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30. I'm inclined to join you. eom

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Many Hillary bashers think Nader, Kucinich, or Sanders can win. Uh, yeah right. [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2014 OP

True shenmue Nov 2014 #1

Yup, DAMN true ! RBInMaine Nov 2014 #3

Considering... shenmue Nov 2014 #5

Yeah I know. RBInMaine Nov 2014 #9

If not Hillary, why not Martin O'Malley? Why do we have to keep recycling? She won't win either. TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #2

As said I'd welcome O'Malley to the race. We should have a real primary. However, she has the RBInMaine Nov 2014 #6

I know, lets continue the same failed strategy! Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #4

Please, offer your candidate. WHO can WIN? And Hillary is progressive. Just not "pure." RBInMaine Nov 2014 #7

a "progressive"? angrychair Nov 2014 #12

not pure???? paleotn Nov 2014 #46

I take your point, but.... merrily Nov 2014 #130

She is not a progressive. Progressives don't jump into wars LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #64

No True Progressive fallacy... YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #98

Using the word "pure", doesn't it have a ring of Frank Luntz? aspirant Nov 2014 #71

Oh, and Nader and Kucinich were so "successful," right? RBInMaine Nov 2014 #8

Not ONLY the best shot at the Nomination...the BEST SHOT at winning VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #10

Get back to me when there is post election poll Robbins Nov 2014 #18

Scott Walker???? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #19

Walker Robbins Nov 2014 #41

No he isn't... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #43

This is objectively wrong. Arkana Nov 2014 #90

Walker Robbins Nov 2014 #111

2 years before an election? paleotn Nov 2014 #48

I'll go with Bernie. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #11

I'm inclined to join you. eom saltpoint Nov 2014 #30

that will get the republican elected demigoddess Nov 2014 #54

Hillary's rep with Repubs is still plunging back to earth, now that she's looking like Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #128

The purists will leave Bernie in droves once he declares as a Democrat. RBInMaine Nov 2014 #134

Me too! nt NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #58

Me three. I am paying no attention to the Third Wayer's right now, until I am convinced they are silvershadow Nov 2014 #59

If he runs, he's switching from Indy to Dem, and he won't win the nomination. What then? RBInMaine Nov 2014 #74

Bernie's problem is his "socialist views". nothing he says is exteme, just bold truth. Bernie's dionysus Nov 2014 #107

Since when is telling the truth about a candidate considered "bashing?" Maedhros Nov 2014 #13

since some calling easily disputed falsehoods truth... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #20

like? Can you give some examples of falsehoods against Hillary Clinton? LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #65

That list is AWFULLY long....you want me to list every bullshit claim? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #79

You're asking the wrong person for details..... beerandjesus Nov 2014 #82

Lloyd Blankfein agrees.... /nt think Nov 2014 #14

how about some others, like RedstDem Nov 2014 #15

She beats freaking JEB!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #21

you need to explain "love" jeb?? RedstDem Nov 2014 #23

Bush.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #24

I figured that part on my own....lol RedstDem Nov 2014 #28

its sad but true... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #29

what?! RedstDem Nov 2014 #32

That they love Jeb Bush.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #34

I misread your post RedstDem Nov 2014 #37

sorry it was a typo I fixed it....wasn't your bad at all... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #40

I'm not crazy about Hillary, don't know if I'll vote for her in the primaries MiniMe Nov 2014 #16

She hasn't earned progressives' votes. saltpoint Nov 2014 #17

Oh fuck yes she has.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #22

If Sanders runs as a Democrat, saltpoint Nov 2014 #26

but he won't win.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #27

Most of us will support the nominee saltpoint Nov 2014 #31

She is not inevitable...she just is....People want her...poll after poll show it... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #33

She got her ass kicked but good saltpoint Nov 2014 #36

that was then this is now..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #38

If she's as lousy a candidate as then, saltpoint Nov 2014 #39

She wasn't lousy....Bill shot her in the foot in South Carolina...and Barack Obama lightening in a VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #44

The polls fib this early out. They're vapor. saltpoint Nov 2014 #55

All it took was her book tour and her many interviews after to see how Hillary will campaign. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #67

Have to agree. She'll have lots of cash saltpoint Nov 2014 #113

...and by "got her ass kicked" you mean "got nearly as many primary votes"? brooklynite Nov 2014 #75

No. By getting her ass kicked I mean saltpoint Nov 2014 #114

are you counting Michigan and Florida? Because Hillary would. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #116

That's why I dearly hope Sanders runs. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #66

True. We need his voice on that debate stage. saltpoint Nov 2014 #115

What happens if the both candidates are out of the mainstream? Reter Nov 2014 #25

Republicans don't nominate their crazies. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #35

I know, but that wasn't the question Reter Nov 2014 #123

Whether they are fun or not depends on who writes the questions. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #124

warren isn't running? DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #42

I think Sanders could with the right message. RDANGELO Nov 2014 #45

Vote hillary Skeowes28 Nov 2014 #47

Who brought up Nader besides you? nt LiberalElite Nov 2014 #49

I was wondering about that too. Never saw Run! Nadie! Run! here. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #69

It's stealth propaganda to equate any non-Clinton with Nader arcane1 Nov 2014 #106

It's just trash talk. HappyMe Nov 2014 #108

I was for Hillary in 2008, but totally supported Obama when he was nominated Frances Nov 2014 #50

A headline worthy of fox news Fearless Nov 2014 #51

I really won't bother with some of our friends Legalequilibrium78 Nov 2014 #52

How about the 2014 Blue Dogs, How was their winning experience? aspirant Nov 2014 #72

Too funny: the "super left". truebluegreen Nov 2014 #109

Nice OP. I would add that the next prez will likely get to appoint 2 judges to SCOTUS. Persondem Nov 2014 #53

Supreme court fear-mongering, promoting a candidate on fear again? aspirant Nov 2014 #73

So you are NOT afraid of a SCOTUS packed by Rick Perry, Ted Cruz or Jeb Bush? Persondem Nov 2014 #122

Fear not brave American aspirant Nov 2014 #125

I seem to recall, about 8-9 years ago RussBLib Nov 2014 #56

I think you get it. nt malokvale77 Nov 2014 #57

Fuck this derisive, contemptuous BS. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #60

+1 davidpdx Nov 2014 #68

Yep. And I seem to remember something similar happening with another candidate... beerandjesus Nov 2014 #83

I've noticed that Baby Boomers in particular are OBSESSED with Hillary. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #86

Not this one! LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #102

Sorry, I was generalizing! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #120

ha Ha, you got some talkback, hey sonny? LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #121

Not this one either, sorry to pop that fantasy. nt truebluegreen Nov 2014 #110

You can add me to the HappyMe Nov 2014 #112

Stop fucking telling us who isnt running... bunnies Nov 2014 #61

ooo, I forgot about that. 'I don't think so'.... LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #70

Hillary will run to Obama's right. And lose. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #62

Kucinich and Nader? HA! Old Nick Nov 2014 #63

Why would you need to get him on the ballot? brooklynite Nov 2014 #76

Cheap shot, "violating TOS" beerandjesus Nov 2014 #84

Sorry you're offended, but it's not my website, and it's not yours... brooklynite Nov 2014 #88

How many Hillary fans didn't support Obama in 2008? Are they dangerous people? aspirant Nov 2014 #91

How many? Almost none... brooklynite Nov 2014 #92

Stop signs mean something aspirant Nov 2014 #94

I recall no posts saying "I'll never vote for him" brooklynite Nov 2014 #95

Were the Obama fans threatening Hillary supporters 2 years before the election? aspirant Nov 2014 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #77

They easily forget how that worked last time liberal N proud Nov 2014 #78

Jim Webb has just setup an exploratory committee to look at running. If you have read any of the still_one Nov 2014 #80

I like Webb. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #87

We are probably on the same page. I think both Bernie and Webb will run, and that is good for still_one Nov 2014 #93

I think Sanders *could* win if... Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #81

Not a peep aspirant Nov 2014 #85

If not Hillary, right now, no one. Arkana Nov 2014 #89

No one thought a one-term Black Senator Could Win Either but Nevada Blue Nov 2014 #97

Why Hillary? RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #99

Because It's Her Turn!!! LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #100

Warren and others... thesquanderer Nov 2014 #101

Jim Webb can win Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #103

exactly DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #105

Hillary couldn't even beat Obama n/t arcane1 Nov 2014 #104

An inconvenient truth. polichick Nov 2014 #117

"Fall in Line" PAProgressive28 Nov 2014 #118

Your right Robbins Nov 2014 #119

Might I suggest "uglier" instead of "ugly?" merrily Nov 2014 #129

And the universe of potential Democratic candidates consists of Hillary and other non-electibles? merrily Nov 2014 #126

Hillary would be proud of your OP MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #127

Ah, the old "inevitability" saw. Jester Messiah Nov 2014 #131

Hillary perfume: Inevitable, part deux. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #132

Please no more Nader. Joe Magarac Nov 2014 #133

I haven't seen much talk to support the OP's claim DFW Nov 2014 #135

Bernie Sanders says out loud what the vast majority of ordinary Americans believe inside Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #136