God I'm So Sick Of This Bullshit (Reply #81)

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Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:59 PM

Z_California (650 posts)

81. God I'm So Sick Of This Bullshit

Please Democratic party, please be the party of the people and not this crap. Your future depends on it!

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180 replies	Author	Time	Post
And the 2016 Ralph Nader Award Goes to Bernie Sanders - Time.com [View all]	factfinder_77	Jan 2017	OP
Bernie DISTRACTED Hillary!	HassleCat	Jan 2017	#1
Damn that Bernie	Jake Stern	Jan 2017	#8
No, The Systems Not Totally Rigged. But That Idea Sure Helped Donald Trump.	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#46
Primary accusations always can be used in the general election --	karynnj	Jan 2017	#62
Sanders also claimed that the election process was rigged and Trump quoted him	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#101
Both Clinton and Sanders worked for the nominee after the primaries ended.	karynnj	Jan 2017	#103
I was a delegate to the national convention	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#106
I know how the Vermont delegates were chosen	karynnj	Jan 2017	#108
Under DNC rules the candidate has the right to approve or reject delegates	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#111
More like Hey you Corporatist!	WhiteTara	Jan 2017	#63
no, he offered unrealistic promises based on simplistic solutions which appeals to large numbers of	Bill USA	Jan 2017	#170
Really on a roll ain't ya..	pangaia	Jan 2017	#2
Yeah no one wants to face this but....	bettyellen	Jan 2017	#3
The result would have been exactly the same	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#6
Three strikes was supposed to be for violent felons and the GOP took it further ...	bettyellen	Jan 2017	#9
+1	betsuni	Jan 2017	#10
That was how they sold it...	Wounded Bear	Jan 2017	#11
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Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2017	#57
Has Sanders changed his FEC filing to run as a Democrat for Senate in 2018?	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#59
It's what it was- and GOPers changed the laws...	bettyellen	Jan 2017	#20
Oh gosh no. Bernie gave ammunition to the same folks who STILL are saying	Eliot Rosewater	Jan 2017	#152
no one want to face fact THAT BERNIE HARDLY CAMPAIGNED FOR HILLARY.	trueblue2007	Jan 2017	#25
Sanders was in the democratic race for media coverage and money	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#48
Hogwash. Your hobby of making Sanders out to be a greedy money-grubbing opportunist is pathetic	ThirdEye	Jan 2017	#85
Right. According to him, bernie has to have suitcases of dirty cash stashed somewhere...	dionysus	Jan 2017	#89
It's also anti-Semitic af	Arazi	Jan 2017	#91
Have you bought his latest book yet?	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#98
The OP is mostly BS. Sanders attacks had an effect but Hillary still won the pop. vote by 3 million	brush	Jan 2017	#56
Not only is it BS. It's the same dog whistle narrative we've been hearing for 2 months.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#72
+1000. I bet she took her foot off the gas in a few states she thought he	R B Garr	Jan 2017	#116
Utterly ridiculous. Clearly you have not seen his schedule. He busted his ass on the trail for her,	JudyM	Jan 2017	#137
The primaries hurt her a lot, but Bernie eventually jump in	Alice11111	Jan 2017	#126
He campaigned for her quite a bit.	thesquanderer	Jan 2017	#180
yep.	boston bean	Jan 2017	#39
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2017	#54
I agree with this	bravenak	Jan 2017	#4
I also agree with the analysis in the OP	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#47
It's certainly truth	bravenak	Jan 2017	#80
The OP is promoting the same narrative Bernie supporters have been pushing since the election.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#94
heck I'll beg along with you in that case.	JHan	Jan 2017	#95
I know thats right	bravenak	Jan 2017	#114
I would support Hillary Clinton if she ran for POTUS again	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#147
Put me in the long line that says bull$hit.	CentralMass	Jan 2017	#5
Shout loudest + throw tantrums + don't see any bumper stickers they think they are the majority. T	factfinder_77	Jan 2017	#14
It is anyone's turn.	CentralMass	Jan 2017	#37
Exactly!	Duppers	Jan 2017	#18
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The guy who wrote this, Gil Troy, wrote one book called "Hillary Clinton, Polarizing First Lady"	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#12
Thanks. Figures.	Duppers	Jan 2017	#17
shhhhh!	Locrian	Jan 2017	#31
That doesn't really address his argument	treestar	Jan 2017	#69
It's pertinent that the man has an anti-progressive bias of VERY long standing	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#83
Yet he's promoting the same narrative that DU posters have been promoting for 2 months.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#84
It's NOT that the party should stop talking about race or talk about it less	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#141
Contrary to your assertions, Sanders policies are not that popular in the real world	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#150
Thank you!	MelissaB	Jan 2017	#110
Thanks. Good point. nt	riderinthestorm	Jan 2017	#136
Centrist think they should be in charge, oops.	Rex	Jan 2017	#140
This narrative is bull shit no matter which side it comes from.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#15
Whatever else, you can never underestimate the influence Comey had on this election	world wide wally	Jan 2017	#16
That article is full-on love fest for Bill's campaigning and policies when in office. I'm sorry but	JCanete	Jan 2017	#19
You talk like Bill Clinton was worse than bush and trump.	boston bean	Jan 2017	#41
Yep	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#50
no I don't. That's a hell of a leap, made without a lick of evidence. nt	JCanete	Jan 2017	#97
No, that wasn't what that person said.	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#128
we so far right right now with our new leader (DUMP) Bill Clinton looks like a radical leftist.	boston bean	Jan 2017	#130
That isn't even the point. Yes, Trump is to the right of Bill Clinton.	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#133
No that is not the case. And I DISAGREE!	boston bean	Jan 2017	#134
If you actually elaborate here, some of us will actually read it. It won't be in vain, I promise. nt	JCanete	Jan 2017	#173
You are wrong yet again	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#148
The OP is promoting the same narrative Bernie supporters have been pushing since the election.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#71
We agree the narrative is bullshit.	JCanete	Jan 2017	#102
It isn't that Bernie's positions on various issues are unpopular or wrong. Here's the problem:	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#107
we've had this discussion before, or at least we've been conversing about it in the same threads,	JCanete	Jan 2017	#109
Read Paul Kennedy's Rise and Fall of the Great Powers	LanternWaste	Jan 2017	#117
seriously? this is a message board and people are discussing things. I'm talking about in THIS	JCanete	Jan 2017	#120
I don't have much time, so I'll have to keep this short.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#155
Thanks for the conversation. This won't be up much longer, so I know you may not have the time to	JCanete	Jan 2017	#165
I have a free moment to respond.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#166
thanks again for the discourse! Just to answer G really quick, because I think this is important.	JCanete	Jan 2017	#167
And, see, I think racism is the root.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#168
I'll just say quickly, that if that is the root, then you would have to be suggesting that we	JCanete	Jan 2017	#171
I think it's the root of why people vote against their class interests.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#175
but as to human nature where does racism get placed? What fundamental itch is it scratching?	JCanete	Jan 2017	#177
Here's the problems with that response	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#135
I didn't say Sanders advocated not fighting racism.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#153
O.K., I read that. I agree with all of it and I think the candidate I backed in the primaries	Ken Burch	Jan 2017	#158
Then I Suppose The 2016 Al Gore Award Goes To...	chwaliszewski	Jan 2017	#21
And the 2016 Iran Hostage Crisis Award goes to Comey...	JHB	Jan 2017	#26
All sorts of things to point fingers at...	chwaliszewski	Jan 2017	#30
There were many, many contributing factors, and with the margin so thin...	JHB	Jan 2017	#38
Comey is pond scum and lacks any professional or other ethics	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#149
Thanks factfinder	Cha	Jan 2017	#22
Hillary was entitled to the nomination and Bernie	jg10003	Jan 2017	#23
Or Democrats wanted Hillary	WhiteTara	Jan 2017	#65
Ignoring for a moment any possible unfairness during the primaries	ThirdEye	Jan 2017	#86
This is more about the way he did it	treestar	Jan 2017	#68
"Clean issue oriented campaign" UNTIL New York. Scorched earth after that	emulatorloo	Jan 2017	#129
Can't say Bernie HELPED get a strong nominee to the top of the ticket	SticksnStones	Jan 2017	#24
Issues matter and Bernie's had broad cross-over appeal. Many Dems felt his issues mattered a great	JudyM	Jan 2017	#138
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Fake Progressivism ushered in Trump.	delisen	Jan 2017	#32
Republicans were the isolationist, America First crowd before PH	Cooley Hurd	Jan 2017	#35
Burton Wheeler-D Montana, David Walsh-D MA, Key Pittman,D-Nv	delisen	Jan 2017	#43
This	otohara	Jan 2017	#53
I agree	WhiteTara	Jan 2017	#66
More like fake progressives. nt	JTFrog	Jan 2017	#33
My sentiments exactly. n/t	Lil Missy	Jan 2017	#28
A lot wrong with this article, some right.	Tortmaster	Jan 2017	#29
(1a) So was Johnson, in a sense	JHB	Jan 2017	#40
K&R n/t	JTFrog	Jan 2017	#34
Unlike Nader, Bernie's name was NOT on the GE Ballot.	PotatoChip	Jan 2017	#36
Bernie Sanders was on the ballot and unperformed Clinton	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#60
Hmmm... spammm....	dionysus	Jan 2017	#90
Facts are not span unless facts scare you	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#96
uh...	kenfrequed	Jan 2017	#115
You got to be kidding-no one in the real world believe in those silly match up polls	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#123
Absurd	kenfrequed	Jan 2017	#156
Sanders was treated with kid gloves by the Clinton campaign and there was a ton of material	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#160
Another comically bad op-ed	kenfrequed	Jan 2017	#161
Sanders does not have a good record at all and would have been destroyed	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#162
Democrats would be insane to nominate Sanders	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#125
Dana Milbank?	kenfrequed	Jan 2017	#157
Sanders was not vetted by the press and would have been a weak candidate	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#159
Eichenwald writes a fishwrap	kenfrequed	Jan 2017	#163
More discussion of the Fishwrap of Eichenwald	kenfrequed	Jan 2017	#164
You have been cutting and pasting the same opinions (not facts)	dionysus	Jan 2017	#118
Ignoring the facts will not make the facts false	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#122
Believing an opinion doesn't make it a fact. Op-eds are opinion. Nt	dionysus	Jan 2017	#131
Where are the millions/billions/trillions of new voters that Sanders promised	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#145
Facts are good things	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#143
Thank you for that, Gothmog.. valuble information like that can't	Cha	Jan 2017	#142
Sanders' proposals are not that popular	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#146
Polls suggest a majority support for his economic stances, but bigotry gets in the way.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#169
K&R.	Paladin	Jan 2017	#42
I think Hillary would have lost the pop vote outright if she tacked center like this.	forjusticethunders	Jan 2017	#44
It's the same narrative Bernie supporters have been promoting since the election.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#74
This is very true	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#45
Did Bernie hurt Hillary Clinton as she moved into the GE? Definitely	NWCorona	Jan 2017	#49
Actually Sanders and Nader have a great deal in common	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#61
Nader has things in common with a lot of elected Democrats	NWCorona	Jan 2017	#64
Do you tire of being wrong?	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#99
I don't think either of us are wrong but what ever	NWCorona	Jan 2017	#105
Sanders and his agenda was on the ballot in 2016 and that agenda failed	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#113
Why did it fail in 2016? I can't say for sure but it was a mix of things	NWCorona	Jan 2017	#119
Sanders' agenda failed because it had no chance of being adopted in the real world	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#121
I'm willing to give it time.	NWCorona	Jan 2017	#132
When will these millions/billions/trillions of new voter show up	Gothmog	Jan 2017	#144
K&R for truth	Haveadream	Jan 2017	#51
This is absolutely true. Bernie distracted Democrats with his attacks on them.	R B Garr	Jan 2017	#52
He didn't distract her. He simply never stopped fanning the flames of division.	NCTraveler	Jan 2017	#55
Ahh this one again from November. Must be running out of anti-Bernie pieces so we need repeats! nt	m-lekktor	Jan 2017	#58
It's the same narrative Bernie supporters have been promoting since the election.	Garrett78	Jan 2017	#70
But of course... certain parties here at DU realize their Sanders bullshit is about to shelf expire.	Raster	Jan 2017	#79
Good analysis	treestar	Jan 2017	#67
Yeah, I remember when Nader campaigned for Gore	killbotfactory	Jan 2017	#73
I know, he really worked his ass off...	Raster	Jan 2017	#100
Lotta words, no data.	Orsino	Jan 2017	#75
Simplistic, and totally ignoring the numerous voter suppression tactics employed by the GOP.	guillaumeb	Jan 2017	#76
I think it's perfectly legitimate to have those debates in a primary	BainsBane	Jan 2017	#77
What a load of shit... I cannot wait until Friday, January 20....	Raster	Jan 2017	#78
God I'm So Sick Of This Bullshit	Z_California	Jan 2017	#81
Let's accept this...	tonedevil	Jan 2017	#82
What a load of horse shit. "He pushed her too far left to prevent an effective recentering"	dionysus	Jan 2017	#87
History judges.	yallerdawg	Jan 2017	#88
All I know is I've heard a whole lot of people voted for Trump only because they disliked Hillary.	Vinca	Jan 2017	#92
Yeah, its obvious the Democratic party wants to continue it's long slide into ignominy	Arazi	Jan 2017	#93
this is the opinion of one columnist..	JHan	Jan 2017	#127
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"intimidated by Black Lives Matter"?! Fuck this guy.	JustinL	Jan 2017	#112
Well, wasn't Trump their "Person of the Year" so why not?	flvegan	Jan 2017	#124
Time also named Trump Person of the Year.	Rex	Jan 2017	#139
OFFS	montanacowboy	Jan 2017	#151
Wow. Glad 2016 Postmortem Forum is coming to an end.	tecelote	Jan 2017	#154
This article is plenty nasty and unfair to HRC as well.	StevieM	Jan 2017	#172
After the first paragraph I had to LMOA--Really now? Bernie hurt Clinton's chances? Ugh! n/a	vaberella	Jan 2017	#174
I'm sure the Repukes	customerserviceguy	Jan 2017	#176
This is just counterproductive and serves no purpose other than to divide and conquer.	AgadorSparticus	Jan 2017	#178
So the only way a Dem can win is to be a moderate Republican?	thesquanderer	Jan 2017	#179

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