2016 Postmortem

PoliticAverse

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17. Well first he has to win the Democratic Primary, against better known, better financed opponent(s))

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:25 AM

Jul 2015

who can do some good populist rhetoric also.

Case in point: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/the-four-fights/economy-of-tomorrow/

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Hillary Has The Money � Bernie Has The Credibility � History Not On Hillary�s Side [View all] RiverLover Jul 2015 OP

K&R..... daleanime Jul 2015 #1

43+ point lead. Obama at this same time was only 10 points behind. onehandle Jul 2015 #2

You confuse reality with certainty. zeemike Jul 2015 #13

The Reality is that if Hillary really cared about America's future, pocoloco Jul 2015 #25

make that your mantra.. frylock Jul 2015 #64

My guess is that Sanders may win in New Hampshire, and that's all. He'll be out of the race.... George II Jul 2015 #73

We the People WILL do this. 99Forever Jul 2015 #3

Obama actually raised more money than McCain. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #4

That's true, the author should have just stuck with the Romney example. RiverLover Jul 2015 #6

However, without his money, Romney NewJeffCT Jul 2015 #44

And Bernie actually has raised more money at this part of the campaign than Obama too! cascadiance Jul 2015 #78

The Elite are in for MORE Mitt Romeny Moments Demeter Jul 2015 #5

Will you be doing the hanging? LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #84

What are Jeb's chances? Darb Jul 2015 #7

Jeb's chances aren't good against any Democrat. RiverLover Jul 2015 #10

Although I would like to believe Jeb's chances are bad, it really is much too early to say that. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #11

It is rare when I disagree with you zeemike Jul 2015 #15

Those are some good points. Very good. /nt RiverLover Jul 2015 #20

Your assertion is belied by the data: DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #39

Well interesting but nothing definitive. zeemike Jul 2015 #63

Yeah! Why can't the majority of Democrats who support Clinton unify the Party... brooklynite Jul 2015 #56

In Pittsburgh, party hacks outspent opponent 10x in primary; LOST BIG TIME! Divernan Jul 2015 #8

Love this^^^ RiverLover Jul 2015 #12

Meanwhile Hillary, who won PA in 2008, is 45 points ahead. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #18

Misty, water-colored memories. Winds of change have swept PA! Divernan Jul 2015 #30

A dead horse could have beaten Corbett. onehandle Jul 2015 #33

He beat old-style Dems in the primary;Clinton in-law lost big time. Divernan Jul 2015 #42

Your article said that Margolies ran a lackluster campaign.... George II Jul 2015 #71

"Warren is on the verge of joining the Sanders campaign" is wishful thinking. winter is coming Jul 2015 #9

Indeed. Several people have posted in the past that Warren had endorsed Hillary for President. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #16

Dunno who that was. Warren did sign a letter urging Hillary to run. onehandle Jul 2015 #36

She hasn't formally endorsed Clinton, but she's said everything she could just short of it. George II Jul 2015 #72

Bernie Sanders will win marym625 Jul 2015 #14

Well first he has to win the Democratic Primary, against better known, better financed opponent(s)) PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #17

Yes, but with Bernie it isn't just empty rhetoric designed to win votes. Its his truth. RiverLover Jul 2015 #19

Great minds and all marym625 Jul 2015 #22

The difference between LWolf Jul 2015 #83

Yes, the rhetoric forced upon her marym625 Jul 2015 #21

LOL. Like minds RiverLover Jul 2015 #24

I prefer great marym625 Jul 2015 #26

This rhetoric Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #45

More talk of "huge crowds"....he's a novelty that people want to see, not necessarily vote for. George II Jul 2015 #23

Yeah, people often drive hundreds of miles, marym625 Jul 2015 #27

Not many did all that. George II Jul 2015 #34

2 words: Ron Paul. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #35

I have read that's the official Clinton response.(They also like to use Nadar as a spoiler example.) RiverLover Jul 2015 #38

I don't know anything about "official Clinton response" Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #41

Every time a primary candidate Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #47

Cool story! Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #49

I am trying to point out facts Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #57

Well, your facts were incorrect. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #60

hillary's support of fracking is one of the things my questionseverything Jul 2015 #81

Very well put... George II Jul 2015 #50

...or posting loyalty oaths. frylock Jul 2015 #66

Where have you "read that"? George II Jul 2015 #46

... RiverLover Jul 2015 #52

Neither of those articles mentions Nader, and only the second one mentions Ron Paul, almost... George II Jul 2015 #58

You need to read better. RiverLover Jul 2015 #61

True, I didn't read the article (not interested, to be honest), I used "FIND" in Chrome..... George II Jul 2015 #62

Ron Paul's largest crowd was 8500 at UCLA.. frylock Jul 2015 #65

He still DOMINATED social media a few years ago. n/t Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #68

You so funny! Divernan Jul 2015 #31

~ L0oniX Jul 2015 #43

That's one thing you can't buy. Trustability. Bonobo Jul 2015 #28

I disagree with the premise that Clinton does not have credibiity. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #29

Exactly. Its a 'Not Hillary' piece. Nothing more. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #32

It's as if repeating "Bernie Will Win" over and over redstateblues Jul 2015 #37

Well DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #40

I'd say from history overconfidence is a problem in the Clinton camp davidpdx Jul 2015 #53

based solely on opinion, as well as enthusiastic crowds at campaign events.. frylock Jul 2015 #67

Hillary is very creditible, in fact the same positions Bernie is taking are the same as Hillary. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #55

When Hilary ran for the nomination last time and lost to Obama.... olegramps Jul 2015 #59

Then why does she poll so poorly on trust? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #70

because she has been attacked endlessly for a decade by RW Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #82

Not just money HassleCat Jul 2015 #48

Nixon wasn't especially likeable and he owns the largest pop vote/Electoral College landslide in... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #51

Sorry HassleCat Jul 2015 #54

Never say never! But they do underestimate the anger of the American people, Bernie did not sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #69

I also think that mainstream everybody is really underestimating the anger out here. I may Nay Jul 2015 #74

I think we are right. I think the reason for Bernie's growing support is sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #75

But can he harness that anger and prevent other Democratic primary opponents PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #79

They won't be able to harness that anger because no other opponent has Bernie's Nay Jul 2015 #80

and Martin O'Malley has the experience. elleng Jul 2015 #76

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2015 #77