2016 Postmortem

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51. I don't think it's probably that difficult to figure out

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 04:47 PM

Jul 2015

Although he has caucused with the Democrats since coming to the Senate, he has not been a Democrat, and has refused the Democratic nomination of the party in his state. So my assumption (and feel free to slap me if I'm wrong) is that he hasn't raised money or campaigned for other Democrats around the country, as so many Democratic senators do. (Note a recent thread that describes how the new senator Barack Obama, did however, go to Vermont to campaign for Sanders).

By contrast (and this again is my assumption), Hillary Clinton raised a lot of money for the party and other individual Democrats during her years as a senator.

This is not some kind of quid pro quo, though: it's what being a member of a political party means. It's not only about ideology or policy positions. It's about on-the-ground support for the party's work and that of its members. It's just how it works.

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How come Bernie Sanders has zero Congressional endorsements? [View all] Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 OP

Chris Christie had a few New Jersey democratic politicians endorse him over the still_one Jul 2015 #1

Endorsements mean a LOT when it's a superdelegate endorsing you. MADem Jul 2015 #53

Are they super delegates? I thought super delegates are chosen during the primaries? still_one Jul 2015 #75

Could it be the rest are fishing out of the same money bucket for their own interests? TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #78

+1. And because he tells the truth also which is not well liked or profitable. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #148

The Real Deal and Not to be Underestimated appalachiablue Jul 2015 #153

Bernie Sanders is the Real Deal madokie Jul 2015 #158

+5 Sanders is the Real Deal and he will be president. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #180

BINGO!!!! without meaning to he shows up their inequities . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #227

From the link: MADem Jul 2015 #79

I should have read it, thanks still_one Jul 2015 #88

yes they are karynnj Jul 2015 #175

yes they are super delegates dsc Jul 2015 #234

There's an ever so slight difference when it's a Primary endorsement... brooklynite Jul 2015 #114

I did not say they were irrelevant. They may influence some people's decision, but I don't still_one Jul 2015 #154

As the Duke would have said...... Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #2

he isn't running to win JI7 Jul 2015 #3

this has been posited and debunked restorefreedom Jul 2015 #70

Thank you. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #74

it is part of the effort to discredit him restorefreedom Jul 2015 #77

Bernie won't get in the sandbox wifh the Koch Brothers! TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #80

Thanks, that's absolutely correct. Sanders is amazing the more I follow him.. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #181

Sanders is counting on a populist wave to back his play. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #118

Obviously not, since he has not picked up a single super-delegate, and assuming it was a close race, MADem Jul 2015 #166

Agree. He is running to have a public voice, not to win. But don't tell the RNC. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #250

Why don't you tell us, Cali_Democrat Scootaloo Jul 2015 #4

+1,000,000 .... Trajan Jul 2015 #8

I really don't know. Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #9

They are afraid to stick their necks out virtualobserver Jul 2015 #16

^^ THIS ^^ Qutzupalotl Jul 2015 #50

Exactly! dflprincess Jul 2015 #233

I'm curious, what exactly hinges on Congressional endorsements? NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #92

Unnnnh.... SUPERDELEGATES? Hello? MADem Jul 2015 #167

Challenging the system.... daleanime Jul 2015 #5

'Professional' Dems aren't going to support him publicly, elleng Jul 2015 #6

It seems that regular citizens are endorsing him on a regular basis Trajan Jul 2015 #7

Well, now that you mention it, you can consider this MY official endorsement of Bernard Sanders PatrickforO Jul 2015 #127

I'd like to add my name to the list. This is my official endorsement of Bernie Sanders for POTUS. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #137

747 of 5,083 delegates in the Democratic Primary are Super Delegates, each endorsement Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #10

Yes, and if the popular vote is FOR Bernie, they would oppose him at their peril peacebird Jul 2015 #251

We won't know that for some time yet. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #254

How come Congress has a 16% approval rating? leveymg Jul 2015 #11

the public does not have any faith in Congress Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #45

It would be like being endorsed by a convention of used car salesmen. leveymg Jul 2015 #48

I don't care kenfrequed Jul 2015 #12

They DO vote at the Democratic National Convention, though. MADem Jul 2015 #169

Simple. Fear of CLinton revenge. Peregrine Took Jul 2015 #13

how come it didn't work with Obama ? if Clintons have all this power JI7 Jul 2015 #15

How many congressional endorsements did Obama have in July 2007? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #19

not for the 2008 elections JI7 Jul 2015 #27

not conspiracy, it is just politics n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #30

by next year Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #95

I've already said he can't deliver the stuff he is proposing. He needs congressfolks behind him even stevenleser Jul 2015 #14

No Democrat will get better treatement than President Obama from Republicans. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #17

I agree. So whats the point of fighting to try and overcome Hillary with Sanders only to stevenleser Jul 2015 #20

We need a Democrat in the Whitehouse who will stop Republicans from dismanteling everything. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #29

We are in 100% agreement. That is what this election is about. It's not about which Democrat is stevenleser Jul 2015 #33

But we will feel better "winning by losing" ... You know, that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #49

So you believe Sanders will lose to... Who? Trump? Walker? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #69

HRC or O'malley. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #82

Then what on earth does this mean: Scootaloo Jul 2015 #83

"We" is those that would risk a General Election lose because the weaker ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #85

Oh, so now it's the general election, which brings us to my initial question Scootaloo Jul 2015 #86

In every poll with Sanders, they're all beating him. With the exception of California stevenleser Jul 2015 #105

It's called coveting the struggle LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #104

I believe that argument means your core values are negotiable Fairgo Jul 2015 #91

+1 n/t A Little Weird Jul 2015 #112

Yes, because smoothing the path for a GOP victory is just so "pure" and high minded. MADem Jul 2015 #171

I Respect the intention Fairgo Jul 2015 #183

Values are useless if the enemy is calling all the shots. MADem Jul 2015 #186

I've said this - this ain't "The Voice" or "Survivor" or any of the reality crap. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #235

Yes...YES....YES!!!! Sheepshank Jul 2015 #184

Polling already shows that Sanders will lose to Walker... brooklynite Jul 2015 #117

well we might as well skip the convention then. June 2015 has spoken and we must obey Scootaloo Jul 2015 #122

..a meme that only the Sanders people have pushed... brooklynite Jul 2015 #125

Well, which way do you want it? Are the current polls the final word or not? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #135

Protecting existing programs is not losing. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #81

Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #84

Yeah, that's it Depaysement Jul 2015 #177

I'll tell you what the point is Scootaloo Jul 2015 #67

^ This is astute! immoderate Jul 2015 #103

You're disregarding several important points and engaging in wishful thinking stevenleser Jul 2015 #109

Three points davidpdx Jul 2015 #172

AND, to piggy-back on what you're saying PatrickforO Jul 2015 #124

Because Bernie hits the reset button on the whole corrupt conversation. It's not necessarily about Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #138

Nobody can except for Republican ideas. mmonk Jul 2015 #18

And that's my point. We will have a GOP House until Jan 2023 at the earliest and probably until stevenleser Jul 2015 #24

Then by logic it doesn't matter if Sanders is chosen over Clinton. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #31

Correct. But why the fight to try? What is that effort going to get you? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #34

It demonstrates that "liberals can't win" is a lie. jeff47 Jul 2015 #56

Do the rest of Sanders supporters know thats the only thing they are fighting for? I doubt it. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #58

It isn't the only thing Sanders supporters are fighting for. It's addressing your specific question jeff47 Jul 2015 #73

I'm thinking the effort will get me a president Ron Green Jul 2015 #57

See my #58 nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #61

Or not carry on Republican friendly policies like avoiding real mmonk Jul 2015 #37

your Jan 2023 prediction is only true if Democrats continue to pump out the same stale rhetoric..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #38

Won't matter. Republican congresscritters get cred from their base by opposing Dem Presidents stevenleser Jul 2015 #41

that will change virtualobserver Jul 2015 #42

See my #43 below. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #44

You judge Sanders by what Republicans will and will not support? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #21

Nope, that is not my point. See my #24 above. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #25

Then we begin our work on primarying those who are beholden to DLC Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #23

That won't take back the House from the GOP. Only redistricting will. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #26

You'll let us know when that primarying starts, right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #119

I'm with you, but who can we get to 'primary' that empty-suit Bennet? PatrickforO Jul 2015 #128

Obama didn't use the bully pulpit, Bernie will. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #35

Wont matter. GOP Reps get cred from their base by opposing a Democratic President. It helps them stevenleser Jul 2015 #36

only in the boring, scripted DNC universe virtualobserver Jul 2015 #40

And what makes you think that bit of wishful thinking will pan out? stevenleser Jul 2015 #43

There are some that are.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #47

In other words, its wishful thinking that has no basis in his past ability to execute it. stevenleser Jul 2015 #54

the available evidence supports me virtualobserver Jul 2015 #68

"one person says something, the GOP base will suddenly change their minds" aspirant Jul 2015 #87

Give it up already...do you follow SL around on purpose? This is creepy. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #94

Yep. All of that. Nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #97

hypocrisy is very creepy aspirant Jul 2015 #107

Sheepshank is right. Your behavior is creepy and deserves a spot on my ignore list. stevenleser Jul 2015 #110

Fox propaganda is very,very creepy aspirant Jul 2015 #111

No, I respond to you too aspirant Jul 2015 #102

You repeatedly trying to claim something nepharious about his appearance on fox Sheepshank Jul 2015 #139

Fox propaganda is very creepy and very odd too. aspirant Jul 2015 #141

Just making it obvious you have some really weird agenda. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #185

Do you have unresolved parenting issues? aspirant Jul 2015 #187

Still avoiding...and it's pretty freaking obvious Sheepshank Jul 2015 #188

I'm responding, not avoiding aspirant Jul 2015 #189

Your response is not what was asked. You continue the same tack. Nt Sheepshank Jul 2015 #191

Free speech is limitless aspirant Jul 2015 #193

Dip dodge dive...more of the same Sheepshank Jul 2015 #194

Dodging your inner failings aspirant Jul 2015 #196

Losing enterprise. Your tack is exposed Sheepshank Jul 2015 #197

Is "poor poopsie" a personal attack too aspirant Jul 2015 #198

It's a term of endearment. So many posts trends are missed...I didn't miss your trend. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #199

"term of endearment" not my definition aspirant Jul 2015 #201

No, your constant Rovian attacks on a long time du'er is not leftist. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #207

"Rovian attacks" aspirant Jul 2015 #209

Yet what you were doing were snide innuendos Sheepshank Jul 2015 #210

How about HRC's innuendos about Obama, aspirant Jul 2015 #211

This is about you, not HRC or Obama Sheepshank Jul 2015 #212

I "claim" Bernie as my candidate aspirant Jul 2015 #214

Figures Bernie is your guy...assuming his noble stand as touted by his supporters Sheepshank Jul 2015 #215

"noble stand" how nice of you to recognize. aspirant Jul 2015 #216

Well just another thing you got wrong Sheepshank Jul 2015 #217

"assume" aspirant Jul 2015 #218

Yup got banned......for reposting jury results Sheepshank Jul 2015 #219

The disagreeing world is wrong, you know best aspirant Jul 2015 #220

Dip dodge & attempt to belittle......you're not that good at it Sheepshank Jul 2015 #221

I don't have to "attempt", you "belittle" yourself aspirant Jul 2015 #223

Ok....keep avoiding the true topic at hand. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #224

So you are confirming aspirant Jul 2015 #225

Lol Sheepshank Jul 2015 #226

Confirmation with laughter is good therapy aspirant Jul 2015 #228

Seriously, 5 times you personally insult my mental health? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #229

Do you need help? Admitting it is the beginning aspirant Jul 2015 #230

More Rovian tactics. He must be so proud of you! Sheepshank Jul 2015 #231

Rove is interested in your mental health? aspirant Jul 2015 #232

What a very clever come back Sheepshank Jul 2015 #236

Probabilities are for the mathematicians aspirant Jul 2015 #237

In other words, he'll get the same treatment the other Dems would get n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #65

I hear what you're saying, but what if you and I and hundreds of thousands of other PatrickforO Jul 2015 #121

Wouldn't help. The repugs in the House are from safe gerrymandered districts. We can't touch them. stevenleser Jul 2015 #123

Well, there you have it! Bernie is calling for a political revolution, but there's no 'they' PatrickforO Jul 2015 #126

The districts won't be redrawn until after the 2020 census stevenleser Jul 2015 #129

Well, then, let's get Bernie in there and march. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #131

I mean, Steven, wouldn't you rather go out slugging rather than just acquiesce to oligarchy and a PatrickforO Jul 2015 #132

That's where you're wrong. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #182

We already know HRC can't get GOP votes for anything. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #160

How come Leahy and Welch are not emdorsing him? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #22

Maybe they've all been purchased already. polichick Jul 2015 #28

They dont dare, not unless and until Bernie gets the nomination, this is basic party randys1 Jul 2015 #32

I do not think that this means Bernie has no allies. Not at all. djean111 Jul 2015 #39

Because Bernie is an outsider who hasn't been in Congress very long. zappaman Jul 2015 #46

24 years I thought? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #55

I don't think so. zappaman Jul 2015 #59

LOL, I get it now, you were being sarcastic. And I agree. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #63

They aren't endorsing him okasha Jul 2015 #98

Two!?! zappaman Jul 2015 #99

Formindable! okasha Jul 2015 #100

I first worked on the Hill in '93 and he was already there Recursion Jul 2015 #170

I don't think it's probably that difficult to figure out frazzled Jul 2015 #51

maybe same reason kucinich didn't have any JI7 Jul 2015 #52

None of the Mn Reps are endorsing her as yet, but geardaddy Jul 2015 #60

Keith Ellison is not going to endorse Bernie Sanders underthematrix Jul 2015 #145

Ah, the "Just sayin'" approach matt819 Jul 2015 #62

The numbers of 115-0 are not very good. Who should know Bernie and worked side by side with Bernie Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #64

Hmmm, sounds like a whole lot of congress critters aren't endorsing Hillary. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #66

Obama first endorsement was... Stellar Jul 2015 #71

"if you have to ask, you can't afford it." restorefreedom Jul 2015 #72

I would think it's a little early for endorsements. Vinca Jul 2015 #76

No--endorsements are needed as quickly as one can get them. MADem Jul 2015 #89

But they are not the votes cast in the primary. Vinca Jul 2015 #163

Are you unclear as to how the system works? I am getting that impression from your remarks. MADem Jul 2015 #164

I understand how the system works. Vinca Jul 2015 #195

That won't happen--I can promise you that-- but in a situation where MADem Jul 2015 #238

But it is not unheard of for superdelegates to switch. Vinca Jul 2015 #241

Your example is of two candidates who were both Democrats, vying for superdelegates. MADem Jul 2015 #242

If Clinton implodes, Biden will be drafted. Vinca Jul 2015 #243

Maybe not. Biden is admired as a VP--he doesn't get much love as a potential candidate. MADem Jul 2015 #244

Orders from on high. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #90

Simple artislife Jul 2015 #93

There are some that should and may well do so. 99Forever Jul 2015 #96

K&R This is one hell of a thread Number23 Jul 2015 #101

I am starting to figure out where all this agita is coming from. MADem Jul 2015 #165

Oh, c'mon! You expect me to believe that you are JUST now figuring this out???!! Number23 Jul 2015 #213

I think many are waiting for something to happen... cascadiance Jul 2015 #106

115 Clinton endorsements is "waiting for something to happen"? brooklynite Jul 2015 #120

She's the "business as usual" candidate... cascadiance Jul 2015 #144

I see -- Elizabeth Warren encouraged the "business as usual" candidate to run... brooklynite Jul 2015 #190

I don't think that Warren encouraged her to run as a "business as usual" candidate... cascadiance Jul 2015 #204

"Hillary is terrific" -- E. Warren brooklynite Jul 2015 #208

Of course the party establishment opposes Bernie. But that's all the more totodeinhere Jul 2015 #108

And this might be the last change for the people to assert themselves. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #130

Yes, that's right. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #133

She may have a majority of low information Democrats now, but as more get to know totodeinhere Jul 2015 #142

Well, looks like you've got it all figured out ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #143

Well zappaman Jul 2015 #147

Hey, I'm just a low-'fo Democrat ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #149

I don't presume to have it all figured out by any means. These are just my opinions totodeinhere Jul 2015 #150

What you DO "do" ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #151

You must have misread my comment. totodeinhere Jul 2015 #179

I stand corrected ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #222

No need to apologize. You are a good DU member who contributes a lot whom totodeinhere Jul 2015 #245

Well ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #246

LOL. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2015 #247

Apparently, "low information Democrat" is also a synonym for MADem Jul 2015 #168

I am not a "low information Democrat" MJkcj Jul 2015 #253

Currently more risk with ABC (Anybody But Clinton). moondust Jul 2015 #113

What scares me, though, is that STS is gonna turn this planet into a cinder if PatrickforO Jul 2015 #134

Yep. moondust Jul 2015 #136

Why are there no endorsements for Bernie Sanders? Maybe... brooklynite Jul 2015 #115

I don't have a whole lot of confidence in most of Congress any more. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #116

Clinton has big money behind her, so she has plenty to sell for those endorsements. nt valerief Jul 2015 #140

Because it would cut off the DNC hand that feeds them. n/t woodsprite Jul 2015 #146

Considering the dismal public opinion of Congress, no 'endorsements' might be a good thing. eom Purveyor Jul 2015 #152

^^THIS^^ 99Forever Jul 2015 #192

Dunno. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #155

U.S. lawmakers from Illinois for Hillary LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #156

He threatens the Congressional Gravy Train. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #157

+1000000000000000 about the gravy train azmom Jul 2015 #200

Most likely, they don't want to get on the wrong side of the perceived front-runner Ken Burch Jul 2015 #159

Hillary IS the front runner ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #162

Most Congressional Dems were for Kerry in '04, and for Mondale and Dukakis in the Eighties. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #161

big money donors don't want them to endorse Bernie... They are afraid. Kip Humphrey Jul 2015 #173

Sanders is an outsider Depaysement Jul 2015 #174

... MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #176

Maybe Bernie's "message" is not received well from his fllow Congressional members. Maybe the Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #178

That's easy, They are supporting Hillary lewebley3 Jul 2015 #202

Democrats in congress know wss2001 Jul 2015 #203

It's very easy TheFarseer Jul 2015 #205

Somebody has better thank you fund raisers maybe? Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #206

Dems endorse Dems. Independents endorse Independents. hack89 Jul 2015 #239

Concern. Noted. truebrit71 Jul 2015 #240

Good question. Why aren't his fellow Congress members rushing to support him? McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #248

Because they are all fascists pigs and need to be removed from office ronnykmarshall Jul 2015 #249

I think there is fear of crossing Clinton TSIAS Jul 2015 #252