2016 Postmortem

frylock

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61. Never mind that Clinton's "flaws" show how incapable she is as a leader

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"Do you think NY State should recognize gay marriage?" Hillary: "No." [View all] Bonobo Jun 2015 OP

Craven politician FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #1

Conniving opportunist or something far, far worse. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #10

like President Obama? brooklynite Jun 2015 #71

I don't try very much to keep score about these matters FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #74

Why, yes, now that you mention it. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #92

more than that marym625 Jun 2015 #2

Yes, neither would she admit that going after Saddam before OBL was a mistake. Bonobo Jun 2015 #3

The hits just keep comin and deservedly so. Hillary is her own worst enemy. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #77

How old is this? Disingenuous at best here. babylonsister Jun 2015 #4

It's from 2002. Hillary was 55 years old, a Senator from one of the US's largest states. Bonobo Jun 2015 #5

+1. I could care less that she was a Goldwater Girl a zillion years ago. winter is coming Jun 2015 #18

Obama was against before he was for it..... Historic NY Jun 2015 #25

Obama's not running. CanadaexPat Jun 2015 #30

Not going to work.......... Historic NY Jun 2015 #36

So she supported separate but equal? Awesome info, thanks. CanadaexPat Jun 2015 #38

Obviously your deluded... Historic NY Jun 2015 #39

Bernie has been vocally for gay marriage since 1972. nt. druidity33 Jun 2015 #87

Neither are you, and I'm not voting for you or for Sanders The Second Stone Jun 2015 #41

? You must have me mixed up with some other DUer. winter is coming Jun 2015 #37

Credit where credit is due Fairgo Jun 2015 #64

No we haven't forgot that. There were plenty of threads at DU excoriating Obama totodeinhere Jun 2015 #93

I don't think younger voters will care about something from 2002 6chars Jun 2015 #49

Exactly! Thought LEADers sposed to LEAD! Champions sposed to champion causes BEFORE they become popular... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #78

Very well said. pangaia Jun 2015 #85

Not very old Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #7

It will take a long time -- almost eternity -- for the blood of 1,000,000+ innocent Iraqis KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #13

'A purely political standpoint' - you got that right CanadaexPat Jun 2015 #35

In another thread, we've got a poster claiming that Sanders' vote against DOMA Maedhros Jun 2015 #60

Our Nominee! onehandle Jun 2015 #6

Happy to let people see what they would be voting for. Bonobo Jun 2015 #8

You're too generous in crediting some people with having an ethical outlook. Divernan Jun 2015 #79

And nobody should EVER forget it! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #81

And not an LGBT supporter Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #9

yipee!!! frylock Jun 2015 #43

Blowin' with the wind Depaysement Jun 2015 #11

it now goes this way. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #12

It Is Dated colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #14

You're so right. And how long did it take to force that admission out of Hillary? How come others were so right from the beginning? Just sad. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #82

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OP is probably hoping people don't watch the entire video.. boston bean Jun 2015 #17

In another thread, you said Hillary has always supported gay rights. Bonobo Jun 2015 #19

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When she openly opposed same-sex marriage? frylock Jun 2015 #45

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Let's hope she doesn't change her mind again Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #28

+1 BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #90

what percentage of people supported desegregation? frylock Jun 2015 #46

So you're cool with leaders thinking you aren't equal BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #88

Marriage licenses for all, protected by the 14th Amendment, were inevitable HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #16

She was an elected official representing her constituents Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #20

So why was Bernie not against gay marriage when Hillary was? Bonobo Jun 2015 #21

I am curious to know how old you are Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #23

Sorry, my mom's calling. Bonobo Jun 2015 #24

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #80

Obviously you meant rock Jun 2015 #29

Apparently! Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #31

Way to raise the bar champ. You sure knocked his block off with that zinger. Exultant Democracy Jun 2015 #103

Being right too soon is socially unacceptable Fumesucker Jun 2015 #44

Sanders' kneejerk reaction to rush headlong into doing the right thing should be scrutinized.. frylock Jun 2015 #72

You mean someone still has, umm, actual hifiguy Jun 2015 #75

It was never radical to support gay rights. Your comment is an affront to all of totodeinhere Jun 2015 #94

You make 2002 song like ancient history. Bonobo Jun 2015 #100

The dark distant times we called 2002... Exultant Democracy Jun 2015 #102

That last line says it all davidpdx Jun 2015 #110

Hillary was in favor of states rights concerning gun control as well Mnpaul Jun 2015 #33

Was she representing her constituents when she voted for Bush's IWR? frylock Jun 2015 #58

It was a different time when Sanders was an activist for equal rights for black Americans as well.. frylock Jun 2015 #59

I'm supporting her, anyway. Paladin Jun 2015 #22

Never mind that Clinton's "flaws" show how incapable she is as a leader frylock Jun 2015 #61

You're entitled to your opinion. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #63

And you're entitled to your rationalization frylock Jun 2015 #65

That's what I get for trying to keep things civil. Paladin Jun 2015 #66

Yes. Poor form indeed, especially when you're trying to "keep things civil".. frylock Jun 2015 #67

Duplicity - The Video Never Lies cantbeserious Jun 2015 #27

Bernie thinks his record negatives is a smear, here you go with another smear. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #32

I doubt that she ever opposed gay marriage nor do I believe she supports it now tularetom Jun 2015 #34

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Yes, she supported a seperate but equal policy for gay couples Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #42

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Thankfully we have a candidate in Bernie Sanders who was not a part of that majority Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #56

You voted for Obama twice when he had the same position Renew Deal Jun 2015 #47

Nearly all of us opposed gay marriage back then Reter Jun 2015 #48

I never opposed equality , but that's me AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #51

I did not Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jun 2015 #55

You say that like you're not gay. GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #105

Who is "us"? bunnies Jun 2015 #57

No. Just no. n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #70

or nah. frylock Jun 2015 #73

I had a bunch of gay customers back then Fumesucker Jun 2015 #83

See that's the problem BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #89

Not true. Since it's founding DU has been a bastion of support for LGBT rights. totodeinhere Jun 2015 #96

all of who? noiretextatique Jun 2015 #98

How did you vote in the 2008 primary and general? RandySF Jun 2015 #52

In 2008, we didn't have a choice on this issue BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #91

In 2002 she was most of the population., Today, Hillary Clinton Praises Gay Marriage Decision and Ho Sunlei Jun 2015 #62

But . . . . but . . . . stranger81 Jun 2015 #69

Third Way is another K-Street Way of being ambiguous politically, not sexually like a three way, What orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #76

I'm almost as old as Hillary olddots Jun 2015 #84

Oh orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #86

I'm almost as old as HRC. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #95

I am a proud Gay man who just spent the weekend celebrating Gay Pride. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #97

This is why using her "H>" branding for the 'history" rainbos was offensive and exploitative. morningfog Jun 2015 #99

+1 davidpdx Jun 2015 #108

Ruth Bader Ginsburg itsrobert Jun 2015 #101

Give me a break. askew Jun 2015 #104

+1 davidpdx Jun 2015 #109

Yeah sure, but if you look at things on the cosmic calendar. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #106

Ouch! L0oniX Jun 2015 #107