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Hippo_Tron

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37. Christie is a lot more dangerous than Bush in some ways, less in others
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:00 AM
Nov 2013

On economic issues, Bush campaigned from a place that was far more moderate than Mitt Romney. Christie can't do that because he's going to be forced to the right by the Teabaggers, much the way Romney was.

OTOH, he's the popular Governor of a big Democratic northeastern state who spoke prime-time at his party's convention and went on to win re-election in a landslide.

Bush "won" the presidency with the south and the plains states and squeaking by in a few swing states. Christie gets the south and the plains states by default, because the south has become drastically more Republican since the Clinton years. Hillary MIGHT have a chance in Arkansas and West Virginia, but that doesn't even offset New Jersey's 14 electoral votes that Christie almost certainly puts in play.

Christie could also seriously compete in Pennsylvania and that along with his home state puts us on serious defense. If the Democrat can force the Republican to give up on Pennsylvania relatively early (as Obama has done twice) the electoral college odds are highly in their favor. But if they're defending it up until the last second, like Kerry was, they're playing a defensive game and most likely going to lose.

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Exactly. vi5 Nov 2013 #1
Irony that we should be hoping that the Tea Party torpedoes him in the primary Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2013 #2
The political environment is much more fluid now, than in 2000. Course corrections will be made Ninga Nov 2013 #3
The next test for Christie is 2014. Which GOP governors will use him for their reelection Ninga Nov 2013 #4
Yes, I agree Christie should not be underestimated. He's like GW Bush - only a lot smarter. He is Cal33 Nov 2013 #5
They fell hard for the oldest political ruse known..He portrays himself as a regular guy Ninga Nov 2013 #6
YEP - "taking charge in DC" will be the new "guy you would like to have a beer with" Cosmocat Nov 2013 #10
Thank you thank thank you JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #29
I liken him to Cheney with a charm-school education. lastlib Nov 2013 #11
New Jersey Democrats fucking ENDORSED him. djean111 Nov 2013 #26
I don't underestimate him at all. BlueMTexpat Nov 2013 #7
Vet the teacher exboyfil Nov 2013 #28
K&R Tippy Nov 2013 #8
Sorry to answer twice, but here is a bit of interesting BlueMTexpat Nov 2013 #9
I think Christie is overrated davidpdx Nov 2013 #12
Yes Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #13
While your points are good, I harken back to W. Bush, his background, and what hurt him or not when Ninga Nov 2013 #14
I don't think a comparison between Bush Jr. and Christy can be made davidpdx Nov 2013 #20
At the end of the day Romney loved money more than power exboyfil Nov 2013 #31
Agree! UCmeNdc Nov 2013 #15
We know Christie--and Bush did it in the age before YouTube and Twitter. Arkana Nov 2013 #16
I agree Gothmog Nov 2013 #33
I agree libodem Nov 2013 #17
I wouldn't trust him in the shit house with a muzzle on hollowdweller Nov 2013 #18
Yet we are in a loop where this character is considered to be moderate TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #19
I think he is riding the coat tails of Tony Soprano tavernier Nov 2013 #21
He could be but, alas, W had the fledgling Tea Nutters on his side ... Myrina Nov 2013 #22
Christie is very dangerous. He's smart, canny, and likable. apnu Nov 2013 #23
Jeb's last name is poison exboyfil Nov 2013 #34
Likely unless the teabaggers have another rabbit to pull (nt) apnu Nov 2013 #36
Christie has zero chance. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, both Pauls, Cruz, etc. are all against him. stevenleser Nov 2013 #24
No argument with your reasoning. For some reason, right now, I am more inclined to think Ninga Nov 2013 #25
Most of those people hated Romney, I think. djean111 Nov 2013 #27
It was half and half. And almost all of the half that hated him came on board after the nomination. stevenleser Nov 2013 #30
Sandy Amnesia HockeyMom Nov 2013 #32
Double Down and the Romney VP selection memo are a road map for the Democrats Gothmog Nov 2013 #35
Christie is a lot more dangerous than Bush in some ways, less in others Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #37
Christie reminds me of Rush Limpbaugh Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #38
I seem to remember Christie vacationing in Disneyworld during a massive blizzard... krispos42 Nov 2013 #39
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