016 #41

bitter bitter bitter...get over it she lost bowens43 Dec 2016 #43

Yep, he should be prepping for his inauguation next month, TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #46

"The machine" BainsBane Dec 2016 #47

"The Machine" SaschaHM Dec 2016 #51

You know full well what the machine reference was. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #52

I'm not being stupid. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #54

How could anyone ask a snarky question like that when the primaries R B Garr Dec 2016 #69

OMFG... SidDithers Dec 2016 #70

Unfortunately, many think that the honest politicians - those with integrity and who work for Cal33 Dec 2016 #50

Can you imagine channeling your hate towards Trump and the Republicans? Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #55

I hope we have a Dem running the Vermont Senate in 2018. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #56

If Bernie sold out, then who paid him? NT Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #58

Someone's mad n/t Devil Child Dec 2016 #59

One never hears the corporate-style Dems . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #64

Its almost laughable to still see these kinds of OPs. Forget sore loser, we have sore winners. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #66

!!! Raster Dec 2016 #67

Looking for as many scapegoats as possible The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #71

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #72

this is so disconnected from reality. You think coalitions are just made? That people who JCanete Dec 2016 #73

What a monumental pile of sore losing bull crap mtnsnake Dec 2016 #74