2016 Postmortem

Jefferson23

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22. One main problem with that interview is the question she was asked. CNN asked her

Sun Jul 5, 2015, 11:43 AM

Jul 2015

a willfully stupid question, based on a bullshit presumption that Iran intends to have/will
have nukes and will therefore use them against Israel if they accomplished that alleged
goal.

It is a dishonest conversation from the beginning, Americans are fed a diet of nonsense
by the MSM.

I am not giving Clinton a pass, but she is correct, that would be US response, and that
is also why Iran, who is not suicidal, is not pursuing nukes, what they do want and their
history from our coup decades ago taught them not to trust us, is a level of deterrence.

None of that is discussed.

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Disturbing Hawkishness from Hillary Clinton. Is this her true belief or is it merely [View all] Indepatriot Jul 2015 OP

Would it have been possible to explain what this is in reference to? brooklynite Jul 2015 #1

Never mind; I see this was something from 8 years ago... brooklynite Jul 2015 #2

So you're saying she's "evolved" on this issue? If she has I'd like to know. Did she apologize for Indepatriot Jul 2015 #7

Back at Hillary 3.0? MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #45

So nothing she has said in the past still stands? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #53

Depends on whether there's any evidence to suggest it's still relevant. brooklynite Jul 2015 #55

Previous position statements are relevent AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #57

Maybe this: Hillary Clinton: �If I�m President, We Will Attack Iran� no_hypocrisy Jul 2015 #3

What would Senator Sanders do if Iran dropped a nuclear bomb on one of our allies?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #5

Why don't you ask him? My belief is that he would take appropriate action. "Total Obliteration" Indepatriot Jul 2015 #12

What do you think the appropriate reaction to genocide would be?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #14

Honestly, I'm not quite sure, but I am sure more genocide is not the appropriate response. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #27

that's not a great answer qazplm Jul 2015 #54

Bringing those responsible for the genocide to justice. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #37

Russia has some 8,000 or so nuclear warheads. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #46

'What difference would it make'? If he used "all of them"...the planet is toast anyway. eom Purveyor Jul 2015 #82

The whole point of my argument is that he nor we would use them because using them ... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #83

This is an example HassleCat Jul 2015 #44

thanks! you took the words out of my fingertips Voice for Peace Jul 2015 #81

You took it out of context. Are you that afraid of Clinton that you will distort and twist? Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #6

I read the link. I don't care what the context is, advocating Total Obliteration of any nation is Indepatriot Jul 2015 #8

What would Senator Sanders do if Iran dropped a nuclear bomb on one of our allies?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #10

crickets, of course n/t MoonRiver Jul 2015 #26

I suspect many here are not aware that Bernie is a strong supporter of Israel. He believes in a two still_one Jul 2015 #30

Which is where most Americans are./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #32

of course, as is every single Democratic nominee. The only candidate that I am aware of that might still_one Jul 2015 #36

There you have it ladies and gentleman Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #16

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #17

I did not twist or distort anything. "Total Obliteration" of millions of innocents is unacceptable Indepatriot Jul 2015 #21

By the way, welcome to DU Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #23

I've been "here" since 2007. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #35

Casually advocate....there you go again... Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #41

"Casually Advocate" Agschmid Jul 2015 #49

"Total obliteration is unacceptable" AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #58

"If Iran attacks Israel" you can bet your house that Sanders wouldn't sit back and do nothing. OKNancy Jul 2015 #9

So doing nothing is the only alternative to obliteration? GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #40

It's called "Black and white thinking" AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #60

Ah very interesting link!!! mylye2222 Jul 2015 #47

**IF** Iran attacks Israel Martin Eden Jul 2015 #52

Israel has hundreds of A-bombs, and is the only one (ambiguously) threatening to use them. leveymg Jul 2015 #69

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This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jul 2015 #11

Context is completely provided by both the link and the narration. Call me a dove if you Indepatriot Jul 2015 #15

Almost every candidate has voted for war. Agschmid Jul 2015 #19

OP FAIL. Agschmid Jul 2015 #13

Sanders: I'm not "going to let some damn war cost me the election." Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jul 2015 #20

Oh noooos! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #28

I don't think so. Bernie is not a pacifist, and he never said he was. still_one Jul 2015 #31

The OP is not about Sanders. It is about HRC's own words about "totally obliterating" Iran. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #50

Actually, it is about words and actions Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #51

Are you saying that actual video of HRC's own words are ''twisted and distorted"? Was the video Indepatriot Jul 2015 #56

Her hawkisnness Nite Owl Jul 2015 #85

One main problem with that interview is the question she was asked. CNN asked her Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #22

I agree with you that the press is nearly useless and that the question itself was hyperbolic. But Indepatriot Jul 2015 #24

Yes, but she is only stating what would happen and she is correct..that's what we'd probably do. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #25

The idea of Iran nuking Israel, or any other country, MoonRiver Jul 2015 #29

I would assume then, that Hillary blithely advocating "Total Annihilation" of Iran would Indepatriot Jul 2015 #43

I don't know what she actually said or the context. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #61

I think "totally obliterate them" coming from her own lips, on videotape, is pretty clear. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #71

Context is everything, unless you're on a mission to smear someone. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #74

Which nation has actually employed nuclear weapons against a civilian population? Fumesucker Jul 2015 #62

That has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #63

You were speaking of your fear of Iran using nukes Fumesucker Jul 2015 #64

"Logic" we don't need no stinking logic.... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #68

Details,details... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #65

That is why in general politicians avoid "hypothetical" questions. In this case, as you pointed out still_one Jul 2015 #34

Yes, and another reason I can't stand the MSM..they do not serve what is suppose to be their Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #38

I absolutely agree still_one Jul 2015 #39

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran�" tularetom Jul 2015 #33

This is the problem with half truths Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #73

Please do not accuse me of posting "half-truths". I provided a link with a complete question/answer Indepatriot Jul 2015 #76

If you are worried about who is hawkish why would you try to demean DNC candidates? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #42

Please explain to me how sharing a link that provides both context and a full, unedited quote Indepatriot Jul 2015 #48

Yes, the nation must base its voting preference on your mind reading pronouncements Sheepshank Jul 2015 #59

Are you saying that a candidate's statement that they would "totally obliterate" another country Indepatriot Jul 2015 #66

Unfortunately unless you block them, anyone is entitled to respond to this OP. Agschmid Jul 2015 #67

I'm trying to get as many folks involved in the conversation as possible. I merely observed that Indepatriot Jul 2015 #70

You may be trying to get people involved... Agschmid Jul 2015 #72

So you're saying that discussing a candidate's own words and positions is somehow Indepatriot Jul 2015 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Jul 2015 #77

"All I did was post a video of her answering a question." asjr Jul 2015 #79

As did I until I was accused of "distorting" "smearing" "demeaning" ad nauseum.....Seems any Indepatriot Jul 2015 #80

Here since 2007..What words did I put in anyone's mouth. Examples please or it is you who is Indepatriot Jul 2015 #84

A Democrat is a hawk? FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Clinton would be shocked! wyldwolf Jul 2015 #78