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magical thyme

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86. proposing cuts to social security just ahead of 2014

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:37 AM

Apr 2013

is not a good way to hold the senate or regain the house. Democrats are now forced to distance themselves from the President, and not all of them are.

That cost W dearly in 2006 and President Obama dearly in 2010.

My own rep, who had signed the letter stating that chained CPI was bad policy is now refusing to promise not to cut SS.

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Laugh and deride if you want, but this is how it's going down... [View all] Rosco T. Apr 2013 OP

He put it in writing in a fancy blue binder. robinlynne Apr 2013 #1

He has binders full of chess moves. nt Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #5

Yeah. robinlynne Apr 2013 #42

I'm laughing.......pure fantasy. yourout Apr 2013 #2

Obama is playing rope a dope on the GOP. alfredo Apr 2013 #14

laughing kardonb Apr 2013 #53

Using the SS benefits to delude or "scare" the GOP into action is just as bad. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #3

+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #6

Exactly. progressoid Apr 2013 #11

You give the average Joe far too much credit Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #17

I was thinking more about the 70-75 million senior voters that will be bombarded with negative ads progressoid Apr 2013 #34

Average Joe/Jane didn't let crap corporate entertainment... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #44

Problem is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #102

Obama wasn't on the ballot in 2010, either. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #115

Doesn't matter, the OP is already blaming 2014 on the Liberals. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2013 #59

Actual ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #103

Please read the OP's last sentence. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2013 #112

So what does ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #116

Who will be running against Obama in 2014? brooklynite Apr 2013 #62

Ya know, it probably doesn't matter if you lose a few thousand votes to the repukes in Brooklyn. progressoid Apr 2013 #65

So you think people are going to vote for the party that tried to privatize their Social Security, bornskeptic Apr 2013 #66

Hang out with some swing voters for a while. progressoid Apr 2013 #73

Not my point: Obama's SS plan won't be a Republican campaign target... brooklynite Apr 2013 #79

But Brooklyn isn't purple ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #106

It's NOT to ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #100

Five-dimensional chess, yes, we know. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #4

You left out the part where Obama gets his credibility back. Autumn Apr 2013 #7

As if it's about Obama Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #21

This is all about Obama, it's his offer. Autumn Apr 2013 #24

Then don't vote for him again Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #28

I don't intend to ever vote for him again. Not gonna happen. Autumn Apr 2013 #30

+1. robinlynne Apr 2013 #88

This has been the script every other time Renew Deal Apr 2013 #8

I wish I thought you were right, but I don't. I think this was just as big a blunder as it seems. Squinch Apr 2013 #9

He'll be much more diplomatic about it. SamReynolds Apr 2013 #10

Laugh? progressoid Apr 2013 #12

That's what I'm hoping for. silverweb Apr 2013 #13

Dreaming ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #15

Obama could submit a word for word copy of Ryan's budget and the Republicans alfredo Apr 2013 #19

Exactly ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #20

Republicans have become predictable. That is the nature of conservatism. alfredo Apr 2013 #25

Obama's proposal cuts SS and Medicare deeper than Ryan's proposal magical thyme Apr 2013 #50

Ryan will not play along because of the revenue. alfredo Apr 2013 #64

You're thinking short term. They're thinking 2016. magical thyme Apr 2013 #82

If we control the house and senate, the damage a right wing pres alfredo Apr 2013 #84

proposing cuts to social security just ahead of 2014 magical thyme Apr 2013 #86

EXACTLY! lobezen Apr 2013 #67

Not necessarily in this term. The pushback may be too strong. magical thyme Apr 2013 #83

excellent post, lobezen Carolina Apr 2013 #92

Why do folks keep saying this ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #107

link to the first Democrat to offer to cut SS? magical thyme Apr 2013 #113

You have that backwards ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #108

that's too fine a line for most people to notice magical thyme Apr 2013 #114

blaming "childish whiners" for the 2010 defeat carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #16

No it isn't. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #45

What evidence is there that Democrats stayed home? former9thward Apr 2013 #48

It's the "mushy middle" that generally accounts for mid-term losses Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #77

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #110

stop lying Doctor_J Apr 2013 #71

You are so right Carolina Apr 2013 #94

Which just goes Carolina Apr 2013 #93

moderate turnout was down in 2010, and fewer voted dem. Are those the whiners fishwax Apr 2013 #101

It is all about 2014. Any budget from Obama will be rejected, so why not do alfredo Apr 2013 #18

I want some of what you're smoking tularetom Apr 2013 #22

+1 lobezen Apr 2013 #72

Touche, tularetom Carolina Apr 2013 #95

Obama believes in chained CPI, and it will pass with the budget alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #23

Not sure it will get the votes -- those who are doing the voting are the ones whose gateley Apr 2013 #29

For a budget resolution to go into effect, it has to have 60 votes in the Senate. alfredo Apr 2013 #31

Personally, I'm tired of multi-dimensional chess NV Whino Apr 2013 #26

+1 lobezen Apr 2013 #68

I didn't think the GOP asked for the chained CPI -- it wasn't in Ryan's budget. gateley Apr 2013 #27

. ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #33

Don't you just want to pull your hair out? Aaaaargh! gateley Apr 2013 #36

or golf games Skittles Apr 2013 #38

+1 lobezen Apr 2013 #69

You need to learn to research more... Rosco T. Apr 2013 #39

Yes, Republicans are horrible treestar Apr 2013 #91

those who concede Carolina Apr 2013 #96

McConnell suggested it in November 2012... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #47

No, the GOP has been played.... Rosco T. Apr 2013 #61

I think even Obama knows he's been played... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #63

That sounds about right. At least I pray it is. I don't want them touching anyone's southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #32

ridiculous. What next obama playing 3 dimensional chess again? bowens43 Apr 2013 #35

delusion is rampant today - what is your prediction for the Senate? Another said 80 in an DrDan Apr 2013 #37

Anybody who thinks JEB Apr 2013 #40

Sorry, but I'm not buying it .... paleotn Apr 2013 #41

The Avengers has a more plausible plot. rug Apr 2013 #43

I hope so bluemarkers Apr 2013 #46

Oh, this is still that incredibly complex chess game Obama's playing? Roland99 Apr 2013 #49

In what world would this be ok? jopacaco Apr 2013 #51

What would he do, if, while he plays chess sulphurdunn Apr 2013 #52

Result: Republicans are blamed for the Sequester - AND - the loss of those Infrastructure jobs. nt patrice Apr 2013 #54

1. Let war criminals go. 2. Let criminal bankers go. 3. No single payer health care just1voice Apr 2013 #55

I'm afraid you have a long way to go. You're still in the denial phase. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #56

Oh? And how is "step 5" supposed to work without getting a budget through Congress? Maven Apr 2013 #57

I hope you are correct. n/t silvershadow Apr 2013 #58

Give the President some of what you're smoking.... tokenlib Apr 2013 #60

This is basically a twist on the "sit down and shut up you lefties" meme. reformist2 Apr 2013 #70

Right MFrohike Apr 2013 #74

Just what I was thinking all along. Kablooie Apr 2013 #75

Maybe, but if so he's just beating a long-deceased horse Scootaloo Apr 2013 #76

One would hope gaspee Apr 2013 #78

I love Una O'Connor. The Haters of Barack Obama & Hillary & Bill as Una O'Connor. graham4anything Apr 2013 #80

Where in Step 5 does an actual budget get passed? That's their goal here, a budget Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #81

+1 DCBob Apr 2013 #97

Night before last I believe it was R. Maddow interviewed D. Axelrod Tippy Apr 2013 #85

Kick. cliffordu Apr 2013 #87

Awww.... More 3 Dimensional Chess Bullshit. Stand and Fight Apr 2013 #89

We're up to 5a) already... Rosco T. Apr 2013 #90

I hope you're right. MBS Apr 2013 #98

But ... But ... But ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #99

To remind-Winning is forever. Not a specific day or week or month, but forever. graham4anything Apr 2013 #104

It wouldn't be a believable movie. Progressive dog Apr 2013 #105

Except that he doesn't work for us. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #109

If this is "strategy," BO's tried it before, and it hasn't worked yet. snot Apr 2013 #111

I think it wil happen very quietly. ucrdem Apr 2013 #117