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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Dear Hillary [View all]Persondem
(1,936 posts)66. yeah, sure, throw a little red meat to the self rightious uber left here at DU.
This:
You're not going to fight to end corruption. You're not going to fight to reclaim democracy from the clutches of a handful of multinational corporations. You're not going to make any progress on any issues that matter to most Americans, let alone those that matter to progressive voters, because you benefit from the system that stands in the way of progress. You are entrenched. You can't do any good. So I wish you would get out of the way.
... is crystal ball BS.
I bet you have never seen HRC's voting record or her ratings by scores of organizations. Check out Project Vote Smart.
I will tell you and every other denizen of the uber left echo chamber this ... Hillary Clinton could well be the ONLY person standing in the way of the Cons really taking over this country. If the republicans take over the WH and get to appoint replacements to the SCOTUS for 4-8 years, then we are DONE as a democratic country. All the gerrymandering will be locked in place, the money in politics will only increase, women's and minority rights will really start reversing, religious oligarchy will begin to take hold as the wall between church and state is dismantled, a constitutional convention will be called to change to the way senators are elected and the way presidential electors are assigned, tax codes favoring the wealthy will be etched in stone as the government keeps piling on debt, climate change will be ignored as fracking is promoted, stupid wars will be fought continuously ala 1984. Debt will pile up and the US's ability to do good will diminish. Eventually we will be broke, with few resources and a stupid, backward populace. Yeah, shit like that does happen, has happened, throughout history. The election of 2016 could be a very critical crossroads for the US and the world.
You want a permanent Republican government running amok? Keep on running your mouth, doing nothing, and seeing the world with your short sighted, myopic eyes.
Elizabeth Warren will NEVER be president. Bernie Sanders will NEVER be president. Get over it. Generally speaking leaders of the US have to lead from the center, they can lean a certain way, but usually one foot is near the center.
Just because HRC doesn't pucker up and kiss the backside of every liberal cause is no reason to throw her under the bus. She could well be all that stands between the possibility of hope and a great, long lasting darkness.
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She may not speak for Hillary's base, but she does speak for many of us...
CaliforniaPeggy
Apr 2015
#2
Me, too. Not every word, but I would have been jumping up and down if the Dems were backing
merrily
Apr 2015
#34
The folks in Sunday's campaign video all looked pretty well off, better than average at least.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#16
Great post. Thank you. And it a reality that has not/will not be addressed by Hillary.
djean111
Apr 2015
#24
The Hillary fans claim the rest of us are in the majority here, tho a small minority
merrily
Apr 2015
#36
I think you can find some colorful descriptive words to replace... do send it.
Voice for Peace
Apr 2015
#60
yes but I wish she could understand and answer for the many discouraging elements.
Voice for Peace
Apr 2015
#79
Because the Democratic Party is treating Hillary Clinton as if she's the ONLY choice.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2015
#147
Glad you came back. Hope you stay a while. Have you checked the Populist Reform group?
merrily
Apr 2015
#37
Any time. Thanks for this OP. Hope to see more. As you know, you can post the same content
merrily
Apr 2015
#42
Can a politician raise taxes? A senator? A representative? Or as you say, a president?
Darb
Apr 2015
#72
If anonymous Internet haters were capable of damaging Clinton Free Republic
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#75
yeah, sure, throw a little red meat to the self rightious uber left here at DU.
Persondem
Apr 2015
#66
I agree, see trend has been Hillary's favorability going down and unfavorability going up!
representativepress
Apr 2015
#80
I would like Mrs. Clinton to do something significant for the American people now
Sunlei
Apr 2015
#84
The sad thing is that Hillary supporters don't give two shits about those who she
davidpdx
Apr 2015
#95
You think? I love these anti-Hillary posts. The difference between most Hillary supporters is that
still_one
May 2015
#103
We will see how popular she is among rank and file Democrats in the fullness of time...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#106
The OP is right...Hillary has made a lot of compromises to get where she's got...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#108
I do not agree with you, Hillary is very qualified to be president, we the voters will determine
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#104
Maybe a bunch of us ought to sign onto it & see what we can do with it.
Jackpine Radical
May 2015
#105
Please compare her contributions to President Obama's 08 and 012 elections...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#119
At this rate he will need to raise this much money for another 1400 days to have
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#129
She ran for office in one state. If Bernie is running for president he will need to run in
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#136
I am going by what Elizabeth Warren's campaign fund was. Since then we have
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#140
I just used the amount of funds Elizabeth Warren used in her run for the Senate.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#142
In fairness...very few people run for office, or support a candidate based on the salary level
brooklynite
May 2015
#143
This was not her salary level, she said she spent this amount. In fact, knowing the Clintons
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#148
Dear Poster, Thanks for yet another tired, burned out anti-Hillary diatribe. YAWN, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
RBInMaine
May 2015
#153