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Liberal_Stalwart71

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64. Let me put it this way: So many on our side support Chris Christie in NJ. Anything's possible.

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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:45 AM

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why are so many on our side falling for this"scandal"? [View all] veganlush Jun 2013 OP

so you're perfectly happy to trade freedom for a political gain? bowens43 Jun 2013 #1

it's logs, not warrentless wire taps veganlush Jun 2013 #2

Wow. Do you even listen to yourself? Android3.14 Jun 2013 #3

so who should they track? veganlush Jun 2013 #8

They should track those that they have probable cause to track. No more no less. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #19

where does probable cause come from? veganlush Jun 2013 #44

That's not the definition of probable cause at all. premium Jun 2013 #49

The officer is policing a public event LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #56

why the strawman? veganlush Jun 2013 #61

There isn't any strawman. You are looking for exceptions and excuses. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #62

so there's no value veganlush Jun 2013 #63

Wow, premium Jun 2013 #20

Re: 4th Amendment: Let's not forget the word "unreasonable." WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #30

This right here is what makes me sad that you see premium Jun 2013 #33

I'm sorry you're sad, but in what way is it harming the innocent? WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #35

Just the fact that the govt is collecting data on innocent americans premium Jun 2013 #36

HOW IS IT HARMING ANYONE? WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #37

WHO THE FUCK CARES IF IT'S NOT HARMING INNOCENT AMERICANS? premium Jun 2013 #38

All right, then WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #39

Show us the probable cause for obtaining a blanket warrant premium Jun 2013 #40

You haven't answered a single one of my questions WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #41

And you refuse to show how there is probable cause for a warrant from premium Jun 2013 #42

There is no warrant WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #43

Knowing who you talk to, and when, is an invasion of privacy muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #60

Government actions does have to cause some type of harm treestar Jun 2013 #46

So you're ok with the NSA collecting the data premium Jun 2013 #47

Do you know about the doctrine of "standing?" treestar Jun 2013 #48

I agree with you Freddie Jun 2013 #52

The NSA is wasting valueable time and resources tracking innocent people ShadowLiberal Jun 2013 #65

No, they're not tracking anyone. They're keeping a database so that pnwmom Jun 2013 #22

Thank you for interjecting facts. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #24

That's a complete mischaracterization of what they're doing WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #32

Wow grammiepammie Jun 2013 #51

+1 andlor Jun 2013 #14

What freedom have you traded? Name it. WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #28

What freedom am I giving up? Are you like Piers Morgan, "this the WORST civil rights violation EVER" MH1 Jun 2013 #50

Obama is not off the hook in my book CountAllVotes Jun 2013 #4

I'm awaiting your better solution. veganlush Jun 2013 #9

Obama added court oversight back in, where bush had gone without it. veganlush Jun 2013 #10

There's more to it than that. brush Jun 2013 #12

Posters are lying about the facts. And, your calling us "un-American" is Cha Jun 2013 #58

Here's the important 2006 story. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #5

Mark Kline. pilar007 Jun 2013 #66

Probably kickin' himself in the rear. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #67

Because we evolved past sheep? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #6

Or did you just change herds? savalez Jun 2013 #54

yes, this is why we need to get rid of the Rs in Congress, they love and vote for this crap. Sunlei Jun 2013 #7

Its parent was the Patriot Act. The only D who voted against that was Russ Feingold, Myrina Jun 2013 #16

biz zaire, the usa crammed those laws in 10 days..now we have to spend trillions to feed the monster Sunlei Jun 2013 #18

The radar gun scans us all as we drive randr Jun 2013 #11

I'm not. I figured this was going on since back in bu$h years... Triana Jun 2013 #13

I'm not crazy about it Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #15

Well, considering they were monitoring the Tsarnaev's & still didn't stop the Boston bombing ... Myrina Jun 2013 #17

you nailed it CountAllVotes Jun 2013 #21

that's one case treestar Jun 2013 #23

Because they've been looking for reasons to hate Obama all along MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #25

and we have a winner!! dlwickham Jun 2013 #31

It's another trumped-up "scandal" Freddie Jun 2013 #53

all the other scandals fell apart so they called their buddy Glen Greenwald. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #57

Before that even..he's the guy who Cha Jun 2013 #59

uhhhh, because I have a verizon phone and i'm pissed off? markiv Jun 2013 #26

Wait till the big Benghazi scandal of 2020. bunnies Jun 2013 #27

I don't know, but it's odd that the same people on DU fall for these "scandals" every time. tridim Jun 2013 #29

That Tree is infected with worms. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #34

You mean there is gaming going on here! polynomial Jun 2013 #45

people have good reason creon Jun 2013 #55

Let me put it this way: So many on our side support Chris Christie in NJ. Anything's possible. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #64

The GOP is all in support of the Patriot Act UCmeNdc Jun 2013 #68