2016 Postmortem

Arthur_Frain

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72. Do you really think...

Reply to Odin2005 (Original post)

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:13 PM

Nov 2014

..that any of us ever feel "listened to" by politicians?

Do you think that if you had a chance to sit down and have a confab with anyone (even "liz" or "bernie&quot they would do anything other than tell you what you want to hear? They would lie their asses off (like EVERY elected politician does) and when you walked out the door, 30 seconds later they would have brushed you off their mind, and be thinking about which lobbyist was buying them lunch.

Sad to say that IF in fact the reason the republicans won big this election cycle is that the millenials all stayed home because there wasn't anyone progressive enough to vote for, yes, you did fuck up, and you are royally screwed with Boehner, McConnell, and all the rest salivating over another two years of trying to repeal the ACA, avoid paying women what they're worth while telling them what they can and can't do with their bodies etc., etc.

Man I feel your pain, but talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face..........

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We done fucked up. [View all] Odin2005 Nov 2014 OP

Oh bullshit ....your gen sat this one out with TV and Doritos pkdu Nov 2014 #1

Thanks for showing your cluelessness. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #2

Clueless is not voting. Let's see how that works out for them. Labor was upset with Jimmy Carter still_one Nov 2014 #80

Expecting everyone else to carry the burden of the Global Climate Change Crisis and oh, Cha Nov 2014 #12

Congratulations. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #16

THANK YOU! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #37

No one to vote for , my ass....ask them how they feel after a year of Boehner/McConnell pkdu Nov 2014 #45

You said we sat out this election F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #63

This "I need a HERO" shit is lame. MADem Nov 2014 #77

Look, I know all this. I agree that it's the height of stupidity F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #92

Oh, I understand them. I've got a load of 'em in my family. MADem Nov 2014 #105

So they let the repubs take over upaloopa Nov 2014 #57

See post #62. nt F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #64

What about the rest of us? Did we get what we want? upaloopa Nov 2014 #67

No. The boomers voted for Republicans Niko Nov 2014 #90

No Shit ... pbmus Nov 2014 #76

From the wing of the party that apparently wants to be a permanent minority. SolutionisSolidarity Nov 2014 #60

2/3rds of the electorate sat this one out Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #78

And YOUR generation voted for Republicans Niko Nov 2014 #88

+1 F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #93

You're right... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #3

I know you're right because I heard a similar take on it from my 19 year old son sketchy Nov 2014 #4

You are welcome! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #5

well your generation could have VOTED ANYWAY instead of getting in a sit out huff over it all nt msongs Nov 2014 #6

Thanks for refusing to understand apathetic Millennials. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #7

Thanks for sitting on your asses AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #74

Ohh fuck off Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #75

What generation do you think I am in? AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #95

Like the millennials say - For Who? LiberalElite Nov 2014 #17

Like babies crying because they don't have a new binky. upaloopa Nov 2014 #58

WE ARE. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #65

Hey I'm screwed too! I voted! upaloopa Nov 2014 #71

See post 92. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #96

Sooo many people seem to think they're entitled to votes. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #8

Yup. Politicians have to earn people's votes. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #9

I know tons of young people who got out and voted and yes a lot of them are Black.. they Cha Nov 2014 #10

I know tons of people who got out and voted... bulloney Nov 2014 #21

Nobody is listening to you because you have no voice without voting. But keep texting each other. nt TeamPooka Nov 2014 #11

I vote and I vote and I vote - LiberalElite Nov 2014 #18

Then you are creative and smart and get in there and help figure it out so that good people win. glinda Nov 2014 #100

LOL, 2008 taught us that we will be ignored even when we vote. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #38

So myou would have rather had MCain/Palin and/or Mitt Romney as president these last 6 years? TeamPooka Nov 2014 #41

I'm sick of voting for the lesser of the 2 evils. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #44

So the choice then is to not vote, and take the worse of the 2 evils instead.... OR DebJ Nov 2014 #49

I call bullsh*t! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #13

Thanks for proving my point. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #39

You are right that's what you have to do to kids upaloopa Nov 2014 #59

No, I should thank YOU for proving MY point. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #69

Say What You Will saintsebastian Nov 2014 #14

They're not milquetoast Democrats! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #28

"Vichy Democrats" I'm stealing this! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #40

You are welcome to it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #46

I certainly can blame anyone who cares about geek tragedy Nov 2014 #111

Voting is not about "What can I get out of this?" There is the problem livetohike Nov 2014 #15

You know, I'm tired of it LiberalElite Nov 2014 #20

You can only use the "lesser evil" argument for so long... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #42

Then keep in mind that people, LOTS OF PEOPLE, have been tortured, beaten, and have DIED BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #66

See my post #92. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #97

It's "old farts" (of which I'm one) LiberalElite Nov 2014 #19

Democratic Leadership is very competent at ensuring that corporate interests are protected and stillwaiting Nov 2014 #22

Totally agree...the Democrats need to address the student loan crisis immediately alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #23

The Dems have their heads up the asses of the Banksters who profit from student loans. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #43

So, your generation is just as dumb and ignorant as Republicans. Dawgs Nov 2014 #24

It doesn't? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #31

If these young people are Dems, then they ARE the party. They ARE the party, so why aren't they DebJ Nov 2014 #50

Look downthread at my comment Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #51

There is no excuse for choosing not to go vote. None. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #25

Good point in this. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #32

That's what I do. I intentionally didn't hit the vote straight Dem ticket just so I could see DebJ Nov 2014 #56

When I Left the Dem fredamae Nov 2014 #26

Hey, Odin. My generation feels like, besides Bernie and Liz, nobody is listening to us. And I'm 62. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #27

Yeah, you need to vote. But you know what you need even more? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #29

I love this post. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #68

So it's "What about me? What about my needs?". Got it. Blaukraut Nov 2014 #30

It is, and we'd be a lot better off if most people did simply vote on self-interest. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #33

Unfortunately, too many people are unable to connect the greater good Blaukraut Nov 2014 #34

Why should there be a reason for you to come out and vote? Filibuster Harry Nov 2014 #35

Translation: We didn't vote and it's all YOUR fault. FSogol Nov 2014 #36

Two thoughts. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #47

The PTB have done a good job spread the "Lazy Narcissist Millennials" meme. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #48

Millenial Dems need to realize they ARE the party. They ARE the party and its future. So they need DebJ Nov 2014 #53

Like I posted upthread F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #62

Yes asnd thank you for voting. And certainly it is not JUST the millenials........... DebJ Nov 2014 #73

No you helped elect the repubs. upaloopa Nov 2014 #52

"WAAAAAAAAAAAAH, we are entitled to those votes, HOW DARE THEY!!!" Odin2005 Nov 2014 #55

Then vote green, but to not vote is lazy and irresonsible still_one Nov 2014 #87

Gay marriage was outlawed in California because not enough people voted. arcane1 Nov 2014 #54

I'm not questioning whether this is accurate or not ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #61

The youngest voters don't even remember Clinton. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #70

Do you really think... Arthur_Frain Nov 2014 #72

Should be screamed directly into the ears of the thirdway/DLC bagger lite democrats! workinclasszero Nov 2014 #79

Exactly! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #89

Bush's wars weren't a motivator? LeftInTX Nov 2014 #81

The millinials didn't go through viet nam when there was a draft still_one Nov 2014 #82

I know. I was wondering if Bush's wars were a motivator - w/o a draft? LeftInTX Nov 2014 #84

Mine to. Also lack of media coverage in Iraq or Afghanistan, it was extremely sanitized. Nothing still_one Nov 2014 #86

The PTB learned their lesson from 'Nam. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #94

There was no draft, unlike Vietnam. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #91

yep. Phlem Nov 2014 #83

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #85

Why should there be student loan forgiveness? I can see lowering the interest rate to 1 or 2%, but still_one Nov 2014 #98

My generation was PROMISED that if we went to college we were GUARANTEED good jobs. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #99

That is bullshit. No one ever was guaranteed a good job if they went to college. I have no idea still_one Nov 2014 #106

Who promised you that? Answer: no one. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #112

I get it why I hear so many young people say everyone and everything is f_)**^*( up. Well it is. glinda Nov 2014 #101

What I've been hearing out in the real world Warpy Nov 2014 #102

From we Millennials' POV... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #103

I agree... Sancho Nov 2014 #104

Warren is as "liberal" as Mark Udall. joshcryer Nov 2014 #107

It's fairly common for millennials not to vote in midterm elections. chrisa Nov 2014 #108

something to think about is have people gotten too comfortable. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #109

This is nonsense. People who don't vote geek tragedy Nov 2014 #110