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JoePhilly

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Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:38 AM

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CNBC and Bureau of Labor Statistics...the real unemployment rate. Not just Bernie's word on it. [View all] madfloridian Jul 2015 OP

Thanks. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #1

I'm suprised it's not higher Hydra Jul 2015 #2

More RW talking points at DU to deflect from the economic progress made ....did someone forget to close the Trojan Gate? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #3

At the peak of the recession U 6 was 17.1!!! DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #4

SO if the right mentions it that means we can't discuss it even if it's a valid point? madfloridian Jul 2015 #6

It's only valid when you actually explain the U6 numbers... Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #11

"Saying the REAL unemployment rate is above 10% is shocking because we've been conditioned..." madfloridian Jul 2015 #13

He didn't talk about it honestly, tho. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #15

I vowed to not get negative. madfloridian Jul 2015 #16

Am I supposed to be scared? Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #18

The unemployed who are no longer listed on rolls...betcha they believe it's true. madfloridian Jul 2015 #21

He absolutely is being dishonest. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #40

Are you scared? Of what? madfloridian Jul 2015 #65

It's pretty clear he mislead... Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #68

He spoke the truth. He is NOT right wing. I am NOT right wing. That is disgusting. madfloridian Jul 2015 #70

LOL no he didn't... Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #73

please do not let them get to you questionseverything Jul 2015 #59

Nothing I or any Bernie supporter posted through the years matters now. madfloridian Jul 2015 #62

Are 10% of workers unemployed or not? As just a person, not some mathematician who sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #48

It means they have a motive when they "the right" make it news. Agschmid Jul 2015 #27

The question was how many PEOPLE are actually out of work. That's all people care about. The Left sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #49

Excellent observation. The fact is.... George II Jul 2015 #7

Better shut up, Bernie. It doesn't matter what you say.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #8

To the 6% who many cannot even collect welfare what difference does 9%-6% mean? Stargazer99 Jul 2015 #54

It means that the 3% did NOT lose their homes, cars, healthcare, etc.... George II Jul 2015 #55

It means 3% is OK? Stargazer99 Jul 2015 #56

Is that the bottom line? YES, the 3% is okay, but we haven't stopped working because of that... George II Jul 2015 #57

then, damn it, if they can't received unempoyment-give them something to live on Stargazer99 Jul 2015 #76

That last sentence is exactly why Bernie Sanders is gaining on the front runner. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #22

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2015 #72

In other words...."I just got a 10% raise and a 15% bonus" does NOT mean the economy is booming! George II Jul 2015 #77

They didn't just question, they went a bit wack over it. SoapBox Jul 2015 #5

Sorry, but Bernie is also manipulating numbers. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #9

I know, shame on him. Right?? madfloridian Jul 2015 #10

Well wages are higher than they were a few years ago. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #12

Drunken Irishman just made a great point about historical U6 Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #14

Oh, I have responses. Oh yes, many. madfloridian Jul 2015 #17

What resolution? Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #19

..... madfloridian Jul 2015 #20

All the other DUer did was point out some very simple historical facts about U6 Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #24

Back at you LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #69

Funny, when Bush was president we had no problem pointing out the FACT the in the US sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #23

It changed when along came Bernie. madfloridian Jul 2015 #25

And this is why he has been so successful so far, because people do not feel they are just a sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #26

I was going to post just this. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #28

Yes, I remember it well. We were outraged that they were 'fudging the numbers' to try to make Bush sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #29

Only the people who did not know the difference I am sure. But I can guarantee this, Darb Jul 2015 #30

Exactly. If Bernie wants to debate which metric to use that's fine. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #32

Bernie talks about PEOPLE. He doesn't talk about 'metrics' whatever that means. And that is why he sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #43

He absolutely DID talk about a metric. UE is a MERTIC. Geeze. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #52

Are 10% of Americans unemployed or not, this isn't a difficult thing to understand sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #58

Is 10% a HIGH number or a LOW number when one looks at the HISTORIC values of this metric? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #60

UE3 is fudging the numbers? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #33

Oh yes there was a BIG change. Autumn Jul 2015 #35

By fact you mean bullshit lie, right? whatthehey Jul 2015 #36

Did you just call me a liar for stating a FACT which from your profile you would not sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #44

To help you, I will bold the bullshit lie I refuted from your post whatthehey Jul 2015 #46

You are now doubling down on calling another DUer a liar, and adding that it is 'intentional' sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #47

Wow, such vitriol from someone who is so completely wrong. tritsofme Jul 2015 #67

Everyone had a problem talking about the U6 numbers. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #41

Unemployed people are unemployed people and this isn't a political football to kick around. You are sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #45

LOL it is a political football to kick around and that's what the right and Bernie are doing. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #64

Stop it with your facts!!! JoePhilly Jul 2015 #53

You are incorrect. U3 unemployment is not based at all on receipt of unemployment benefits. tritsofme Jul 2015 #66

Great response. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #34

U6 is a government number. jeff47 Jul 2015 #38

And THAT is shameful isn't it? That in one of the richest countries in the world, jobs are being sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #50

What's the trend look like and how does it correlate with the traditional measure? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #31

No, the RW likes to use U6 during Democratic administrations, and U3 during Republican admins. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #39

So he means U6, measured and published for decades along with U3 whatthehey Jul 2015 #37

Oh look ibegurpard Jul 2015 #42

The figures back Bernie up...he's still called a liar. And I am attacked for posting the figures. madfloridian Jul 2015 #51

This is false U5 and U6 Down year over year!!!! uponit7771 Jul 2015 #75

Bernie failed to mention that the "real unemployment rate" (u6) has been dropping dramatically.. DCBob Jul 2015 #61

+1!!! ****DING DING DING***** Same bullshit in 2000 IMHO uponit7771 Jul 2015 #74

Kick! FloriTexan Jul 2015 #63

***U5 and U6 rate both down*** if Bernie is hinting at Obama's recover then he's no fuckin better... uponit7771 Jul 2015 #71