2016 Postmortem

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213. Oh, c'mon! You expect me to believe that you are JUST now figuring this out???!!

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:49 PM

Jul 2015

You are one of the most clued in posters here. Even I realized alot of folks here didn't have a clue about politics years ago.

I've never seen anyone interested in politics disdain a superdelegate endorsement....except here!!

It's yet another example of how divorced from the Democratic party and reality so many are here. I have read polls that show Clinton beating Sanders by like 40-50% and folks will actually come into these threads with numbers like that and say "Clinton must be really getting scared now."

I would be happy with either of these guys, but the idea that a candidate who is WHOOPING another one by 40+ percentage points is somehow "scared" of the one that she's whooping is a serious bit of DU alternate reality. Believe in your candidate, that's fine. But when people look at polls that show Clinton with 60%, Sanders with 18% and Biden -- who's NOT EVEN DECLARED YET -- with 20% and walk away from that proclaiming that the Clintons must be "worried" these are people that simply cannot be taken seriously.

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How come Bernie Sanders has zero Congressional endorsements? [View all] Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 OP

Chris Christie had a few New Jersey democratic politicians endorse him over the still_one Jul 2015 #1

Endorsements mean a LOT when it's a superdelegate endorsing you. MADem Jul 2015 #53

Are they super delegates? I thought super delegates are chosen during the primaries? still_one Jul 2015 #75

Could it be the rest are fishing out of the same money bucket for their own interests? TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #78

+1. And because he tells the truth also which is not well liked or profitable. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #148

The Real Deal and Not to be Underestimated appalachiablue Jul 2015 #153

Bernie Sanders is the Real Deal madokie Jul 2015 #158

+5 Sanders is the Real Deal and he will be president. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #180

BINGO!!!! without meaning to he shows up their inequities . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #227

From the link: MADem Jul 2015 #79

I should have read it, thanks still_one Jul 2015 #88

yes they are karynnj Jul 2015 #175

yes they are super delegates dsc Jul 2015 #234

There's an ever so slight difference when it's a Primary endorsement... brooklynite Jul 2015 #114

I did not say they were irrelevant. They may influence some people's decision, but I don't still_one Jul 2015 #154

As the Duke would have said...... Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #2

he isn't running to win JI7 Jul 2015 #3

this has been posited and debunked restorefreedom Jul 2015 #70

Thank you. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #74

it is part of the effort to discredit him restorefreedom Jul 2015 #77

Bernie won't get in the sandbox wifh the Koch Brothers! TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #80

Thanks, that's absolutely correct. Sanders is amazing the more I follow him.. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #181

Sanders is counting on a populist wave to back his play. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #118

Obviously not, since he has not picked up a single super-delegate, and assuming it was a close race, MADem Jul 2015 #166

Agree. He is running to have a public voice, not to win. But don't tell the RNC. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #250

Why don't you tell us, Cali_Democrat Scootaloo Jul 2015 #4

+1,000,000 .... Trajan Jul 2015 #8

I really don't know. Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #9

They are afraid to stick their necks out virtualobserver Jul 2015 #16

^^ THIS ^^ Qutzupalotl Jul 2015 #50

Exactly! dflprincess Jul 2015 #233

I'm curious, what exactly hinges on Congressional endorsements? NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #92

Unnnnh.... SUPERDELEGATES? Hello? MADem Jul 2015 #167

Challenging the system.... daleanime Jul 2015 #5

'Professional' Dems aren't going to support him publicly, elleng Jul 2015 #6

It seems that regular citizens are endorsing him on a regular basis Trajan Jul 2015 #7

Well, now that you mention it, you can consider this MY official endorsement of Bernard Sanders PatrickforO Jul 2015 #127

I'd like to add my name to the list. This is my official endorsement of Bernie Sanders for POTUS. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #137

747 of 5,083 delegates in the Democratic Primary are Super Delegates, each endorsement Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #10

Yes, and if the popular vote is FOR Bernie, they would oppose him at their peril peacebird Jul 2015 #251

We won't know that for some time yet. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #254

How come Congress has a 16% approval rating? leveymg Jul 2015 #11

the public does not have any faith in Congress Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #45

It would be like being endorsed by a convention of used car salesmen. leveymg Jul 2015 #48

I don't care kenfrequed Jul 2015 #12

They DO vote at the Democratic National Convention, though. MADem Jul 2015 #169

Simple. Fear of CLinton revenge. Peregrine Took Jul 2015 #13

how come it didn't work with Obama ? if Clintons have all this power JI7 Jul 2015 #15

How many congressional endorsements did Obama have in July 2007? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #19

not for the 2008 elections JI7 Jul 2015 #27

not conspiracy, it is just politics n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #30

by next year Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #95

I've already said he can't deliver the stuff he is proposing. He needs congressfolks behind him even stevenleser Jul 2015 #14

No Democrat will get better treatement than President Obama from Republicans. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #17

I agree. So whats the point of fighting to try and overcome Hillary with Sanders only to stevenleser Jul 2015 #20

We need a Democrat in the Whitehouse who will stop Republicans from dismanteling everything. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #29

We are in 100% agreement. That is what this election is about. It's not about which Democrat is stevenleser Jul 2015 #33

But we will feel better "winning by losing" ... You know, that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #49

So you believe Sanders will lose to... Who? Trump? Walker? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #69

HRC or O'malley. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #82

Then what on earth does this mean: Scootaloo Jul 2015 #83

"We" is those that would risk a General Election lose because the weaker ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #85

Oh, so now it's the general election, which brings us to my initial question Scootaloo Jul 2015 #86

In every poll with Sanders, they're all beating him. With the exception of California stevenleser Jul 2015 #105

It's called coveting the struggle LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #104

I believe that argument means your core values are negotiable Fairgo Jul 2015 #91

+1 n/t A Little Weird Jul 2015 #112

Yes, because smoothing the path for a GOP victory is just so "pure" and high minded. MADem Jul 2015 #171

I Respect the intention Fairgo Jul 2015 #183

Values are useless if the enemy is calling all the shots. MADem Jul 2015 #186

I've said this - this ain't "The Voice" or "Survivor" or any of the reality crap. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #235

Yes...YES....YES!!!! Sheepshank Jul 2015 #184

Polling already shows that Sanders will lose to Walker... brooklynite Jul 2015 #117

well we might as well skip the convention then. June 2015 has spoken and we must obey Scootaloo Jul 2015 #122

..a meme that only the Sanders people have pushed... brooklynite Jul 2015 #125

Well, which way do you want it? Are the current polls the final word or not? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #135

Protecting existing programs is not losing. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #81

Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #84

Yeah, that's it Depaysement Jul 2015 #177

I'll tell you what the point is Scootaloo Jul 2015 #67

^ This is astute! immoderate Jul 2015 #103

You're disregarding several important points and engaging in wishful thinking stevenleser Jul 2015 #109

Three points davidpdx Jul 2015 #172

AND, to piggy-back on what you're saying PatrickforO Jul 2015 #124

Because Bernie hits the reset button on the whole corrupt conversation. It's not necessarily about Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #138

Nobody can except for Republican ideas. mmonk Jul 2015 #18

And that's my point. We will have a GOP House until Jan 2023 at the earliest and probably until stevenleser Jul 2015 #24

Then by logic it doesn't matter if Sanders is chosen over Clinton. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #31

Correct. But why the fight to try? What is that effort going to get you? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #34

It demonstrates that "liberals can't win" is a lie. jeff47 Jul 2015 #56

Do the rest of Sanders supporters know thats the only thing they are fighting for? I doubt it. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #58

It isn't the only thing Sanders supporters are fighting for. It's addressing your specific question jeff47 Jul 2015 #73

I'm thinking the effort will get me a president Ron Green Jul 2015 #57

See my #58 nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #61

Or not carry on Republican friendly policies like avoiding real mmonk Jul 2015 #37

your Jan 2023 prediction is only true if Democrats continue to pump out the same stale rhetoric..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #38

Won't matter. Republican congresscritters get cred from their base by opposing Dem Presidents stevenleser Jul 2015 #41

that will change virtualobserver Jul 2015 #42

See my #43 below. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #44

You judge Sanders by what Republicans will and will not support? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #21

Nope, that is not my point. See my #24 above. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #25

Then we begin our work on primarying those who are beholden to DLC Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #23

That won't take back the House from the GOP. Only redistricting will. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #26

You'll let us know when that primarying starts, right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #119

I'm with you, but who can we get to 'primary' that empty-suit Bennet? PatrickforO Jul 2015 #128

Obama didn't use the bully pulpit, Bernie will. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #35

Wont matter. GOP Reps get cred from their base by opposing a Democratic President. It helps them stevenleser Jul 2015 #36

only in the boring, scripted DNC universe virtualobserver Jul 2015 #40

And what makes you think that bit of wishful thinking will pan out? stevenleser Jul 2015 #43

There are some that are.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #47

In other words, its wishful thinking that has no basis in his past ability to execute it. stevenleser Jul 2015 #54

the available evidence supports me virtualobserver Jul 2015 #68

"one person says something, the GOP base will suddenly change their minds" aspirant Jul 2015 #87

Give it up already...do you follow SL around on purpose? This is creepy. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #94

Yep. All of that. Nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #97

hypocrisy is very creepy aspirant Jul 2015 #107

Sheepshank is right. Your behavior is creepy and deserves a spot on my ignore list. stevenleser Jul 2015 #110

Fox propaganda is very,very creepy aspirant Jul 2015 #111

No, I respond to you too aspirant Jul 2015 #102

You repeatedly trying to claim something nepharious about his appearance on fox Sheepshank Jul 2015 #139

Fox propaganda is very creepy and very odd too. aspirant Jul 2015 #141

Just making it obvious you have some really weird agenda. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #185

Do you have unresolved parenting issues? aspirant Jul 2015 #187

Still avoiding...and it's pretty freaking obvious Sheepshank Jul 2015 #188

I'm responding, not avoiding aspirant Jul 2015 #189

Your response is not what was asked. You continue the same tack. Nt Sheepshank Jul 2015 #191

Free speech is limitless aspirant Jul 2015 #193

Dip dodge dive...more of the same Sheepshank Jul 2015 #194

Dodging your inner failings aspirant Jul 2015 #196

Losing enterprise. Your tack is exposed Sheepshank Jul 2015 #197

Is "poor poopsie" a personal attack too aspirant Jul 2015 #198

It's a term of endearment. So many posts trends are missed...I didn't miss your trend. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #199

"term of endearment" not my definition aspirant Jul 2015 #201

No, your constant Rovian attacks on a long time du'er is not leftist. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #207

"Rovian attacks" aspirant Jul 2015 #209

Yet what you were doing were snide innuendos Sheepshank Jul 2015 #210

How about HRC's innuendos about Obama, aspirant Jul 2015 #211

This is about you, not HRC or Obama Sheepshank Jul 2015 #212

I "claim" Bernie as my candidate aspirant Jul 2015 #214

Figures Bernie is your guy...assuming his noble stand as touted by his supporters Sheepshank Jul 2015 #215

"noble stand" how nice of you to recognize. aspirant Jul 2015 #216

Well just another thing you got wrong Sheepshank Jul 2015 #217

"assume" aspirant Jul 2015 #218

Yup got banned......for reposting jury results Sheepshank Jul 2015 #219

The disagreeing world is wrong, you know best aspirant Jul 2015 #220

Dip dodge & attempt to belittle......you're not that good at it Sheepshank Jul 2015 #221

I don't have to "attempt", you "belittle" yourself aspirant Jul 2015 #223

Ok....keep avoiding the true topic at hand. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #224

So you are confirming aspirant Jul 2015 #225

Lol Sheepshank Jul 2015 #226

Confirmation with laughter is good therapy aspirant Jul 2015 #228

Seriously, 5 times you personally insult my mental health? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #229

Do you need help? Admitting it is the beginning aspirant Jul 2015 #230

More Rovian tactics. He must be so proud of you! Sheepshank Jul 2015 #231

Rove is interested in your mental health? aspirant Jul 2015 #232

What a very clever come back Sheepshank Jul 2015 #236

Probabilities are for the mathematicians aspirant Jul 2015 #237

In other words, he'll get the same treatment the other Dems would get n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #65

I hear what you're saying, but what if you and I and hundreds of thousands of other PatrickforO Jul 2015 #121

Wouldn't help. The repugs in the House are from safe gerrymandered districts. We can't touch them. stevenleser Jul 2015 #123

Well, there you have it! Bernie is calling for a political revolution, but there's no 'they' PatrickforO Jul 2015 #126

The districts won't be redrawn until after the 2020 census stevenleser Jul 2015 #129

Well, then, let's get Bernie in there and march. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #131

I mean, Steven, wouldn't you rather go out slugging rather than just acquiesce to oligarchy and a PatrickforO Jul 2015 #132

That's where you're wrong. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #182

We already know HRC can't get GOP votes for anything. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #160

How come Leahy and Welch are not emdorsing him? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #22

Maybe they've all been purchased already. polichick Jul 2015 #28

They dont dare, not unless and until Bernie gets the nomination, this is basic party randys1 Jul 2015 #32

I do not think that this means Bernie has no allies. Not at all. djean111 Jul 2015 #39

Because Bernie is an outsider who hasn't been in Congress very long. zappaman Jul 2015 #46

24 years I thought? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #55

I don't think so. zappaman Jul 2015 #59

LOL, I get it now, you were being sarcastic. And I agree. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #63

They aren't endorsing him okasha Jul 2015 #98

Two!?! zappaman Jul 2015 #99

Formindable! okasha Jul 2015 #100

I first worked on the Hill in '93 and he was already there Recursion Jul 2015 #170

I don't think it's probably that difficult to figure out frazzled Jul 2015 #51

maybe same reason kucinich didn't have any JI7 Jul 2015 #52

None of the Mn Reps are endorsing her as yet, but geardaddy Jul 2015 #60

Keith Ellison is not going to endorse Bernie Sanders underthematrix Jul 2015 #145

Ah, the "Just sayin'" approach matt819 Jul 2015 #62

The numbers of 115-0 are not very good. Who should know Bernie and worked side by side with Bernie Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #64

Hmmm, sounds like a whole lot of congress critters aren't endorsing Hillary. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #66

Obama first endorsement was... Stellar Jul 2015 #71

"if you have to ask, you can't afford it." restorefreedom Jul 2015 #72

I would think it's a little early for endorsements. Vinca Jul 2015 #76

No--endorsements are needed as quickly as one can get them. MADem Jul 2015 #89

But they are not the votes cast in the primary. Vinca Jul 2015 #163

Are you unclear as to how the system works? I am getting that impression from your remarks. MADem Jul 2015 #164

I understand how the system works. Vinca Jul 2015 #195

That won't happen--I can promise you that-- but in a situation where MADem Jul 2015 #238

But it is not unheard of for superdelegates to switch. Vinca Jul 2015 #241

Your example is of two candidates who were both Democrats, vying for superdelegates. MADem Jul 2015 #242

If Clinton implodes, Biden will be drafted. Vinca Jul 2015 #243

Maybe not. Biden is admired as a VP--he doesn't get much love as a potential candidate. MADem Jul 2015 #244

Orders from on high. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #90

Simple artislife Jul 2015 #93

There are some that should and may well do so. 99Forever Jul 2015 #96

K&R This is one hell of a thread Number23 Jul 2015 #101

I am starting to figure out where all this agita is coming from. MADem Jul 2015 #165

Oh, c'mon! You expect me to believe that you are JUST now figuring this out???!! Number23 Jul 2015 #213

I think many are waiting for something to happen... cascadiance Jul 2015 #106

115 Clinton endorsements is "waiting for something to happen"? brooklynite Jul 2015 #120

She's the "business as usual" candidate... cascadiance Jul 2015 #144

I see -- Elizabeth Warren encouraged the "business as usual" candidate to run... brooklynite Jul 2015 #190

I don't think that Warren encouraged her to run as a "business as usual" candidate... cascadiance Jul 2015 #204

"Hillary is terrific" -- E. Warren brooklynite Jul 2015 #208

Of course the party establishment opposes Bernie. But that's all the more totodeinhere Jul 2015 #108

And this might be the last change for the people to assert themselves. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #130

Yes, that's right. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #133

She may have a majority of low information Democrats now, but as more get to know totodeinhere Jul 2015 #142

Well, looks like you've got it all figured out ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #143

Well zappaman Jul 2015 #147

Hey, I'm just a low-'fo Democrat ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #149

I don't presume to have it all figured out by any means. These are just my opinions totodeinhere Jul 2015 #150

What you DO "do" ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #151

You must have misread my comment. totodeinhere Jul 2015 #179

I stand corrected ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #222

No need to apologize. You are a good DU member who contributes a lot whom totodeinhere Jul 2015 #245

Well ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #246

LOL. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2015 #247

Apparently, "low information Democrat" is also a synonym for MADem Jul 2015 #168

I am not a "low information Democrat" MJkcj Jul 2015 #253

Currently more risk with ABC (Anybody But Clinton). moondust Jul 2015 #113

What scares me, though, is that STS is gonna turn this planet into a cinder if PatrickforO Jul 2015 #134

Yep. moondust Jul 2015 #136

Why are there no endorsements for Bernie Sanders? Maybe... brooklynite Jul 2015 #115

I don't have a whole lot of confidence in most of Congress any more. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #116

Clinton has big money behind her, so she has plenty to sell for those endorsements. nt valerief Jul 2015 #140

Because it would cut off the DNC hand that feeds them. n/t woodsprite Jul 2015 #146

Considering the dismal public opinion of Congress, no 'endorsements' might be a good thing. eom Purveyor Jul 2015 #152

^^THIS^^ 99Forever Jul 2015 #192

Dunno. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #155

U.S. lawmakers from Illinois for Hillary LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #156

He threatens the Congressional Gravy Train. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #157

+1000000000000000 about the gravy train azmom Jul 2015 #200

Most likely, they don't want to get on the wrong side of the perceived front-runner Ken Burch Jul 2015 #159

Hillary IS the front runner ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #162

Most Congressional Dems were for Kerry in '04, and for Mondale and Dukakis in the Eighties. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #161

big money donors don't want them to endorse Bernie... They are afraid. Kip Humphrey Jul 2015 #173

Sanders is an outsider Depaysement Jul 2015 #174

... MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #176

Maybe Bernie's "message" is not received well from his fllow Congressional members. Maybe the Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #178

That's easy, They are supporting Hillary lewebley3 Jul 2015 #202

Democrats in congress know wss2001 Jul 2015 #203

It's very easy TheFarseer Jul 2015 #205

Somebody has better thank you fund raisers maybe? Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #206

Dems endorse Dems. Independents endorse Independents. hack89 Jul 2015 #239

Concern. Noted. truebrit71 Jul 2015 #240

Good question. Why aren't his fellow Congress members rushing to support him? McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #248

Because they are all fascists pigs and need to be removed from office ronnykmarshall Jul 2015 #249

I think there is fear of crossing Clinton TSIAS Jul 2015 #252