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vaberella

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50. See...I think he has made concrete meaninful action on that front.

Wed May 9, 2012, 11:40 PM

May 2012

From my stand point he has made moves that does support this stance. He stopped defending Section 3 in DOMA. He went on to make sure same-sex couples can get medicaid. Did the same with military couples. I think there has been past action that does back up these words. Aside from his push to repeal DOMA from before he was even President.

These to me are representative of his word. Do I think there sure as hell has a lot more to be done?! Hell yeah and Obama has to push it over and over and over again. However, I think his past actions are undeniable and have been very helpful. Even saying this publicly and in an interview is seriously meaningful. No President before has done this. I don't think anyone here can say supporting marriage equality is a winning Presidential move considering the clowns we have running the House and idiots voting them in. But to me...even if this is seen as a make or break move politically---the issue is far more than political. I find that for so many of us in this nation it's personal. Well it sure as hell is for me.

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Can we now stop calling our president a BIGOT and a COWARD? [View all] Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 OP

That would be nice, but I fear it may be wishful thinking on your part? Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #1

I hear ya, but we can't give up. Thanks for continuing to fight the good fight? :) Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #2

Pardon me if I don't sound optimistic. But one of the most vile threads was started last night. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #4

I know. I saw that thread and tried to get it hidden, but I failed. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #8

I'm glad I didn't see that, BUT... liberalmuse May 2012 #12

I started the thread. I am a second class citizen in the United States dbackjon May 2012 #24

you will not make progress on any of those issues by trashing president obama. DCBob May 2012 #67

THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE PROGRESS dbackjon May 2012 #68

Wow... and putting it in all caps must really make them feel uncomfortable. DCBob May 2012 #76

You can think that - but you would be wrong dbackjon May 2012 #77

Remember the guy outed on DU2 by a pic on his photo server? freshwest May 2012 #33

Perhaps you have that particular poster on Ignore. Like you, I wish I'd never seen it. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #46

ETA: I tried to alert that thread again. I failed yet again! Can't understand why it is allowed to Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #14

Unlike on DU.2, where mods always revisited a topic when getting more than one alert. Rhiannon12866 May 2012 #27

Yes, I think you're right. I immediately received an email with the same results, which I thought Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #28

Did you think it fit TOS regarding depressing the vote for a Democrat? freshwest May 2012 #34

You're right. I ultimately ended up trashing the thread after I posted a comment that I KNEW Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #37

I just made a few positive comments, with links and all of that, but when people are on a roll, freshwest May 2012 #42

I need to remember that start exercising the "Ignore" and "Trash Thread" functions much more than I Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #44

Obama was never a bigot or a coward before this announcement. That is an insult. He may not southernyankeebelle May 2012 #3

I agree. There were people here on DU calling him a bigot and a coward outright. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #10

Well I agree with you but they have to stop being silly and they have to realize that we southernyankeebelle May 2012 #21

I disagree, his position on gay marriage was cowardly, but from a political perspective... joshcryer May 2012 #43

sorry that doesn't make him a coward. It just makes him a man with a different opinion. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #56

When that "different opinion" is used Capt. Obvious May 2012 #70

Hmmmm that is your opinion. LOL southernyankeebelle May 2012 #71

Opression is funny. LOL Capt. Obvious May 2012 #72

Some people can find humor even in the worse of things. That is the way some people cope. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #74

I didn't think he'd do this before the election Warpy May 2012 #5

Absolutely! Lionessa May 2012 #6

Amen. Although there have been criticisms about this (not doing enough) already. It's aggravating. gateley May 2012 #7

me too. Drives me nuts. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #35

Case in point: "The president is a bigot...and anyone who doesn't agree is a bigot" thread is STILL Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #38

I'm glad I haven't seen that... BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #57

They find MORE fault! Never appreciative for whatever progress has been made. Not good gateley May 2012 #49

I agree....geez, I'm as instant gratification oriented BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #59

Tell you what - you give up YOUR RIGHTS dbackjon May 2012 #60

If only you knew how much I support this cause and care. But I can see why I may come across gateley May 2012 #61

yeah,me too---nt wendylaroux May 2012 #63

I had no doubt he'd come around on this... liberalmuse May 2012 #9

I hope. Maybe the "no difference between him and Romney" can go the way of the dodo also. great white snark May 2012 #11

That's what I'm trying to tell people here. There is a clear difference and today's revelation Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #15

Perhaps after straight people stop telling gay people how to feel and talk. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #13

+1,000,000 n/t TriMera May 2012 #16

I'm a straight person. I am a black American woman. I fully support marriage equality! No one's Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #18

"You're free to do whatever you want." ZombieHorde May 2012 #22

Look, Zombie, I'm on your side. I am a black American. I am a woman. I have a gay father who I love Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #25

I am very happy that we are on the same side. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #26

+1 n/t FreeState May 2012 #29

That sounds like you are saying when people stop arguing with you treestar May 2012 #31

I actually love when people argue with me. ZombieHorde May 2012 #45

We? Iggo May 2012 #17

Thanks for this! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #19

I am a bit surprised it took this long... Kalidurga May 2012 #20

So we should just call it good? dbackjon May 2012 #23

Welcome to DU Mr. President. You'd now be within the Terms of Service!! Nt progress2k12nbynd May 2012 #30

LOL!! I'm humored by your attempt at humor! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #39

If he backs up his words with concrete meaningful action... then yes. Fearless May 2012 #32

Fair enough. I actually agree with you on this. But can you acknowledge this historic day at least? Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #41

Of course! Fearless May 2012 #51

See...I think he has made concrete meaninful action on that front. vaberella May 2012 #50

I do agree that stopping the US AG from enforcing Section 3 of DOMA Fearless May 2012 #52

He already did when his administration stopped defending DOMA. phleshdef May 2012 #62

Only partially right and completely not my point. Fearless May 2012 #64

Risk ???? backtomn May 2012 #36

O.K., let's see what happens, then. Maybe I'm wrong. But for now, I prefer to wait and see... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #40

What if? Every group under our big tent has asked that question about any number of issues. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #47

What would have happened? treestar May 2012 #55

Thank goodness for politicasista May 2012 #48

Sometimes that helps, too! As an avid music lover, I certainly need more of that. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #53

+1 politicasista May 2012 #66

ummmm dennis4868 May 2012 #54

You and I are always on the same page! nt Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #75

Nice. GeorgeGist May 2012 #58

I got a nice serving of crow for the people who squalled up until this point! nt cecilfirefox May 2012 #65

DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2012 #69

I say "welcome aboard, Mr. President". Nye Bevan May 2012 #73