2016 Postmortem

udbcrzy2

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114. Me too

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:55 AM

Jul 2015

I also feel that way. I'm a Democrat, but I no longer feel like our elected officials are even Democrats. I really hate the thought of having to vote for another DINO again. I really cannot tell the difference between the DINOs and the PUKES.

And she hiding from the press (except for her latest interview on TV), that's what they did with Palin, she wasn't allowed to talk to the press, but for different reasons.

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Patriot Act. Iraq War. Keystone XL. Wall Street. [View all] WilliamPitt Jul 2015 OP

I hear you loud and clear. SamKnause Jul 2015 #1

It's a new world. Not a better one either. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #26

I know the feeling newfie11 Jul 2015 #2

Must have missed that thread quickesst Jul 2015 #3

here n2doc Jul 2015 #5

ok quickesst Jul 2015 #10

Thanks... And... HOLY SHIT !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #21

Too many posts to go thru, can you link to a post where someone here defended that fucking randys1 Jul 2015 #51

Some posters are defending Hillary's vote to authorize Bush to go to war. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #57

Huge difference. I dont know to what extent Hillary approved of that war or not, but if anybody randys1 Jul 2015 #59

You raise an interesting concept artislife Jul 2015 #106

Thanks. 840high Jul 2015 #85

WOW. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jul 2015 #112

What... quickesst Jul 2015 #119

Not you. In the thread. Sorry for confusion. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #142

Ok... quickesst Jul 2015 #147

I am amazed at the blind spot Clinton supporters have for those four issues, at some.... marble falls Jul 2015 #4

Not to mention her vote to drop cluster bombs on civilians. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #125

K&R n/t RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #6

I know what you mean. That was eye opening as all Autumn Jul 2015 #7

and my pointed response marym625 Jul 2015 #135

red'd without comment. n/t Triana Jul 2015 #8

Some of the replies in that thread blew my mind... truebrit71 Jul 2015 #9

You left out DOMA. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2015 #11

I had to snicker at hypocrisy this morning when I read cries of manufactured outrage djean111 Jul 2015 #12

+1 840high Jul 2015 #86

She's also paying her interns marym625 Jul 2015 #138

Yet, in November 2016 philosslayer Jul 2015 #13

Yes and they know that. zeemike Jul 2015 #17

And your point is what? blackspade Jul 2015 #25

My point is... philosslayer Jul 2015 #127

That's, like, your opinion man. blackspade Jul 2015 #128

rather assumptive of you marym625 Jul 2015 #137

Nope. Unless the situation changes significantly, Clinton can't win my state. jeff47 Jul 2015 #32

Really? Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #35

Nope. Unless the situation changes significantly, Clinton can't lose my state. morningfog Jul 2015 #45

Wrong. <nt> AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #50

That's what someone said in 2007 Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #54

You make a very good point. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #58

if she is the nominee heaven05 Jul 2015 #72

I will not vote for her. 840high Jul 2015 #87

And your point is what? Hissyspit Jul 2015 #113

Yes! This! peace13 Jul 2015 #14

You have got to be shitting me! marym625 Jul 2015 #15

I agree!!!!! 100% heaven05 Jul 2015 #73

seriously marym625 Jul 2015 #95

K & R Thespian2 Jul 2015 #16

It is the "Hillary because... woman" cognitive dissidence syndrome Kip Humphrey Jul 2015 #18

I will vote for Clinton if she is nominated. ananda Jul 2015 #19

we'll have to find this girl and finish the job, then MisterP Jul 2015 #47

yeah heaven05 Jul 2015 #75

Feeling it right there with you....nt artislife Jul 2015 #107

So many tears, so many cries, so much blood shadowmayor Jul 2015 #88

How do you feel about Bernie? druidity33 Jul 2015 #100

No excuses shadowmayor Jul 2015 #131

He voted--repeatedly--to FUND war. MADem Jul 2015 #150

"chicken-hawks advocating more soldiers, more bombs, more war should be punched repeatedly in the m" BeanMusical Jul 2015 #109

+10000 heaven05 Jul 2015 #130

... BeanMusical Jul 2015 #20

you forgot H-1b visa and outsourcing HFRN Jul 2015 #22

The Democratic Party is just a shell of its old self. democrank Jul 2015 #23

neoliberal, DLC, third way, triangulation HFRN Jul 2015 #28

I totally agree. jalan48 Jul 2015 #29

Me too udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #114

and the harder it empties out the more people will complain it's "appealing to its extremists like MisterP Jul 2015 #48

A party controlled by very wealthy ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #71

Absolutely right. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #82

+100% HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #126

+1000 marym625 Jul 2015 #136

A direct result of rational issue debate being pushed aside for superficial stuff. 99Forever Jul 2015 #24

'There's a thread here with people defending not only her vote in favor of the war, but the war itse HFRN Jul 2015 #27

but it's HER TURN! nt antigop Jul 2015 #30

Haven't seen much defense of the war, but Hillary supporters defend her vote Martin Eden Jul 2015 #31

me too heaven05 Jul 2015 #76

Maybe Hillary Clinton should just change her party affilliation. canoeist52 Jul 2015 #33

And using the most assinine excuse Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #34

Especially given the history of the 2000 stolen election. Trust the Republicans? jalan48 Jul 2015 #37

DU has a conservadem problem Trajan Jul 2015 #36

man is that EVER true. says it for me. nt navarth Jul 2015 #102

Dear Will - BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #38

One-word reply to supporting Kerry. WilliamPitt Jul 2015 #39

Will - I wasn't talking about the BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #43

"can we just deal with the present? Instead of trying to rehash what can't be changed" WilliamPitt Jul 2015 #46

Intersting Andy823 Jul 2015 #84

Well said. And not only that but he was the one who brought up the Iraq war. But when someone says Number23 Jul 2015 #92

his support for Kerry was also different than his so called support for sanders or whoever JI7 Jul 2015 #108

Yep Andy823 Jul 2015 #121

Since you deliberately keep trying to miss my BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #133

you noticed that, too, huh? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #140

Sounds a lot like LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #61

Bush wasn't a Republican. WilliamPitt Jul 2015 #64

Sure he was LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #67

today I learned Bush wasn't a Republican. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #141

it's time to let the IWR vote go? Skittles Jul 2015 #145

I often don't where I am when I see defenses of stuff like that here. She was so wrong on all sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #40

Torture Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #41

I was actually going to add that to this thread. I remember that question well and her answer sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #42

Yes, I'll vote for her if she's the candidate. But I won't support her candidacy. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #60

I don't expect to have to make such a decision, I know Bernie Sanders is the right choice sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #70

i did not remember that questionseverything Jul 2015 #65

I don't get it either d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #49

ditto, sister Skittles Jul 2015 #146

I hear that. blackspade Jul 2015 #44

Glad I haven't seen that thread. How utterly surreal. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #52

No Child Left Behind Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #53

I think there are three types of Hillary supporters: Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #55

4. Some Democrats are neoliberals. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #139

Not the war iself HassleCat Jul 2015 #56

It is a simple game to cast a meaninglesss anti-IWR vote, if you vote to fund the war, over, MADem Jul 2015 #62

"meaningless IWR vote" WilliamPitt Jul 2015 #63

No, it's not showing. When you vote against something, and then vote over and over again to FUND MADem Jul 2015 #66

Look on the bright side LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #68

Yes, aren't I the "lucky one!" MADem Jul 2015 #69

No, the bright side is the poster didn't have to be one to go fight in Iraq. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #115

Where and when did you serve, again? MADem Jul 2015 #154

"You people are legitimately frightening." BeanMusical Jul 2015 #110

Bush bet, some blinked Babel_17 Jul 2015 #74

I respectfully disagree. MADem Jul 2015 #79

I respect your opinion but maintain it was a historic vote Babel_17 Jul 2015 #81

History didn't notice that he voted--repeatedly-- to fund the very conflict that he opposed.... MADem Jul 2015 #83

He didn't vote to give bush anything. Once our troops were committed he wanted them fed Snotcicles Jul 2015 #89

How about defund the war okasha Jul 2015 #91

One independent vote from Vermont is going to bring the mighty war machine to it's knees. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #93

But it would have stood as an act of conscience. okasha Jul 2015 #98

Bush knew he would win that game of chicken Babel_17 Jul 2015 #123

Oh please. You're saying that all those bombs, bullets, up-armored HUMVEES, MADem Jul 2015 #149

Took ya two days to put that together, maybe you should take a break, and Snotcicles Jul 2015 #151

What are you talking about, two days? Breath? MADem Jul 2015 #153

What matters is he voted against the war. Thats The Biggie. The Mac Daddy. The Big One. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #156

He voted against a war when his vote didn't matter--it wasn't even close. MADem Jul 2015 #157

Well I'm sticking with Bernie, so anything you reply with after this for the benefit of others. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #158

I never asked you to change your loyalities. I don't expect you to, either. MADem Jul 2015 #159

Bullshit. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #116

Bushshit Babel_17 Jul 2015 #124

Hillary is not the right choice heaven05 Jul 2015 #77

You are welcome to your opinion. nt MADem Jul 2015 #80

+1. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #152

Those suckers at the VFW... Agony Jul 2015 #134

He voted against the IWR. Then he repeatedly voted to FUND the IWR. MADem Jul 2015 #148

Will, you are in Primary land, tavalon Jul 2015 #78

Rec'd ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #90

It would be the same then if I voted for Hillary or Bernie, then I choose to Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #94

"Not that it I proper to call either a whore." BeanMusical Jul 2015 #111

With you and WISH people would look at our CANDIDATES! elleng Jul 2015 #96

Will, this is totally unfair of you. MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #97

+1000. Damn you, Will Pitt, for being so unfair! kath Jul 2015 #103

Glad I missed that thread! nt Duval Jul 2015 #99

You, William, are in the Capitalist Oligarchy of America. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #101

Strike four! moondust Jul 2015 #104

None of it would have happened if Jeb! hadn't cheated to make his brother win the 2000 election. mahina Jul 2015 #105

^ Electric Monk Jul 2015 #117

Who said on the eve of the 2004 election that Kerry's win was in the bag? McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #118

Who said "Kerry's win was in the bag.."? I was sweating it out all night and woke up to Cha Jul 2015 #120

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." raouldukelives Jul 2015 #122

Got about half way through this thread MuseRider Jul 2015 #129

Of everything, believe it or not, Libya disturbs me the most about her. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #132

That episode and her comment pulled the curtain down on her as far as I was concerned. Autumn Jul 2015 #155

I really thought the Tiger Beat mentality was exclusively for Obama Skittles Jul 2015 #144

Many Democrats don't really care about civil rights, war, the environment or financial piracy. Maedhros Jul 2015 #160