2016 Postmortem

Adrahil

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52. possibly....

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:00 PM

Jul 2015

but if so, it will be a slow Bern.... pardon the very deliberate pun.

The first choice/second choice numbers from the CNN-ORC poll show he isn't on the verge of converting a ton of voters. It suggest a support ceiling of between 20-30%.

BUT, that's not set in stone. Bernie continue to build and slowly convince people. And of course, I think he'll do pretty well in a Democrat-only debate. So things COULD change, but I don't think so. And I think the Kochs would eat him alive in the generals.

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Why Bernie Sanders Will Become the Democratic Nominee and Defeat Any Republican in 2016 [View all] L0oniX Jul 2015 OP

I'd really like to see nationwide polling for Bernie vs. the Republican field. Agschmid Jul 2015 #1

The last polls I saw showed Bernie getting trounced Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #3

LOL L0oniX Jul 2015 #4

The polls were designed to demoralize Bernie supporters LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #5

Probably designed by Hilary herself. Indydem Jul 2015 #25

Hillary is slipping month by month, not a lot, but trending down. peacebird Jul 2015 #28

The question is, does Bernie have a support ceiling? Adrahil Jul 2015 #44

We will see, but I think his appeal will keep growing peacebird Jul 2015 #47

possibly.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #52

I think he will be fine in the general election, & will make a great President! peacebird Jul 2015 #53

Well, if he gets the nomination, I will work hard for him. Adrahil Jul 2015 #55

Bernie is already at 33% in Iowa awake Jul 2015 #76

Yup, I see that. If he can get to 40, he may stand a chance. At least in a few states. n/t Adrahil Jul 2015 #80

Show me the poll. Fearless Jul 2015 #35

Voila DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #46

This is a poll of the democratic primary not of Bernie against Republicans in a G.E. scenario Fearless Jul 2015 #48

I didn't make any assertions. Is this what you are looking for? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #49

Scott Walker leads Bernie by 8 points nationallly, and yet the nation doesn't know Bernie Fearless Jul 2015 #70

I will go with the candidate who beats him by seventeen points just to be safe. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #71

And her numbers are dropping. By GE time where will they be? Fearless Jul 2015 #73

Actually they aren't dropping DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #74

Yes and no OnlyBernieBurnsBush Jul 2015 #75

Uhmm, no DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #77

It would seem in the age of the smart phone, polling has become Cleita Jul 2015 #6

Many polls now call cell phones. The CNN-ORC poll for example. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #56

I hope not. That's the reason I got rid of my land line. Too many telemarketers and Cleita Jul 2015 #58

The numbers are randomly selected. Changing phones won't help! ;) Adrahil Jul 2015 #68

Of course you do BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #11

I know my statement is so telling isn't it? Agschmid Jul 2015 #12

Because there already has been polls and you could easily look them up BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #14

I'll Google it then. Agschmid Jul 2015 #16

I prize honesty very highly BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #21

Polling the General means little at this point. Let's have a look in The first week of October after Indepatriot Jul 2015 #18

Things are looking up. I think we can do this. Autumn Jul 2015 #2

To date, no one has explained to me how Sanders will be viable in the general election Gothmog Jul 2015 #7

Yes the choice will be very clear. Vote for the big money candiate or the real candidate. L0oniX Jul 2015 #8

Control of the SCOTUS is too important to be risked on a candidate who is not viable Gothmog Jul 2015 #27

Money does not equal votes -- unless people ALLOW it to by not voting. Triana Jul 2015 #10

Actually in 2008, President Obama out raised McCain and the GOP by a significant amount Gothmog Jul 2015 #43

Rmoney outspent Obama BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #13

Obama kept the spending very close and was more efficient in his spending Gothmog Jul 2015 #26

The money is an issue, no doubt BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #29

This is a which came first-chicken or the egg Gothmog Jul 2015 #42

The guy who wrote the article wants Rand Paul for President: sufrommich Jul 2015 #15

Well that's just ridiculous. Agschmid Jul 2015 #19

This is the title of the aticle in the link Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #31

Yes... Agschmid Jul 2015 #36

Maybe the writer is libertarian and not Democrat. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #45

Fuck Rand Paul. zappaman Jul 2015 #20

That is telling Gothmog Jul 2015 #23

Because Money isn't going to win again. arcane1 Jul 2015 #17

Money is very important in today's politics Gothmog Jul 2015 #22

That applies to any Dem who wins the nomination. arcane1 Jul 2015 #24

The key is not the MOST money, the key is ENOUGH money... brooklynite Jul 2015 #32

He got more than $40 from me arcane1 Jul 2015 #33

Of course the fundraising issue applies to all potential democratic candidates Gothmog Jul 2015 #57

I agree, Hillary Clinton will have no trouble attracting big money n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #63

People don't watch broadcast teevee anymore.. frylock Jul 2015 #38

Do you really believe this? Gothmog Jul 2015 #60

can you point to where I said "money is not important"? frylock Jul 2015 #66

If Sanders beats Clinton and her war chest, he mops the floor.. frylock Jul 2015 #34

To beat Hillary Clinton, at some point Sanders will have to show that he is viable Gothmog Jul 2015 #65

Here ya go.. frylock Jul 2015 #67

The Democratic Blue Wall is based on historical races where the Democrats ran a viable candidate Gothmog Jul 2015 #72

You're justifying money in politics? Unreal. Fearless Jul 2015 #37

No, I am acknowledging the reality of current politics Gothmog Jul 2015 #64

Bernie has 200,000 volunteers in all 50 states... Beagle One Jul 2015 #50

Welcome to DU. I hope you enjoy your stay./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #59

Why do you think that I am in a panic? Gothmog Jul 2015 #62

It comes from people mainlining emotionalism tymorial Jul 2015 #54

I am trying to base my decision as to who to support on facts Gothmog Jul 2015 #61

K.R 99Forever Jul 2015 #9

I don't know if Bernie will overtake the big money candidate in the primaries, but Vinca Jul 2015 #30

It's like I say, America elects reformers. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #39

There is no doubt about it! He is the right person at the right time for this job. And apparently sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #40

Bernie can awaken America's real "sleeping giant." Utopian Leftist Jul 2015 #41

This is pure speculation and supposition tymorial Jul 2015 #51

Some background on H.A. Goodman ... GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #69

The idea that Bernie would easily beat any Republican redstateblues Jul 2015 #78

Keep trying. L0oniX Jul 2015 #79