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thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
15. True, today is what counts
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jun 2015

but this kind of thing is helpful to Sanders because it goes right to the heart of many people's critical perceptions of HRC, that she is something of a "whichever way the wind blows" politician.

In 2008, I supported John Edwards, despite thinking he was a "whichever way the wind blows" candidate... I doubted he had much in the way of sincere convictions, but he was saying the things I was most in favor of, and I hoped that, even if he wasn't genuinely so deeply committed to them, if those were the positions that got him elected, those would be the positions he would govern from (especially since he would presumably have wanted to be re-elected four years later). But my support was not entirely enthusiastic because of that perception... I'd rather have supported someone who I thought really felt deeply about these things, but such a candidate was not to be found. I think this may be an important factor for Sanders, this consistency over 40+ years says something, so I do not think it is irrelevant.

Senator Congruence! FraDon Jun 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jun 2015 #29
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #2
Nice find! K&R nt TBF Jun 2015 #3
A higher resolution and readable version Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #4
Interesting and impressive. Anyone know where Sec. Clinton was on this issue in '72? Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #5
Clinton wasn't slogging away trying to win an election in a tiny state back in 1972 (and failing!) George II Jun 2015 #10
It matters because it shows he actually believes this position. jeff47 Jun 2015 #13
True, today is what counts thesquanderer Jun 2015 #15
Clinton did come to that viewpoint... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #16
that is a flat out lie dsc Jun 2015 #17
Burns you up that Sanders is a leader, and Clinton is a follower? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #19
No what pisses me off is people who either don't know dsc Jun 2015 #20
Similar to what I've been thinking, but figured I'd get blasted (as you were) if I said that... George II Jun 2015 #21
I had a close HS friend who was gay in 1972. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #22
Then don't tell untruths about it dsc Jun 2015 #24
'Abolish all laws' CanadaexPat Jun 2015 #26
that penalize conduct dsc Jun 2015 #27
K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #6
K&R JEB Jun 2015 #7
Well that's pretty freaking awesome. Orrex Jun 2015 #8
What an amazing find! karynnj Jun 2015 #9
Consistency for decades. Amazing in a politician. He's the real deal. nt valerief Jun 2015 #11
No other politician in the US RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #12
Totally Agree colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #14
Really Sherrod Brown has been a politician since the early 70's dsc Jun 2015 #18
Sherrod isn't running or I'd favor him over Bernie but you have to admit they are rare among pols TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #23
I really wish he would run dsc Jun 2015 #25
Bernie is ahead of everybody! kentuck Jun 2015 #28
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