2016 Postmortem

PatrickforO

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76. I saw that too.

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:15 AM

Jul 2015

Ridiculous. I don't even see a remote comparison and I'm very much for Bernie. I gotta tell you, though, I sort of got in an argument with one lady who shall remain nameless. I was talking about the TPP - an issue that really gets me going. The secrecy surrounding it, the miniscule debate in Congress, the refusal to let American people see it, Hillary's part in it...

Anyway, this woman kept asking me for links, first about how the TPP will cost jobs. So I linked her to articles by Robert Reich and Joseph Stiglitz. Then she wanted proof that Congress hadn't really seen it and would not have the opportunity to debate it in depth before their up-down vote, so I gave her a link that described Senator Barbara Boxer's experience when she went down to the basement to review the thing - no staffers in there with her, no notes, no copies. Finally, she wanted a link to prove that Clinton had something to do with setting up the TPP - so I linked her to a speech she gave while at State in October 2011 to the 'Economic Club' of New York. In that speech she speaks of 'economic statecraft' and takes credit for the (then) building momentum of the TPP.

Then she asked for more links saying the ones I'd shared didn't prove anything. At this point, I lost patience and told her to find her own links because it is all our responsibility as citizens of a republic to exercise due diligence before making up our minds on stuff. She replied that my texts didn't prove some (to me) hairsplitting point and that my position was 'bizarre.'

I mean, it seemed to me like she had kind of a rectal-cranial thing going on - you know, one of those people who don't want to be confused with facts, and if when presented, the facts are inconvenient, then dispute them. Left I guess as bad a taste in my mouth as the ridiculous and completely unfounded Zimmerman comparison for your candidate. I've been thinking of generating a post talking about people who demand link after link after link - because that's lazy of them, I think. I mean, why should I have to run all over supplying links to someone who seems to just be playing the hair splitting game? They can get their own links in future, I think...

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The Bernie Sanders smear campaign has begun [View all] NorthCarolina Jul 2015 OP

If Hillary pulls the kind of stunts she did with Obama, it will backfire BIGTIME! The progressive base is energized and won't put up with any crap. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #1

You know she will. She is a dirty, dirty campaigner. She was denied her turn in 2008, she'll get morningfog Jul 2015 #6

No doubt about it. And, of course, Hillary won't leave her fingerprints at the scene. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #7

Just wait for the first comment or ad to use the word "commie." morningfog Jul 2015 #66

She is their creature... haikugal Jul 2015 #130

Amusing. I'm trying to remember where I've seen this kind of speculation and innuendo as a tactic. Nitram Jul 2015 #162

Well. What did you come up with? morningfog Jul 2015 #163

Just any right wing media outlet. Nitram Jul 2015 #171

Do you remember her dirty campaign against Obama in 2008? morningfog Jul 2015 #191

So true morningfog - so many here with selective memory. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #298

I do remember that and I resented it. Nitram Jul 2015 #347

Yes, I'll give her that. Hillary certainly seemed like a team player, though I read somewhere she said she would be a better friend to Israel... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #355

That's a pretty weak criticism. Nitram Jul 2015 #356

Of course she will. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #12

Hope Hillary does - it's gonna leave a mark, on HER, not Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #300

They don't know what else to do. I was disgusted by it in 2008. I assume others felt the same. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #319

Its Sanders supporters that are pulling things on Hillary~ lewebley3 Jul 2015 #75

^^^There is one now. ^^^ 99Forever Jul 2015 #88

Team Hillary are real Dem's and working against the GOP lewebley3 Jul 2015 #90

Please proceed. 99Forever Jul 2015 #93

"You can see it happening Aerows Jul 2015 #289

You complete my analogy, Aerows. 99Forever Jul 2015 #291

My pleasure :) Aerows Jul 2015 #292

So the GOP is socialist now? Gore1FL Jul 2015 #94

I dont' think you know what the word socialist is: Look it up! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #238

I am not the one claiming that socialism helps the GOP. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #249

You can't stop the truth AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #109

Aging, the GOP stopped the truth for 8 years during Bush and 8 during Reagan. Nitram Jul 2015 #118

You don't want to risk being right? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #119

Don't put words in my mouth Aging. Nitram Jul 2015 #121

If I interpreted your comment wrong AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #122

I was saying I'm not going to risk believing the words of a politician who is all talk. Nitram Jul 2015 #127

So you believe Sanders is dishonest AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #131

There you go again, putting words in my mouth, etc Nitram Jul 2015 #144

"I'm not going to risk believing the words of a politician who is all talk" AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #145

I didn't imply he is lying, I stated he doesn't have the skill or ability... Nitram Jul 2015 #148

You said you don't believe him AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #152

Please provide a link to the post where I wrote, "I don't believe him". Nitram Jul 2015 #156

Sure AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #164

Based on what? Gore1FL Jul 2015 #250

Sounds like most people I know. All talk that is. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #333

Do some research kenfrequed Jul 2015 #161

Do some research? I was just asked by frylock to provide that info about Clinton. And I did. Nitram Jul 2015 #170

Where would you rate YOUR tone? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #176

Angry, when my words are twisted and labeled bullshit Nitram Jul 2015 #186

Good luck in your disbelief AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #222

According to govtrack, that's not accurate. Bernie was ineffective Sancho Jul 2015 #322

Wow! Could you list the successes, bills passed etc that Hillary has accomplished? Just so know sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #294

Hey, she was a strong advocate for the IWR. That bill was passed and just look how it turned out!! Scuba Jul 2015 #323

Even in a short stint in the Senate, you can see... Sancho Jul 2015 #326

Spell it out for us emoprogs, please. frylock Jul 2015 #126

E-M-P-R-O-G Nitram Jul 2015 #157

F-U-C-K-I-N-G L-A-M-E frylock Jul 2015 #192

Awww, wherre's your sense of humor? Nitram Jul 2015 #215

I'm laughing inside frylock Jul 2015 #217

I agree completely, which is why we all need to get behind Bernie. He will kick Rethuglian azz! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #301

So true upi402 Jul 2015 #306

Bernie is Sanders is not the truth: He just a nice man! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #134

He speaks the truth AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #142

Aging, you sound a litttle starry-eyed. Nitram Jul 2015 #150

getting a one time fed audit questionseverything Jul 2015 #232

In your opinion. frylock Jul 2015 #124

actually Hillary said if she is president she'll work with the republicans Doctor_J Jul 2015 #214

Hillary will President of American's not just left ideologues lewebley3 Jul 2015 #223

And I would prefer a president who fights republicans to one who caves in to them, Doctor_J Jul 2015 #235

Hillary Clinton has been fighting GOP, for 30 years for real! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #236

She has only been in politics as apolitician since 2000 Gore1FL Jul 2015 #253

Caving in, or leading the way? ;) Babel_17 Jul 2015 #263

I believe you have that bass ackwards! fed-up Jul 2015 #310

Lost me at "no accomplishments" Gore1FL Jul 2015 #92

Sanders has been only Senator, of 600,000. lewebley3 Jul 2015 #111

That's the same thing they said about Obama AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #123

What they said of Obama was he was uppity: Just the way they lewebley3 Jul 2015 #231

Can you enumerate Clinton's accomplishments kplzthx? frylock Jul 2015 #128

Yes, Two of most successful Administrations in History lewebley3 Jul 2015 #132

hunh? frylock Jul 2015 #138

Apparently living in the White House with the president is the same as serving. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #193

Yep, but don't you DARE associate Hillary with some of Bill's less savory legislation. frylock Jul 2015 #203

It counts as experience except when it is inconvenient to count as experience. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #241

Here's a link Nitram Jul 2015 #135

Here's another Nitram Jul 2015 #140

Can YOU enumerate..? frylock Jul 2015 #147

I'd rather past a link than type all that out. Nitram Jul 2015 #153

Seriously, try researching the things you want to discuss. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #188

Chair of a caucus for 8 years (1991 to 1999). Nitram Jul 2015 #219

It was one example to prove the argument wrong Gore1FL Jul 2015 #220

True, what's the point if the examples are that lame. Nitram Jul 2015 #345

What the point if the argument is so bad a lame example defeats it? Gore1FL Jul 2015 #354

You do realize.... Mnpaul Jul 2015 #297

Two of those were balls. You need a new umpire. Nitram Jul 2015 #346

Really improving the place is stating it lightly Mnpaul Jul 2015 #349

OK, that's pretty impressive. I'm interested. Nitram Jul 2015 #352

lol AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #108

You forgot your sarcasm thingy.... nt haikugal Jul 2015 #137

What a sad, sad statement. If you think that because HRC is tough as nails, didn't blink an rhett o rick Jul 2015 #260

That gave me my morning laugh. hobbit709 Jul 2015 #318

IF? Nitram Jul 2015 #158

Of course she will. 840high Jul 2015 #190

You mean "The Race Memo"?Yeah, Clinton should not have released that. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #211

Clinton is defined in the public eye. The RNC can not rebrand her. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #212

Let them try to rebrand Bernie AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #224

Please, they're drooling at a chance to have Clinton for an opponent. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #252

First they'd have to lower her trustworthiness ratings in the polls Babel_17 Jul 2015 #266

No,they're not. There's a reason they're attacking her non stop and sufrommich Jul 2015 #274

It would behoove her to put a stop to this. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #329

I agree, but, like the proverbial scorpion ridin the turtle across the river, it's hard to fight nature. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #334

Then let us remind her of her best nature: Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #357

There're about 17 Republican candidates fadedrose Jul 2015 #2

Be prepared for another Dem candidate to be spotlighted... CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #3

I think that wud backfire on Hillary & split her support. Only Elizabeth jumpin in cud potentially hurt Bernie & she's not runnin-indeed, all indications are that she'll throw him her support. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #5

"This is all ready (sic) an embarrassment to her." Thor_MN Jul 2015 #23

The point is, what was HRC leading by in June? May? April? mikehiggins Jul 2015 #38

And if he can't, it will be boring. Fact is, right now he is trailing by double digits Thor_MN Jul 2015 #262

She led by 60% a few months ago. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #56

She's performing worse, but hardly a surprise given the competition. Go Bernie Go! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #303

Well it is about the trends. If you look at these polls over time, and enter the last four on excel PatrickforO Jul 2015 #63

Sanders and TPP jerryster Jul 2015 #353

19% today, 9% a month from now.. frylock Jul 2015 #129

What are your feelings on the Powerball numbers? Thor_MN Jul 2015 #264

bookmarking frylock Jul 2015 #267

It's called a "trend". Bernie's on the way up and, predictably, Hillary stumbled right out of the gate. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #302

It's called "second place" Thor_MN Jul 2015 #307

Are you seriously suggesting that Clinton would attempt Agschmid Jul 2015 #168

I think our voting system... CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #213

"Yes" would have sufficed. Agschmid Jul 2015 #242

Thank you for saying more than "yes." SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #280

I think there are a lot of in-denial ostriches... CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #311

I rememeber waayyy back when just about everyone here agreed that our voting system was corruptible. Bugenhagen Jul 2015 #315

Oh, you did. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #338

That's how they get away with it... CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #339

Yep. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #343

They already deployed the "Bernie doesn't care about minorities" meme. leveymg Jul 2015 #4

Untimately, I think their efforts will be in vain. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #8

I agree with you. HRCs campaign has already gone Old School negative and is a real turn off. leveymg Jul 2015 #11

It was clear in his speech last night that he does care about minorities HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #10

Yes, he addressed issues for African Americans and Latinos head on. He was brilliantM peacebird Jul 2015 #22

He was "brilliant?" Nitram Jul 2015 #120

Well, you be sure and enjoy yourself imagining all that. frylock Jul 2015 #136

Frylock, could you please enlighten me why you consider the speech "brilliant"? Nitram Jul 2015 #146

Nitram, could you please enlighten me as to when I called the speech "brilliant"? frylock Jul 2015 #180

If you look at the thread, the comment of mine that you responded to... Nitram Jul 2015 #183

My advice to this sort of discomfort is eat more prunes. HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #139

LOL! peacebird Jul 2015 #207

You have quite an imagination LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #216

Great post. I agree with you so much. Thanks. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #46

Welcome. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #59

"you will know them by their campaign cash." JDPriestly Jul 2015 #60

It's obvious when the released poll has questions omitted. hootinholler Jul 2015 #84

All of it was in his speech. LWolf Jul 2015 #103

What do you think of HRC supporters here being compared to Zimmerman? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #15

Wasn't aware of that one. Hardly a meme unless it gets posted repeatedly by a number of leveymg Jul 2015 #17

Do you think we should be compared to him? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #19

Not unless you murder someone out of racial animus. leveymg Jul 2015 #24

Here you go. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #25

One post that no one agreed with. radiclib Jul 2015 #44

Thank you. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #47

Looks like a conversation between two members complaining about leveymg Jul 2015 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jul 2015 #73

Do you have to make it personal? leveymg Jul 2015 #77

What about comparing some DUers tactics to lee Atwater? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #82

"The TACTIC is like something out of the Lee Atwater playbook" leveymg Jul 2015 #89

Sonds like comparing him to lee Atwater to me. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #91

Funny how one post can suddenly become some sort of imaginary trend arcane1 Jul 2015 #83

What is a trend is bogus hides against HRC supporters and those who questions Sanders. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #87

Can you point to those bogus hides? leveymg Jul 2015 #106

Just from this week. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #110

Here's my take on that. leveymg Jul 2015 #114

1SBM is not a HRC supporter but someone who questioned Sanders. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #115

The 1SBM meme hide was well-deserved. leveymg Jul 2015 #133

Don't push false memes and fallacies AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #141

How easy for the majority here to dismiss us. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #151

The Third Way® is solidly in the past AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #154

I am not third way so push that on someone else. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #155

Anyone with a job above minimum wage is "Turd Way" LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #218

Anyone they don't like is third way. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #227

Yep LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #233

And then we will see who supports the nominee and who is here to disrupt. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #234

Sounds like you can't wait for the Great Purge to begin. Oh, Joy, it'll be like 1948 (or 1937)! leveymg Jul 2015 #244

I am looking foward to uuniting around our nominee. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #245

Hillary is Third-Way, so it is NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #335

1sbm is not a Hillary supporter? Doctor_J Jul 2015 #221

Are you calling him a 1SBM a liar? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #226

He's a saint and a martyr. Here's 1SBMs post that was voted off: leveymg Jul 2015 #247

I was talking to the doctor. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #248

Yes. frylock Jul 2015 #276

Why? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #278

Based upon his rather insincere post regarding his concerns about Sanders.. frylock Jul 2015 #283

Weak answer on your part. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #287

Yeah, well, you know... that's just like my opinion, man. frylock Jul 2015 #290

No, reading his posts Doctor_J Jul 2015 #358

There are plenty of Hillary supporters who don't get hides or vacations. morningfog Jul 2015 #143

Sorry but your post is wromg. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #149

Like I said, you have zero hidden posts. You carry yourself with decorum. morningfog Jul 2015 #159

If the jury is msde up of people who dislike you then you have a problem. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #165

I don't dislike any "side." morningfog Jul 2015 #167

They have more courage than i do to tell it like it is. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #172

He got hides for posting flame bait and conitnuing locked threads. morningfog Jul 2015 #194

Good day to you! hrmjustin Jul 2015 #195

Do you remember 2008? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #160

I am allowed my opinion amd will defend my friends whether you like it or not. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #166

I have no problem with you defending them AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #169

Criticism is allowed. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #173

But when criticism is exposed as fallacy AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #174

You can argue it out but my point is that Sanders supporters are trying to stop any criticism hrmjustin Jul 2015 #177

Fallacies are fallacies AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #178

A lot better than Sanders supporters. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #179

Hillary supporters are in a pickle AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #181

Some of Obama's greatest supporters have turned on him. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #182

True AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #184

Good day! hrmjustin Jul 2015 #185

Yep, you've got that right. kath Jul 2015 #309

I have great respect for you, my friend Aerows Jul 2015 #279

The ignore function is a good thing. It never works for me. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #281

It prevents Aerows Jul 2015 #285

I'm curious are 2 of those 5 the ones who went around demanding loyalty oaths? davidpdx Jul 2015 #317

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Jul 2015 #261

Name me one damn thing i did to him! hrmjustin Jul 2015 #265

I withdraw any accusation for you. But you know what I am talking about. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #268

I have no clue what you are talking about. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #269

Well just don't be shocked should OS get PPR'd. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #271

This is really crappy on your part to drag him into this conversation like this. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #273

I didn't mention HRC supporters. Where did that come from. I just asked for some empathy for rhett o rick Jul 2015 #275

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #277

And you aren't fooling anyone either. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #282

See the thing is rhett I backed up my claim that there were bogus hides this week. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #286

I am truly sorry if I went overboard. I won't alert on you. You have your opinion. I just don't rhett o rick Jul 2015 #288

Is this more of the bullshit "Bernie purge" I heard about when the troll NYC Skip was tombstoned? zappaman Jul 2015 #344

Not 1 post or imaginary- meme has played here for months. Not like I'm the only one who has noticed leveymg Jul 2015 #96

I'll count my blessings that I've missed it. I don't need to see that shit. arcane1 Jul 2015 #101

With you on that. Primaries are Crazy Season on DU. n/t leveymg Jul 2015 #107

It was one of the most revolting things I've seen mcar Jul 2015 #225

Heh. That's as realistic as claiming Sanders was a covert agent with Seal Team Six. mikehiggins Jul 2015 #43

Thank you. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #48

Horrors! Very offensive! JDPriestly Jul 2015 #50

Thank you. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #52

Well said! leveymg Jul 2015 #78

Well said! mcar Jul 2015 #229

I saw that too. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #76

The poster didn't call Hillary Zimmerman but called HRC supporters on du little zimmermans. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #79

You'll avoid a lot of hassle, and people appreciate it, if you do provide links. leveymg Jul 2015 #85

I hear what you're saying and agree to an extent, but this was out of bounds. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #284

There are very few I won't engage with here. This sounds like one. leveymg Jul 2015 #340

Thanks. She probably was a troll. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #342

Supporter of the candidate who triangulates minority rights have no business criticizing anyone! nt ieoeja Jul 2015 #30

that's backfired already Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #80

No, no one has said that. That is a blatantly false argument BainsBane Jul 2015 #197

Well said! hrmjustin Jul 2015 #254

"Victimhood" is unbecoming. Stick to the issues. Darb Jul 2015 #9

When tactics become an issue, you know that something's wrong. leveymg Jul 2015 #13

You'll know when the word 'Socialist' is repeated non-stop in political ads. jalan48 Jul 2015 #14

It's not a bad word. leveymg Jul 2015 #21

I agree, but sadly American's have been brainwashed into thinking it's a bad thing. jalan48 Jul 2015 #28

Like it or not "Socialist" will not play well redstateblues Jul 2015 #29

I agree. It's a label that can be exploited. jalan48 Jul 2015 #33

Sure... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #175

I'm for Bernie but it's an issue. jalan48 Jul 2015 #196

No sir, you are wrong. 99Forever Jul 2015 #230

I think for you and I it's not a problem. jalan48 Jul 2015 #239

I've already done it. 99Forever Jul 2015 #243

Wait until the GOP kicks it in high gear..... Historic NY Jul 2015 #34

Absolutely. It's sad campaigns can't be run on issues. jalan48 Jul 2015 #36

It's not coming. The GOP will remain silent about Bernie Sanders, sufrommich Jul 2015 #55

so who will be the next surrogate? Any guesses? nt antigop Jul 2015 #16

somebody noble and beloved like Rahm Emanuel perhaps! nt m-lekktor Jul 2015 #18

well, let's keep an eye out. nt antigop Jul 2015 #237

I'm not sure what constitutes a "surrogate," but David Axelrod has been throwing snide barbs Stardust Jul 2015 #295

interesting...thanks. nt antigop Jul 2015 #308

We told Claire why when we cancelled her emails after the hit job Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #20

That's Funny! Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #26

Yeah, I'm seeing some real hypersensitivity among Sanders supporters. Arkana Jul 2015 #32

McCaskill looked stupid AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #41

She exposed herself as a fiscal conservative NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #54

"I will say that I have seen pretty much respect from Hillary supporters on DU towards Bernie..." StandingInLeftField Jul 2015 #113

What do you think is going to happen? RichVRichV Jul 2015 #189

too extreme. too liberal. Doctor_J Jul 2015 #228

Wait, you don't know Senator Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, or you choose to ignore that? Babel_17 Jul 2015 #272

Tempest in a Teapot. Nitram Jul 2015 #27

So pointing out that Sanders' support is deep but narrow ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #31

In the Bernie Sanders forum all criticism is labeled a "lie" Nitram Jul 2015 #35

Examples? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #39

here's a personal example Sheepshank Jul 2015 #51

yes, there are no Clinton supporters that say or do stupid things either. Mass Jul 2015 #61

I doubt you and your entire group of supporters were called anything as offensive as "Zimmerman" Sheepshank Jul 2015 #65

My entire group of supporters? Mass Jul 2015 #69

yes, I meant a group of people. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #72

If it makes you feel better, I was banned from a group leveymg Jul 2015 #112

You were banned in the African American group Lisa D Jul 2015 #201

I said the tactic was out of the Lee Atwater play book. Go back and look. leveymg Jul 2015 #205

This one was ddirected at me. Nitram Jul 2015 #64

You called Sanders supporters, 'Sophomoric' in the Sanders group AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #68

Pointing out that "some" Sanders supporters have a sophomoric approach to politics does not mean... Nitram Jul 2015 #81

That wasn't criticism of Bernie you posted... hootinholler Jul 2015 #116

Good point, hoot. Nitram Jul 2015 #117

So which part of my reply to you was labeling your post a lie? hootinholler Jul 2015 #125

"You wouldn't want us to make things up about you now would you?" Nitram Jul 2015 #348

That was direct reference of your first insult: hootinholler Jul 2015 #359

The Clinton group pulls out the ban very, very, very quickly. jeff47 Jul 2015 #209

I can verify the tolerance of the Hillary Group, NONE . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #327

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #37

Hillary's "flying monkeys"? LOL, calling herr a witch is not going negative? Nitram Jul 2015 #95

Yeah,some of this crap isn't even trying to be subtle. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #98

It is a figure of speech AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #102

Oh, then that's not a smear. Sorry. Nitram Jul 2015 #105

+1 JoePhilly Jul 2015 #251

"smear campaign". Is that what they call the Clinton attacks as well? JohnnyRingo Jul 2015 #40

I think Clair was speak for Clair and she presumed to help the Clinton Candidacy Sheepshank Jul 2015 #42

McCaskill works for the "Ready For Hillary" Super-PAC. arcane1 Jul 2015 #86

I think it a bit much to compare one post by an anonymous DU poster to a sitting Senator's remarks. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #97

Amen JohnnyRingo Jul 2015 #293

It began a while ago. But so far it has totally backfired on THEM. They've tried the old Red sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #45

Don't forget the classic "He doesn't have enough money in his savings accounts" arcane1 Jul 2015 #255

Senator McCaskill barely qualifies as a Democrat. No surprise she sees Sanders as an extremist.\nt Mass Jul 2015 #49

The only thing that stops McCaskill for being the most embarrassing Senator from Missouri Gore1FL Jul 2015 #202

Typical hillary shit. She is EVIL. You would have to be blind not see that. bowens43 Jul 2015 #53

That's right, Bowen, remember she killed Vince Foster. Nitram Jul 2015 #99

You forgot the sarcasm tag. Metric System Jul 2015 #246

Let's keep this in mind if and when Hillary gets big crowds. She'll be just like Rand, Ron & Pat. L0oniX Jul 2015 #57

No, her huge crowds would prove just how popular she is. jeff47 Jul 2015 #313

I told yall so..... Cryptoad Jul 2015 #58

Hillary has no choice but to attack Sanders. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #67

The MSM hit machine reving up! blackspade Jul 2015 #62

They can do what they want. It's not going to help. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #71

The last paragraph in the article raises a great point hootinholler Jul 2015 #74

We Know The Answer - Oligarchs, Corporations, And Banks cantbeserious Jul 2015 #100

Well, Pelosi recently stated that Elizabeth Warren, NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #200

Excellent post. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #324

This is politics gwheezie Jul 2015 #104

It is just politics as usual. RichVRichV Jul 2015 #199

I thought Bernie said he was not going to run a smear campaign but perhaps some did not get Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #187

The topic of the article doesn't suggest he is the one smearing. Rather he's the one being smeared. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #198

Sounds like Bernie has begun a smear campaign. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #204

Only if you misread the headline and ignore the article. n/t Gore1FL Jul 2015 #208

Did you read the OP? arcane1 Jul 2015 #257

Are they "freeking" over fredamae Jul 2015 #206

Your own opinion is a good one, in my opinion. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #325

This is the flip side of Bernie's big day yesterday. His success guarantees attacks. pa28 Jul 2015 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jul 2015 #240

I've kept up on politics for Decades. I've known who Sanders is and have for years. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #256

Puff pieces? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #258

This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jul 2015 #270

His sub-reddit has almost 55,000 subscribers. Hilary has 303 or something like that. djean111 Jul 2015 #299

I think our party can't see the forest for the trees (we need the youth vote) Babel_17 Jul 2015 #259

Wow! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #328

"It's almost as if they don't care if Democrats win." I suspect there are many Dem politicians who GoneFishin Jul 2015 #331

Nice of you to say, thanks! Babel_17 Jul 2015 #336

+1 enigmatic Jul 2015 #341

I wouldn't be surprised if sooner or later there's a lawsuit filed by someone who's "not affiliated" cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #296

just decided.... quickesst Jul 2015 #304

CNN is an infomercial for Chris Christie upi402 Jul 2015 #305

The coronation will not be televised. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #312

GOP tried to use that "popular is bad" trick on Obama. It didn't fly yurbud Jul 2015 #314

I think that what some people dont realize... padfun Jul 2015 #316

It's a campaign. You get criticized. Happens to all of 'em. bluestateguy Jul 2015 #320

bull stonecutter357 Jul 2015 #321

I can't wait for the debates SmittynMo Jul 2015 #330

Witness today's NYT article: Bernie Sanders’s Revolutionary Roots Were Nurtured in ’60s Vermont Fritz Walter Jul 2015 #332

A crowd of Jimmy James's, but without the likability :) Babel_17 Jul 2015 #337

So, ONE comment by ONE Clinton supporter last week is an ongoing smear campaign... brooklynite Jul 2015 #350

There are multiple Hillary smear campaigns from both sides liberal N proud Jul 2015 #351

i don't think he can survive the gun thing in the long run arely staircase Jul 2015 #360