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JoePhilly

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22. Maybe Obama hates gay people.

Tue May 8, 2012, 05:27 PM

May 2012

Or ... and I'm just spit balling here ...

Maybe Obama is considering that today in NC, the GOP is trying to pass an amendment to their constitution which would prevent gay marriage.

And ... he's also thinking that he won NC in 2008, and that doing so helped him win the election in 2008.

And maybe he's thinking that winning a state like NC will be easier if he does not pick this fight right now. I mean let's face it ... its not like he's going to be able to get Gay Marriage approved in the next 6 months.

He ended DADT ... he's instructed the administration to NOT defend DOMA as it heads to the Supreme Court.

Perhaps ... just perhaps ... he's trying to guide this issue through the political field of land mines that exists.

Or not. Maybe he just hates gay people.

btw ... earlier today ... my wife, our 18 year old son, and I , voted against Amendment one in NC. It was my son's first opportunity to vote. He voted for Obama in the Dem primary, and AGAINST Amendment one.

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If you are not for FULL AND IMMEDIATE EQUALITY FOR ALL AMERICANS - YOU ARE A BIGOT [View all] dbackjon May 2012 OP

And it is ironic that my original post was alered for "Hate Speech" dbackjon May 2012 #1

Bravo! It's time we started calling out this bigotry and hatred, regardless of its party. LonePirate May 2012 #2

If you mean all Americans, why not list ALL those without equality? Lionessa May 2012 #3

All is all - no list required. DURHAM D May 2012 #4

Except he's clearly only upset about one type of injustice. Lionessa May 2012 #6

What is disingenuous is you trying to belittle my rights dbackjon May 2012 #9

The rights you are clearly concerned about are in my list of equality needs, so bullshit! Lionessa May 2012 #10

An endless complainer, exactly the people who are eating crow now. nt cecilfirefox May 2012 #43

No they aren't so much as the states' rights aspect is starting to sink in. Lionessa May 2012 #46

To mention one and not comment on any other Fearless May 2012 #31

Though some of your initial point is accurate, Lionessa May 2012 #33

Divide and conquer ... GeorgeGist May 2012 #8

"ALL" means "all." Pab Sungenis May 2012 #35

Who is going to determine who is or is not supporting immediate and full equality rhett o rick May 2012 #5

Obama has not declared his support for full and immediate equality for All Americans dbackjon May 2012 #7

I am also sick and tired of the bigotry, racism and misogynism, but rhett o rick May 2012 #11

So just give him a pass? dbackjon May 2012 #14

What is a "pass"? I think we should hold his feet to the fire. rhett o rick May 2012 #15

That, and call him what he is dbackjon May 2012 #16

I totally agree you should let him know how hurtful his stance is, and I agree it is. rhett o rick May 2012 #19

If the hatred fits... Pab Sungenis May 2012 #36

Given the nature of those who oppose him, wouldn't that be the kiss of death for full and patrice May 2012 #17

No, it wouldn't be dbackjon May 2012 #18

Boy, you paint with a big brush. Thats your opinion and a minority one, for sure. demosincebirth May 2012 #12

So inequality for All Americans is ok? dbackjon May 2012 #13

You are posing a false choice. For most people it's not as simple as you are saying. They patrice May 2012 #20

No - one should never be tolerant of intolerance dbackjon May 2012 #21

I'm trying to point out that without actual detailed factual information about what people/anyone patrice May 2012 #25

Maybe Obama hates gay people. JoePhilly May 2012 #22

Thank you for your vote dbackjon May 2012 #23

You are welcome ... and ... JoePhilly May 2012 #24

It's politics. Please read up on Self-fulfilling Prophecy. patrice May 2012 #26

To be fair... Fearless May 2012 #34

True abelenkpe May 2012 #27

It would be great. dbackjon May 2012 #29

The President's lack of moral clarity and courage on this paricular issue... YoungDemCA May 2012 #28

Particularly when it comes to forking over donations no doubt! Fearless May 2012 #32

An injustice to anyone is an injustice to all. Bake May 2012 #30

I see that Pres Obama has come out in support of gay marrage. Do you retract your "bigot" comment? rhett o rick May 2012 #37

I am happy that he finally now supports it. dbackjon May 2012 #38

"He still thinks it is ok for states to discriminate against gays and lesbians." Time to throw the rhett o rick May 2012 #67

Then why did he say it is up to the states? dbackjon May 2012 #68

Sorry but you lost creditability. He has never even hinted he believes it "is ok for states to rhett o rick May 2012 #69

When he says that it is up to the states to decide, TriMera May 2012 #70

So you agree with dbackjon that Pres Obama is a bigot? nm rhett o rick May 2012 #77

I believe that anyone who does not support full TriMera May 2012 #79

The OP says that the President is a bigot which makes me wonder of the motives rhett o rick May 2012 #80

Wow. cliffordu May 2012 #74

And he still does not support full and immediate equality for all Americans dbackjon May 2012 #47

I see the typical fools are out with the their negativity and their garbage. The rest of us are Pisces May 2012 #39

Fool? Nice manners dbackjon May 2012 #40

And I stand by my "Fools" remark meaning all of the people that rec'd your post. Pisces May 2012 #41

Thanks for reminding me to rec his post. TriMera May 2012 #42

You are not worth my time - ignore people like you dbackjon May 2012 #45

Ha. Let me serve you come crow.... Here ya go, open wide!! nt cecilfirefox May 2012 #44

You're all over the board with this "eat crow" crap, aren't ya? n/t TriMera May 2012 #48

How mature of you. dbackjon May 2012 #49

*plonk* racaulk May 2012 #75

WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL OPEN AND NOT LOCKED?!?!?! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #50

there are no moderators anymore, but hosts maddezmom May 2012 #51

I have alerted this thread twice and have lost both times. This thread is divisive and unproductive. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #52

It is the truth dbackjon May 2012 #55

IT IS NOT THE TRUTH, and you know it! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #56

So being against full equality makes you what? dbackjon May 2012 #59

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #61

If you had half a brain, you'd see this thread was started yesterday dbackjon May 2012 #64

But, you're ok with this thread... TriMera May 2012 #53

Ponies!! Ponies for all! dbackjon May 2012 #57

I have not seen that thread and no, I don't agree with it. Why is it so hard for us to unite? Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #58

You posted in that thread and even told the OP TriMera May 2012 #62

If you don't agree with it why did you recommend it? fishwax May 2012 #66

Truth hurts dbackjon May 2012 #54

It's bullshit! Your entire thread is nothing but bullshit after the president came out in FAVOR of Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #60

I don't think being a liberal stalwart means what you think it means dbackjon May 2012 #63

i'll tell you one thing. running around calling people who are on your side bigots over and over dionysus May 2012 #91

Telling LGBT people that you don't give a fuck TriMera May 2012 #94

who ever said that? dionysus May 2012 #95

If you are for full and immediate equality for All Americans dbackjon May 2012 #96

i AM for that. how do you accomplish it? you've got 3 options. dionysus May 2012 #97

By first declaring your full support dbackjon May 2012 #100

Hide thread is your friend. n/t TriMera May 2012 #65

So do you have amuse bouche May 2012 #71

Well then I'm not a bigot treestar May 2012 #72

Wasn't one of the first things President Obama did treestar May 2012 #73

That didn't happen, same-sex Federal spouses do not have equal rights obamanut2012 May 2012 #81

You can edit your post. joshcryer May 2012 #76

Oh boy howdy. Rex May 2012 #78

Why should the OP edit his post? obamanut2012 May 2012 #82

The President does support full and immediate equality for all Americans. joshcryer May 2012 #83

Obama wants to leave it up to the states - history has proven that states are dbackjon May 2012 #86

OK, then explain how he gets a federal law passed. explain it in detail. dionysus May 2012 #99

he can't simply issue an executive order to ban everything wrong with this country. dionysus May 2012 #84

No apparently they don't. musicblind May 2012 #85

What, by wanting to leave it to the states? dbackjon May 2012 #87

i think some people will never forgive him for the warren\mcclurkin incident. dionysus May 2012 #88

Really? Because we're sick and fucking tired TriMera May 2012 #89

yeah, really. dionysus May 2012 #90

You didn't answer my question. Is the majority voting on your civil rights?n/t TriMera May 2012 #92

Has he ever asked for forgiveness for those two incidents (not one - two separate incidents)? yardwork May 2012 #93

probably he should, but he's done a lot to make up for it. dionysus May 2012 #98

Still, it's not surprising that some people haven't forgiven, since they haven't been asked. yardwork May 2012 #101