2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Lets be clear about Bernie vs Hillary [View all]calimary
(88,902 posts)I like Bernie Sanders a lot. If he beats Hillary to the nomination I will certainly support him. But one of my concerns about him - and it's as objective as I can be - is the "socialist" part of his "Democratic Socialist" self-label.
I myself do not have ANY problems with the "socialist" label. NONE. Sometimes socialist ideas are the best for serving the greater good. Social Security and Medicare come immediately to mind. I know enough about Bernie Sanders NOT to be afraid of that big bug-a-boo word that has been used to scare so many Americans absolutely stupid. If there's any doubt, please go back and savor some of the photos from any one of the bajillion teabagger rallies - where you inevitably find ding-dongs carrying their badly-spelled homemade signs, many of which will roar "Keep your hands off MY MEDICARE!!!" Well, those sign-holders do not realize, and will refuse to concede if you argue it with them, that what they want hands-off - is a SOCIALIST program. It doesn't scare me in the LEAST. I actually rather like it.
His self-declared "socialist" identifier doesn't scare me off one bit. But I bet it'll be toxic to vast numbers of ill-informed voters in this thoroughly dumbed-down electorate we're stuck with. They'll run from it in sheer panic. They'll be voting with their little heads, not the big one centered above their shoulders. It will be off-putting. That is a hurdle he may not be able to jump if he makes it as far as the general election. That's not his fault. It's the fault of the idiot low-information, easily-spooked, conspiracy-panicked, neurotic voters out there in the red states. I fear that's guaranteed to put whatever CON is the nominee over the top.
It's not him. It's the idiots out there in low-information Pox Noise/limbaugh Land. Who don't get it, and WON'T get it. Especially with a gazillion attack ads ramming "SOCIALISM!!!!!!" down their throats at every commercial break on every network and cable channel they watch, roaring at them that the whole country's gonna be taken over by COMMIES!!!! They'll be convinced it's no less than Josef Stalin rising from the grave to run over all the white people and shove Putin and Vladimir Lenin and Karl Marx down their throats. It will scare people away who can't understand and don't pay attention - except exclusively to the noisy gongs and clanging cymbals on the far wrong. They'll hear "SOCIALISM!!!" and it will liquify whatever brain matter they thought they had inside their thick skulls - even when he's talking about things they like and might want. I mean - look at the Affordable Care Act and how it's helping so many of THEM - and most of 'em still hate it because the propaganda they swallow whole insists that it's the worst thing since Original Sin. They'll be scared stupider - if that's even possible. Count on it.