2016 Postmortem

djean111

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405. I am quite afraid of whatever it is that Hillary would mean by

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:49 PM

Oct 2013

-"let's get this done" - that is the bottom line. I am a liberal and a progressive, and she is basically a conservative. And the GOP did not stop obstructing Obama in his second term, and they will not stop working just as assiduously against Hillary. They have had a long time to build up hatred and resentment of Hillary and Bill, and the long knives will be out.
It is a catch-22 - yeah, she could do things by using executive orders, since a GOP house will hate her - but I am afraid of what she would do.
If you think Rush and all the other assholes will change their tune if Hillary gets elected - just look - they still feel Obama does not belong in the White House, and are quite open about it.
I feel we need a fresh face and a fresh perspective. And this far before the 2008 elections, no one had heard of Obama. I was a Hillary supporter back then, and now that I know more about her, I can no longer say that.
You will probably get your wish, you know, but for me, the lesser of two evils, if it is Hillary.
As a woman - I do not identify with her one little bit.
I would detest anyone thinking I voted for her just because she is a woman. As one who slogged through the sixties and onward, being treated like crap in the corporate world, I have learned that I cannot base anything on gender alone. I will not do that. Individual women can be just as crafty and mean-spirited as men, and I look at everyone as individuals, as far as gender goes.

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Why not? Wabbajack_ Jul 2013 #160

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No freshman Senator has ever become President? SheilaT Sep 2013 #230

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SKP, you're my bud, but no way would Warren be ready in 2016. Beacool Jul 2013 #44

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This........... Beacool Jul 2013 #58

Hillary LOST the election to Obama - not "yielded" karynnj Sep 2013 #200

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everybody says some wid stuff in the campaign Always Randy Sep 2013 #378

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thank you karynnj for your comment Always Randy Sep 2013 #287

Do you like the fact that Hillary was a war hawk on the Iraq War although she of all people JDPriestly Jul 2013 #85

thank you JDPriestly Always Randy Jul 2013 #98

I want Elizabeth Warren to run. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #122

there's no one cleaner than Elizabeth Always Randy Jul 2013 #129

has anyone run a poll model of how EW Always Randy Oct 2013 #416

I don't know. But I think she would do well. We need better banking regulation and most JDPriestly Oct 2013 #417

Elections are not won on seat of the pants feel good--- Always Randy Oct 2013 #420

Elizabeth Warren's poll numbers are rising. Hillary is much higher but peaking. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #421

Please provide the link that shows EW rising Always Randy Oct 2013 #422

Warren's poll numbers are rising. Hillary's have nowhere to do but down - and her history predicts JDPriestly Oct 2013 #423

OK --when do you think Elizabeth will announce? Always Randy Oct 2013 #431

I don't care whether she announces. I think we should draft her as a candidate. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #432

Is there a grass roots organization ready to do that Always Randy Oct 2013 #433

Remains to be seen. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #500

If she wins Iowa and New Hampshire I'll contribute to her campaign. But neither has announced, even. ancianita Aug 2014 #496

I'm with you on that Always Randy Aug 2014 #498

I think she is trying to win Iowa through procedural tinkering. Read that on DU JDPriestly Aug 2014 #499

Agreed that she's not good presidential material. From the standpoint of no international work and ancianita Aug 2014 #501

Ethically and morally i think Elizabeth Warren should have her face on Mt. Rushmore Always Randy Aug 2014 #506

She would not be a good candidate for the Supreme Court. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #511

The short answer is no, it doesn't bother me. Beacool Jul 2013 #115

Of course she is not interested now Always Randy Jul 2013 #119

I think Warren would win. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #121

ok----when will Elizabeth make the announcement Always Randy Jul 2013 #130

Has Hillary already announced? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #131

now she did Always Randy Apr 2015 #561

Obama did not announce in 2005 - nor in 2006 karynnj Sep 2013 #201

Oh I think he "announced" at the Democratic convention in Boston--- Always Randy Sep 2013 #291

What a bunch of bull. juajen Sep 2013 #210

They can make their money any way they want, but they will, if not consciously, then subconsciously JDPriestly Sep 2013 #228

Anyone who gets elected will owe a debt to big money contributors. juajen Sep 2013 #361

don't we all---even EW Always Randy Sep 2013 #393

thank you----do you think EW will announce for 2016 Always Randy Sep 2013 #292

No, I don't think she will run. juajen Sep 2013 #346

I don't know. I would like to see her run. I think she could attract a lot of independent, JDPriestly Sep 2013 #394

this is so right Always Randy Sep 2013 #363

Sorry, I'd MUCH rather someone like Elizabeth Warren sign or not sign a bill on H1B visa expansion cascadiance Oct 2013 #426

Well, then, how about a Rodham? That is what she is, you know? juajen Jul 2013 #92

Hillary is not my pick----she is electable over another Bush/Cheney Always Randy Jul 2013 #100

Were you talking to me? juajen Jul 2013 #168

she is just what those wackos in Congress need to see Always Randy Oct 2013 #413

When she lived in the White House, she was called Mrs. Clinton. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #135

There is an archaic need for men to claim women by encouraging or forcing them juajen Jul 2013 #169

No---Michelle Obama will be the new Prsident in 2024 Always Randy Jul 2013 #178

ok - are you the resurrection of graham4anything? karynnj Sep 2013 #343

We both know the answer to that one davidpdx Jul 2014 #469

Seems pretty obvious - too many similarities karynnj Jul 2014 #472

it is worse---I have no idea who this graham is Always Randy Jul 2014 #474

I'm reminded of why I never changed my last name SheilaT Sep 2013 #231

Sheila ---you might also be critical of Hillary about the Lewinsky issue Always Randy Sep 2013 #293

She is smarter than Bill, I agree. In fact she's smarter than most. Little Star Sep 2013 #301

Agreed. n/t whathehell Jul 2013 #106

I absolutely agree. She will niot get my support in any shape or form on point Sep 2013 #351

keep your friends close, and your enemies closer Always Randy Sep 2013 #366

There is no way I'll vote for Clinton in a primary. No way. nt stillwaiting Oct 2013 #401

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are you still on DU Always Randy Jun 2016 #576

How did most of those work in 2008 ? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #2

I agree with you--Obama had the better team Always Randy Jul 2013 #10

I think he will if Hillary is the Democratic Nominee but do you expect Obama to endorse Clinton PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #12

2016 is now Always Randy Jul 2013 #29

Obama had been a state senator. Beacool Jul 2013 #45

7% is not "barely" karynnj Sep 2013 #204

That was a good win, and I donated a small amt. (all I could afford) juajen Sep 2013 #212

Hillary is nemesis for the Republicans Always Randy Sep 2013 #295

I would vote for Obama again if I could Always Randy Sep 2013 #294

ugh Marblehead Jul 2013 #3

have you seen the poll numbers for Warren and Hillary in Massachusetts ? Always Randy Jul 2013 #20

No. protect our future Jul 2013 #5

Because 10 years without a new war MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #6

That's a very catchy phrase! polichick Jul 2013 #15

Thanks! I think it will work well for her. nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #19

manny ---thank you for the response--have you seen the Mass. poll for Eliizabeth Always Randy Jul 2013 #21

Warren will do fantastically MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #37

OK Manny----so we both like Elizabeth Warren Always Randy Jul 2013 #46

Only 39 months. Her candidacy is doomed. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #51

I am a big supporter of Elizabeth Warren. juajen Jul 2013 #89

thank you juajen Always Randy Jul 2013 #102

Agree. We are all counting on her to set an example of what a Senator is supposed to be. DhhD Jul 2013 #142

Was Obama equally unseasoned? Nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #108

Yep, but he was smart enough to choose Hillary for SOS, juajen Jul 2013 #172

and such a good choice Always Randy Jul 2013 #179

Is that you, Bill? polichick Sep 2013 #277

Do you read Taro cards or what? juajen Sep 2013 #388

I assume this could reflect Massachusetts reluctance to lose another Senator karynnj Sep 2013 #205

well MA is a dem stronghold Always Randy Sep 2013 #296

I am not referring to just getting a Democrat karynnj Sep 2013 #307

thank you-----I live next door in CT Always Randy Sep 2013 #317

Bullshit, but you already knew that. Beacool Jun 2014 #459

Hillary's stands against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #460

Did she initiate these wars or did Bush do it? Beacool Jun 2014 #461

She thought they were a good idea. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #462

If she had been president, or any other Democrat for that matter, Beacool Jun 2014 #463

Certainly, we can agree that most Democrats voted against attacking Iraq MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #464

Dude, go post another one of your witty threads. Beacool Jun 2014 #465

As the U.S. Senator from New York at the time of 9/11 Always Randy Jun 2014 #466

So, to be clear, you're thinking she did the right thing in voting to attack Iraq? nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #467

To be crystal clear---let's qualify it Always Randy Jul 2014 #476

I like Elizabeth too Always Randy Jul 2013 #7

Just because they're likeable, doesn't mean they're your friend. Wilms Jul 2013 #9

thank you Wilms Always Randy Jul 2013 #24

It's way too early. And hitching the party to a Clinton??? Wilms Jul 2013 #32

thank you for your continued responseI used to believe in "early" Always Randy Jul 2013 #39

So ---how far does the support for Warren go Always Randy Jul 2013 #11

Of course, I cannot, I suppose, choose to vote for anything but a Democrat in 2016, djean111 Jul 2013 #13

Thank you Djean Always Randy Jul 2013 #16

I don't think many of them will. djean111 Jul 2013 #28

thank you again Djean---in the past few days 2016 snuck up on us Always Randy Jul 2013 #33

I think at least some will, and will lie about it. Jim Lane Jul 2013 #50

Thank you Jim---I am OLD White and screaming liberal at age 67 Always Randy Jul 2013 #55

I thank you and Always Randy for your thoughtful input! djean111 Jul 2013 #57

I don't think many GOP women at all will vote for Hillary--after all, she killed Vince Foster! She Nay Sep 2013 #356

You forgot the allegation of her killing Always Randy Sep 2013 #375

Just a slight correction....I think you mean Ron Brown and not Edward Brown RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2014 #543

Thank you for the post and the correction it is RON not Edward Always Randy Dec 2014 #545

How dare you compare Hillary Clinton to dumbnuts? juajen Jul 2013 #90

I was responding to the "women will of course vote for a woman" meme. djean111 Jul 2013 #99

Dumb Presidents make dumb decisions. Brains are very important. juajen Jul 2013 #173

and more than likely they were being coached and groomed by a woman Always Randy Jul 2013 #180

Oh please. Way to twist around what I said. Feh. djean111 Jul 2013 #182

I can actually do "snide" very well, and I refute your accusation. juajen Sep 2013 #214

Refute away! djean111 Sep 2013 #218

I do beg your pardon if I didn't know you were a woman. juajen Sep 2013 #339

I am an old white male Always Randy Sep 2013 #367

In what way to you equate Hillary with "corporatism"? juajen Sep 2013 #213

The TPP, for example. Really, all I need. n/t djean111 Sep 2013 #215

That was a tad vague, don't you think? juajen Sep 2013 #217

Not if you have been keeping up with current events. djean111 Sep 2013 #219

The Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement seems to be a hard nut to crack. juajen Sep 2013 #347

I think a thread on the TPP would be good - but then again, perhaps a thread of its own djean111 Sep 2013 #348

Excuse me, I asked for no links. juajen Sep 2013 #390

If the TPP is indeed as bad as it seems to be, it will affect Hillary's presidential run. djean111 Sep 2013 #392

do you have a Always Randy Sep 2013 #395

the next election cycle is all about GENDER Always Randy Sep 2013 #396

not for this woman. djean111 Oct 2013 #397

If you are not supporting women Always Randy Oct 2013 #400

this type of civil discourse Always Randy Oct 2013 #398

I suggest you take a look at Emily's list.com Always Randy Apr 2015 #564

Hillary is the Republicans worst nightmare Always Randy Jul 2013 #103

I agree, it shouldn't be a gender issue davidpdx Jul 2013 #96

this is not a flawed assumption ---but rather one supported by the polls Always Randy Jul 2013 #104

Polls that are based on the assumption that davidpdx Jul 2013 #112

that is good----and the best part about the Democratic Party is Always Randy Jul 2013 #132

First of all Graham davidpdx Jul 2013 #141

Sorry I missed this---I am not "Graham" Always Randy Sep 2013 #374

present Always Randy Sep 2013 #389

please tell me who Graham is? Always Randy Oct 2013 #418

It must be killing you inside davidpdx Oct 2013 #419

nothing is killing me inside except the burrito I had last night Always Randy Oct 2013 #425

do you have polls supporting this Always Randy Sep 2013 #381

Unfortunately, it will be a "gender issue". juajen Sep 2013 #216

You are spot on!----A women President will also free men Always Randy Sep 2013 #300

Hey look ----I am from Connecticut --Eliizabeth Warren make a lot more sende to me geraphically Always Randy Jul 2013 #14

The polls always favor the entrenched old school powerful. Obama's numbers were low too. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #18

Hillary is not going to run?? Always Randy Jul 2013 #22

There are plenty of groups supporting her possible bid, but she hasn't announced. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #23

My respect for Hillary began in Bill's first campaign Always Randy Jul 2013 #25

That will be the problem. Hillary has all the corporate power on her side. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #86

If they're smart, it will be Christy. Paul will never make it. juajen Jul 2013 #94

The Republicans are a little short on gray matter---they are not smart enough Always Randy Jul 2013 #133

Yep, that's why I said "if they are smart". They love committing suicide. juajen Jul 2013 #171

Republicans---Folksy????/ yeah sure Always Randy Jul 2013 #105

Besides her stint on the board of WalMart when she was juajen Jul 2013 #167

Hillary ----without an announcement--has a team in place Always Randy Jul 2013 #26

BTW that's a superpac and not under Clinton's direct control. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #31

we are talking about one powerful , ruthless politico Always Randy Jul 2013 #35

take a look at this one Always Randy Jul 2013 #138

You know that it is much too early for her to announce. juajen Jul 2013 #174

as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow Always Randy Jul 2013 #56

Yep, that she is, and yep, she can be ruthless. To be top dog, it juajen Jul 2013 #91

It's obvious that a large segment of the media wants her to run - and win tularetom Jul 2013 #30

I understand you completely---is there anyone building a team to primary her? Always Randy Jul 2013 #34

Our owners will pick someone currently unknown to us, to run in 2016. RC Jul 2013 #38

Another "Change" candidate ... blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #66

That's what I'm thinking. RC Jul 2013 #77

The no Way. = DLC, Iraq war, Corporate enabler. Hillary propaganda people go away plz on point Jul 2013 #40

thank you ON Point -let us not play in to the Republican Party's hands on this Always Randy Jul 2013 #41

You act as if Hillary was the only democrat that supported the Iraq war! juajen Jul 2013 #93

She wasn't, but I won't vote for any of the others either on point Jul 2013 #117

Good luck finding that paragon of virtue! juajen Jul 2013 #170

More on Hillary as a U.S. Senator from New york Always Randy Jul 2013 #177

kick Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #43

Thank you-Dawson Always Randy Jul 2013 #48

Hillary is excellent on the social issues. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #49

you are exactly right Dawson Always Randy Jul 2013 #53

Oh, the Clinton's are "cultural warriors," all right: blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #68

that is a very good point Always Randy Jul 2013 #70

are you still on DU Always Randy Jun 2016 #575

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Don't You Worry---this is sport for HRC Always Randy Jul 2013 #52

Actually, what Lott said was worse. Beacool Jul 2013 #60

there is absolutely nothing in her history that says she won't run Always Randy Jul 2013 #62

Foreign money is ILLEGAL karynnj Oct 2013 #414

When they were at yale Always Randy Oct 2013 #424

some more about the Clintons Always Randy Jul 2013 #137

Interesting. Beacool Jul 2013 #139

Perot had a lot to do with that Rstrstx Jul 2013 #189

Excellent point Rstrstx Always Randy Jul 2013 #192

BILL WON Carolina Sep 2013 #224

Your opinion. Beacool Sep 2013 #335

you are right on Always Randy Sep 2013 #338

GHWB was in the high 30% s in the weeks before the election. karynnj Sep 2013 #318

I know ---the Clintons are pretty powerful Always Randy Sep 2013 #321

Will she bring that ''Hope and Change" we were suppose to swallow? She's no progressive folks. YOHABLO Jul 2013 #59

Hola Yo hablo Always Randy Jul 2013 #61

From my perspective, Hillary is unelectable. Maedhros Jul 2014 #480

I certainly admire your tenacity Always Randy Jul 2014 #485

Bottom line: at some point, Democratic Presidential candidates Maedhros Jul 2014 #486

So ---in the meantime you accept the current minimum wage? Always Randy Jul 2014 #488

No. And also, I don't accept the TPP, or drone warfare, or the Africom deployments, Maedhros Jul 2014 #490

I am still with you on all of that Always Randy Jul 2014 #491

What does Nader have to do with anything? Maedhros Jul 2014 #492

there were those who felt as you do then Always Randy Jul 2014 #493

I refuse to be bullied into voting for someone who will work against my interests. Maedhros Aug 2014 #494

i agree with you wholeheartedly Always Randy Aug 2014 #497

Oh hell no 4dsc Jul 2013 #63

I completely understand how you feel Always Randy Jul 2013 #64

We oppose HRC and will fight against her nomination. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #65

HRC: Queen of the Blue Dogs/Third Way/"New DEMS"/DLC/"Centrism"/Aristocracy/1% blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #69

that's good---who is your candidate Always Randy Jul 2013 #71

I'm with you, blkmusclmachine. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #114

Who is this "we" you are talking about? juajen Jul 2013 #175

Barack and Michelle owe the Clintons fuck all. n.t Whisp Jul 2013 #67

I can understand if you have been offended---have you? Always Randy Jul 2013 #72

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Yep, I love Grayson. juajen Jul 2013 #95

She's a DLC, 3rd way, corporate shill. Apophis Jul 2013 #76

thank you Apohis yes ---but she is our corporate shill Always Randy Jul 2013 #80

I'm tired of having it about winning. Apophis Jul 2013 #83

with 39 months to go --who has the team Always Randy Jul 2013 #107

wow. "she is our corporate shill" thanks. that says everything. cali Jul 2013 #188

thank you Cali Always Randy Jul 2013 #193

We are still paying for Bill Clinton's huge mistakes in signing NAFTA and signing away JDPriestly Jul 2013 #84

I was not aware that Elizabeth has announced Always Randy Jul 2013 #109

Add one more to that davidpdx Jul 2014 #470

thank you Always Randy Jul 2014 #475

Absoluteliy right! juajen Jul 2013 #87

The why: Elizabeth Warren has not even hinted she's running for President. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #88

Elizabeth Warren should be part of the Decomcratic infrastructure Always Randy Jul 2013 #110

I agree. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #118

you have an *ahem, interesting way of wording your thoughts... ---- Whisp Jul 2013 #125

I don't think i understand---should i say thank you Always Randy Jul 2013 #127

That's the reality check that the Left chooses to ignore. Beacool Jul 2013 #116

that's ok ---they are still on the same team as us Always Randy Jul 2013 #120

No Elizabeth Warren is NOT running for president Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2015 #572

gramham4anything is that you? davidpdx Jul 2013 #97

That crossed my mind too :-) djean111 Jul 2013 #113

Where is Graham? Beacool Jul 2013 #153

He got tombstoned a while back. Thank god. nt Nay Sep 2013 #357

I didn't know. Beacool Sep 2013 #358

some people think I am GRaham Always Randy Sep 2013 #380

My first thought as well...n/t ms liberty Jul 2013 #124

I would rec this but it has been attacked by the haters. liberal N proud Jul 2013 #101

I like your signature on tolerance Always Randy Jul 2013 #111

My guess is HRC is the best this party will nominate... polichick Jul 2013 #123

what we really need is another 3 or 4 elections of Democrats in the White House Always Randy Jul 2013 #128

The Obamas dont owe the clintons anything Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #134

thank you for your post--- Always Randy Jul 2013 #136

Keeping the old girl relevant??????? Beacool Jul 2013 #140

Well I am sure glad that I didn't say that about Hillary Always Randy Jul 2013 #143

lol your histrionics are amusing Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #144

Dustin---let me ask you this Always Randy Jul 2013 #145

seriously? Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #156

damned autofill Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #158

I still don't get it Always Randy Jul 2013 #161

Dustin---check my post today on Michelle Obama---tell me what you think Always Randy Jul 2013 #146

Dude, you have no clue............. Beacool Jul 2013 #147

hey ---that is a good topic Always Randy Jul 2013 #148

Randy, I got no time to waste with this guy. Beacool Jul 2013 #150

addios mi amiga Always Randy Jul 2013 #151

hold the mayo on that sandwich toots Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #159

How shall we describe ourselves on this site Always Randy Jul 2013 #165

Hey Dustin ---we are doing a little early analysis ---help us out Always Randy Jul 2013 #149

lets see if she even wins the nomination irst Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #155

Rolling Stone had it right. AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #264

Same here DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #152

That'll be difficult. Beacool Jul 2013 #154

and if she decided to make a stink DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #227

Hillary's voting record has was even less acceptable to me than Obama's. snot Jul 2013 #157

OK Snot--thank you for the post Always Randy Jul 2013 #166

I don't think Hillary will win those 6 states in 2016 Hippo_Tron Sep 2013 #297

Good analysis Hippo--But Hillary WILL make those Red States purple more than Obama could have Always Randy Sep 2013 #306

m'kay AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #176

Yes, if she is the ticket............... UCmeNdc Jul 2013 #181

No thanks. Splinter Cell Jul 2013 #183

thank you Splinter Always Randy Jul 2013 #184

Give me a break Splinter Cell Jul 2013 #185

OK--Rand Paul is in New Hamshire today with TEd Cruz Always Randy Jul 2013 #186

yeah, hilly is inevitable. been there. done that. fuck that. cali Jul 2013 #187

Agree, I prefer a progressive like Warren or Sherrod Brown mvd Jul 2013 #191

thank you mvd --I think Obama would have been able to a lot more if we didn't lose the house in 2010 Always Randy Jul 2013 #195

Well it seems from the beginning President Obama didn't want.. mvd Jul 2013 #196

Thank you again Cali---I'm really into seeing Democrats win Always Randy Jul 2013 #194

Here is an interesting list: Democrats that voted yes for the Iraq War juajen Sep 2013 #360

there was a colosssal lie being told to the cou ntry at this time Always Randy Sep 2013 #377

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Cali davidpdx Jul 2014 #471

Let's keep the Rs guessing and spending for many years to come. Sunlei Sep 2013 #198

Just say No. bigwillq Sep 2013 #199

I understand ---and respect your "NO" to Hillary but...... Always Randy Sep 2013 #206

I don't care if Hillary is a dead-lock to win in 2016... Chan790 Sep 2013 #202

Is a new Republican President a shortcut to your goals--- Always Randy Sep 2013 #207

I'd ask you the same question. Chan790 Sep 2013 #209

OK --let's take this apart --piece by piece---Appointment of the next Supreme Court Justice Always Randy Sep 2013 #235

You chose the wrong topic. Chan790 Sep 2013 #248

Kate Winslet just called Always Randy Sep 2013 #252

Really ???? SamKnause Sep 2013 #203

Perhaps Ted Cruz or Rand Paul Always Randy Sep 2013 #208

She understands how to work the system. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #221

People said the same Carolina Sep 2013 #223

What? Carolina Sep 2013 #225

Good Morning Ms Carolina----What am I smoking? Not Acapulco Gold--take a look at my brand Always Randy Sep 2013 #237

And to all those citations, Carolina Sep 2013 #239

how shall we fare in downticket if we don't support the leader Always Randy Sep 2013 #241

non sequitor Carolina Sep 2013 #244

OK Carolina---is your answer "stay home" on Election day if Hillary is the nominee Always Randy Sep 2013 #245

you are definitely putting the cart before horse Carolina Sep 2013 #271

Joe Biden is responsible for giving the job to Clarence "Long Dong Silver" Thomas warrant46 Sep 2013 #303

that was exactly my point Carolina Sep 2013 #311

I agree with you warrant46 Sep 2013 #312

Hello Carolina---thank you again Always Randy Sep 2013 #319

I think Hillary has a good chance of winning cash__whatiwant Sep 2013 #226

Thank you Cash---Hillary playing dirty? Always Randy Sep 2013 #238

Y es cash__whatiwant Sep 2013 #328

you are so right on that Always Randy Sep 2013 #337

Who needs to play the weak angle when you can be openly complicit and TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #438

The truly scary thing about all this SheilaT Sep 2013 #232

Hi Sheila---thank you for your response--Here is a Conservative spin from the Daily Beast Always Randy Sep 2013 #240

Well if a Republican conservative columnist at the Daily Beast SheilaT Sep 2013 #265

have you seen any of the work done by "Ready for Hillary" Always Randy Sep 2013 #281

This woman votes policies, not personalities - even female personalities. polichick Sep 2013 #236

Au contrar Ms Polichik---check in on Emily's list and a new site listed below Always Randy Sep 2013 #242

This woman, as in I, can only... polichick Sep 2013 #243

Thank you Polichik--who is your candidate Always Randy Sep 2013 #246

Nobody has said they're running... polichick Sep 2013 #247

OK ----what is you opinion of Always Randy Sep 2013 #249

I don't have an opinion of them as candidates... polichick Sep 2013 #250

Well the "good old boys" club hasn't done too well at this Always Randy Sep 2013 #253

That old "electable" story has been used to elevate corporate candidates... polichick Sep 2013 #256

If you recall Hillary was the US Senator from New York on 9/11 Always Randy Sep 2013 #259

Sorry, not buying the old DLC story about electability and idealism, etc... polichick Sep 2013 #261

maybe we are on the same page Always Randy Sep 2013 #268

I don't think she'll run anyway - she probably feels... polichick Sep 2013 #269

if the winds were hurrican level she would not stop Always Randy Sep 2013 #270

I guess she could try to fashion herself into an anti-war populist. :) polichick Sep 2013 #272

Polichick you are so right Always Randy Sep 2013 #275

I was kidding - who would buy HRC as anti-war populist? polichick Sep 2013 #276

People change Always Randy Sep 2013 #278

have you had a chance to check out Wendy Davis or Allison Grimes yet Always Randy Sep 2013 #369

Thanks for those links Always Randy..... Little Star Sep 2013 #304

You are welcome Little Star Always Randy Sep 2013 #309

I liked it very much. In fact I started a thread.... Little Star Sep 2013 #314

I just looked at the site Always Randy Sep 2013 #315

I would love to see Elizabeth Warren as chief executive! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #251

so would I Always Randy Sep 2013 #255

Simply, No. 2banon Sep 2013 #257

Ahhhhhhhhh---Frida Always Randy Sep 2013 #260

Frida kahlo is a favorite of mine Always Randy Oct 2013 #430

down ticket thinking should let our intellect control our emotions Always Randy Sep 2013 #258

She is a horrible decision maker. No Thanks! Whisp Sep 2013 #262

oh yeah AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #263

Thank you Atomic Kitten for your response Always Randy Sep 2013 #267

not my quote - ask the author AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #273

well --it's brilliant anyway----in Hillary's favor Always Randy Sep 2013 #274

Her bash level here on DU seems to be lower than nationwide Always Randy Sep 2013 #266

That's not a 65% approval rate. That is 65% who say they would vote for her in the primary at this musicblind Sep 2013 #362

Yes --I do Always Randy Sep 2013 #384

Well, I'm not afraid to say it... Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #279

thank you Auntie---I think there is about 20% on DU that hate her Always Randy Sep 2013 #280

Seems like only that 20% post on here. Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #313

well sometimes people can not accept reality Always Randy Sep 2013 #316

That's nothing new. Beacool Sep 2013 #344

Nice to have someone confirm that! Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #345

She and Bill love banks and wars. What more could Democrats want? JDPriestly Sep 2013 #298

Yes I like her too---which election cycle are we talking about? Always Randy Sep 2013 #299

Your post illustrates the problem Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #302

thank you D I K Always Randy Sep 2013 #305

OK --just saying---suppose the Koch Bros Always Randy Sep 2013 #334

Let's worry about 2014 FIRST. 4dsc Sep 2013 #325

I am starting to think she is not the shoo-in we are to believe she is, djean111 Sep 2013 #326

Hello djean111 --thank you for posting Always Randy Sep 2013 #330

I am under the impression that one of the reasons she is being touted is that she already has a war djean111 Sep 2013 #333

thank you for your response Always Randy Sep 2013 #336

Lets worry about BOTH brooklynite Sep 2013 #327

thank you brooklynite Always Randy Sep 2013 #331

you are right Always Randy Sep 2013 #359

Hello 4dsc Always Randy Sep 2013 #329

thank you 4dsc ---2014 is the new 2016 Always Randy Sep 2013 #332

this post is getting more visits and replies than I thought possible Always Randy Sep 2013 #340

your ty posts make up for over half. Whisp Sep 2013 #341

shameless AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #342

Well--you might think that, Atomic Kitten Always Randy Sep 2013 #352

constructive engagement Always Randy Sep 2013 #355

What a load. HappyMe Sep 2013 #349

I can understand how you feel Always Randy Sep 2013 #350

The Obama's owe the Clinton's nothing. Whisp Sep 2013 #368

Yes Whisp--your's may be "justifiable" anger Always Randy Sep 2013 #370

Obama couldn't do it without a Clinton... Whisp Sep 2013 #371

this is not a black man/white man thing Whisp Always Randy Sep 2013 #372

You will never convince me, and many others, that Whisp Sep 2013 #373

I understand Always Randy Sep 2013 #376

OK---ket's talk about legacy Always Randy Sep 2013 #383

You may find the thought offensive but Always Randy Oct 2013 #415

old wine in old bottles madrchsod Sep 2013 #353

I am sometimes curious about the genesis of comments on this blog Always Randy Sep 2013 #354

Seriously, and asked with no sarcasm or rancor - is ginning up support for Hillary your job? djean111 Oct 2013 #403

and without rancor or sarcasm as well Always Randy Oct 2013 #404

I am quite afraid of whatever it is that Hillary would mean by djean111 Oct 2013 #405

yes---on women being crafty and mean spirited Always Randy Oct 2013 #406

I am (rightly, I believe) worried she will use that bully pulpit for social security reforms djean111 Oct 2013 #407

Since Warren WON'T be running, what will you do? brooklynite Sep 2013 #387

I have the same information --but I give the emotional support to those EW supporters Always Randy Sep 2013 #391

Come 2014 there won't be many R's left...Thank God and President Obama Tippy Sep 2013 #364

Oh I hope you are so right Always Randy Sep 2013 #365

oh yes ---the failure of the Clinton impeachment Always Randy Sep 2013 #386

Well it looks like CNN does not want Hillary to be President Always Randy Sep 2013 #379

give it up. Whisp Oct 2013 #399

Thank you Whisp --I think that is a good opinion, but Always Randy Oct 2013 #402

thank you Always Randy Feb 2014 #447

this was from Oct '13----- Always Randy Mar 2014 #449

Good Morning Whisp Always Randy Jun 2014 #458

Nancy Pelosi: Hillary Clinton Would Be More Prepared For White House Than Obama, Bush- Always Randy Sep 2013 #385

update Novemeber 7 2013 Always Randy Nov 2013 #434

Your first point is exactly why she will lose. You're focusing on personalities, ie 'the unbeatable grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #437

all very good goals Always Randy Feb 2014 #439

There is a school of thought.... sendero Feb 2014 #441

Sendero--thank you for a well thought out reply Always Randy Feb 2014 #446

Hillary is not the 'Evil-Anti-Elizabeth-Warren'. Divide and Conquer McCamy Taylor Mar 2014 #450

I apologize in advance Always Randy Mar 2014 #452

i Would Support Hillary 2016 Corey_Baker08 Mar 2014 #454

I know there are a lot of people on here Always Randy Mar 2014 #457

Her team was "unbeatable" the last time, too. EEO Jun 2014 #468

I agree with you----Obama really had his stuff together to beat HRC Always Randy Jul 2014 #477

I was a Biden supporter before it became a two horse race in 2008. EEO Jul 2014 #482

kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2014 #473

thank you William Always Randy Jul 2014 #478

Response to the original post: northoftheborder Jul 2014 #479

That's fine and dandy, but: DFW Jul 2014 #487

You wrote three paragraphs Scootaloo Aug 2014 #502

You are exactly right---it is from the position of keen observer that I write Always Randy Aug 2014 #507

wait a minute Always Randy Aug 2014 #509

Against a Republican? Sure. Against other Democrats? Good question Scootaloo Aug 2014 #510

I think I've got this now Always Randy Aug 2014 #515

Go Hillary! !! chrisstopher Aug 2014 #503

I was shocked that the OP wasn't signed "Third-Way Manny" RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #504

another cheerleader thread for Hillary? RedstDem Aug 2014 #505

I remember hearing of Hillary Clinton's inevitability in 2008. This is all theory and speculation. EEO Aug 2014 #508

Theory, yes. Speculation, no. brooklynite Aug 2014 #512

Theory, yes. Speculation, yes. EEO Aug 2014 #513

Speculation (noun): the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. brooklynite Aug 2014 #514

A theory is merely a group of tested speculations. EEO Aug 2014 #517

Thank you for that clarification Always Randy Aug 2014 #521

Yes it is a lot of theory but not much speculation Always Randy Aug 2014 #518

She needs to make the case, and not just run on "inevitability" Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #516

Point to a Clinton supporter who calls her victory inevitable. brooklynite Aug 2014 #519

Right. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #520

not so today Always Randy Apr 2015 #567

and we deserve a better choice for SCOTUS than Scalia Always Randy Aug 2014 #522

Herble derble derble dooooo!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #523

Primary---oh yes Eric Cantor went to one of those in Virginia a little while ago Always Randy Aug 2014 #524

Right, whatever. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #525

Warren thank you for your interest in this Always Randy Aug 2014 #527

Actually, you guess wrong. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #528

I seem to detact a dash of rancor in your comments Always Randy Aug 2014 #530

This thing lumbers, it doesn't dash. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #531

If only DU could be the sole vote Always Randy Dec 2014 #537

It took you 3 months to come up with that? Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #539

thee were no surprises to me in mid term results Always Randy Dec 2014 #546

Im out here in the actual world, and I can tell you she's not generating a ton of enthusiasm, yet. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #547

here are some real world things that I see Always Randy Dec 2014 #548

I'm sure she is. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #549

the season is upon us Always Randy Apr 2015 #553

but it does reinforce GOTV Always Randy Apr 2015 #554

Hillary Needs A Story tgards79 Aug 2014 #532

You are right ---she needs a lot of new people too--i am hoping she picks the right vp Always Randy Aug 2014 #533

No one will challenge her? JaydenD Aug 2014 #534

first of all ---thank you for your response Always Randy Aug 2014 #535

Can't really say until the field is known. JaydenD Aug 2014 #536

I would like to update this conversation Always Randy Apr 2015 #565

this is another good take on Jeb and Hillary Always Randy Dec 2014 #538

So much wrong; so little time. area51 Dec 2014 #540

wrong time Always Randy Dec 2014 #541

I would like to revisit this now with you and as the election comes closer Always Randy Apr 2015 #563

You win on BIG, BOLD, DIFFERENCE-MAKING dynamics and themes. Her very candidacy is HISTORIC. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #542

Thank you for the post RB Always Randy Dec 2014 #544

I think HRC is doing that Always Randy Apr 2015 #562

Revisit of a popular thread Always Randy Apr 2015 #550

"The women vote coming from the entire country will be overwhelmingly for Hillary" area51 Apr 2015 #555

which part is insulting Always Randy Apr 2015 #556

Go Hillary! workinclasszero Apr 2015 #557

yes in deedy----and we need her to appoint the new SCOTUS Always Randy Apr 2015 #558

Thats for sure eh? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #559

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hillary gobears10 Apr 2015 #571

K&R RandySF Oct 2015 #573

Great post Gothmog Oct 2015 #574