2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Elizabeth Warren [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... and that is a BIPARTISAN sentiment, not just of the so-called "far left" that non-corporatist issues and people keep getting dismissed as.
And I speak as one that does not want term limits, but I understand the sentiment that favors them.
I want an experienced politician that will provide us with the reform that corporatists of both parties have blocked us from doing for so many years with corrupt legislation and pruning of who can get in to office these days. But that "experienced" politician (if you only count political experience as "experience" doesn't exist for those that represent the newer generation and those that have been left out of the process *intentionally* over the years by the controlling corporatist elements that have provided the rules that have lead to this messed up economy we live in now.
I therefore would submit that given that vacuum, we need to expand what we define as needed "experience" for those we want to run and win office these days, and I think I share that opinion with those that support term limits amongst others. We need Elizabeth Warren's of the world to provide that combination of political experience AS WELL as experience that our current politicians don't have in areas that we need policy changes to speak for those that aren't necessarily in the 1% elite.
DeBlasio isn't a socialist any more than Obama is. But his message in the campaign echoed with the voting public in contradiction to the "annointed" choices that the corporatist party elements wanted. And of course you conveniently avoided commenting on how a socialist (and she COMPLETELY defines herself as one!) like Sawant would win in Seattle over an "experienced" Democratic incumbent on their city council. The voting public really didn't have a choice that spoke for them more than what DeBlasio offered. That also reflects the problem with American politics when you have the only ones that are allowed to contend with the annointed corporatist selections to be ones that are "tainted" like Anthony Weiner was. I respect that DeBlasio gave their voters the chance to speak out against the stop and frisk policy that so many voters there saw as a need to fix. Not being a NYC resident, I don't want to speak for him more than they might here, but it does seem obvious that the so-called "obvious" choices that some would make HRC to be aren't as "obvious" as they used to be. We need to use this as an opportunity to allow the Democratic Party constituents to speak up and be heard by many new voices, some of which we might select to run in 2014 and 2016.