2016 Postmortem

wyldwolf

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16. Yeah, let's look at that facebook thread of 'angry teachers.'

Reply to Man of Distinction (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:02 PM

Jul 2015

LOL! Teachers Union, is a freaking joke

none of the democrats are any good

I'm sad there is no one else to endorse.

How can you endorse someone when you don't even know who the other candidates are?

Can't believe you are those who are supposed to be teaching our kids but instead you are indoctrinating our children with your communist propaganda.

bernie sanders he is as bad as hillary, you people are crazy

etc.

Tons of angry right wing teachers in that thread based on the right wing memes in there, too.

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AFT executive council shoots themselves in the foot... endorses Clinton w/o asking the membership [View all] Man of Distinction Jul 2015 OP

Not a smart move on the part of the Leadership. Now they are facing a revolt and a whole lot of sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #1

Teachers don't take kindly to not being consulted. I didn't know about this, but will be watching libdem4life Jul 2015 #7

True, I have always had extremely good relationships with the parents of my students, and if a sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #13

Glad to know you're a teacher...enjoy your posts. What grade or level? I'm retired from libdem4life Jul 2015 #18

Ist through 3rd grade. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #135

Looks like you should support the candidate who wants to abolish NCLB... Agschmid Jul 2015 #142

local pres. vp secretary and state sec here for 20 years roguevalley Jul 2015 #100

Leadership never asks members, my union endorses who they think is best. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #125

What. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #2

Wow. THAT'S interesting. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #14

Or the comments on Ravitch's blog BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #141

I've been a good Democrat all my adult life. But my school district in California was the first one libdem4life Jul 2015 #3

Why do you say they didn't poll the membership? zappaman Jul 2015 #4

Members saying on FB no vote was taken. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #9

Interesting. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #12

One FB commenter... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #19

Over 500 FB users liked the endorsement. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #23

FB likes are easily bought. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #25

and anyone can post on that thread - teacher or not. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #26

True. And it appeared many commenters weren't teachers. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #34

Like wise word probably went out... wyldwolf Jul 2015 #159

Lots of people saying that they prefer Bernie in that thread. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #83

Here's one that offers 10,000 likes for $300 nationalize the fed Jul 2015 #76

The only "like" that matters is in the voting booth. Agschmid Jul 2015 #108

so are facebook comments wyldwolf Jul 2015 #162

Have you ever noticed that FB doesn't have a dislike option? Exilednight Jul 2015 #161

Survey was done by Hart Research.... riversedge Jul 2015 #186

If they did, OK. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #10

I am a teacher and know many, many other teachers. 2008 teachers were promised many things. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #15

We all were promised, SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #69

I'm an AFT member NJCher Jul 2015 #44

Yeah "the AFT said that they polled their members". Wow, now that's proof. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #115

So they're lying? zappaman Jul 2015 #134

Nah they never do, but if they don't agree it can't be true. Agschmid Jul 2015 #143

Sad but true. zappaman Jul 2015 #147

So you say that they did poll their members? rhett o rick Jul 2015 #166

No, they are saying that. zappaman Jul 2015 #173

Finally Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #192

AFT president is a board member of Hillary's Super PAC HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #5

What are Hillary's education policies? I keep asking but no one seems to know, or are ignoring sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #17

She supports good things and opposes bad ones. n/t QC Jul 2015 #20

No one knows. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #22

"4 legs good, 2 legs better." Chan790 Jul 2015 #29

+1 BeanMusical Jul 2015 #96

Can I use part of your post as a sig line? Please? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #201

Yes. n/t Chan790 Nov 2015 #202

Thank you! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #203

She supports charter school and testing veteran teachers. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2015 #31

she doesn't support charters dsc Jul 2015 #92

Google-fu says you are wrong. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Jul 2015 #127

She most definitely does. madfloridian Jul 2015 #130

Very much for Common Core, loves charters, doesn't like vouchers. madfloridian Jul 2015 #32

So basically for the privatization of the Public Schools. Because you really can't be for sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #36

Her supporters know, they just don't bother replying because they know you won't care. Agschmid Jul 2015 #47

She's for NCLB. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #74

Except that she is not... Agschmid Jul 2015 #94

They substituted Race to the Top, but NCLB still in effect I understand. madfloridian Jul 2015 #131

Actions speak louder than words. Those might be her words, but her action was her vote. Exilednight Jul 2015 #163

Support for charters SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #66

Try Google, it works. Agschmid Jul 2015 #46

What she "stands" for and her record are 2 different things. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #85

I can't even believe I have to post this... Agschmid Jul 2015 #89

Mahalo for Hillary's record on Education, Agschimd.. and, this little tidbit..! Cha Jul 2015 #151

linking pay to performance is bullshit. she supports that and she can take a hike roguevalley Jul 2015 #110

the pollster ATF employed is Bernie Sanders' pollster wyldwolf Jul 2015 #180

Your link doesn't state they conducted the poll. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #181

this one does wyldwolf Jul 2015 #182

So some people on the Internets are 'angry.' 'Teachers,' I'm told. onehandle Jul 2015 #6

I'm a teacher, and I endorse Bernie Sanders, as do most of my fellow teachers, who are human beings sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #21

Huge +1! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #60

You are a teacher - did you get to vote on this? jwirr Jul 2015 #41

:crickets: BeanMusical Jul 2015 #75

I'm pro union, but SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #8

They did two polls. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #55

I'd be interested in details. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #59

Maybe not. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #81

Anecdotal at best. Agschmid Jul 2015 #106

Leadership won't produce the poll numbers... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #109

It's time these unions are cleansed of the "Capitalists" aspirant Jul 2015 #116

Yup because "cleansings" are typically wicked progressive, and have worked out so well in the past. Agschmid Jul 2015 #119

The revolution is now, not in the past aspirant Jul 2015 #124

Okay well then "cleanse" away. Agschmid Jul 2015 #126

Thank you for supporting the cause. aspirant Jul 2015 #128

Are you a member of the AFT? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #11

No they are just barely a member of DU. Agschmid Jul 2015 #48

That is why I was wondering why they dud not know polling had occurred two times. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #54

Read the Twitter replies. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #79

I was a union officer, I heard this statement about members didn't know anything, I can tell you Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #164

Hey you~ sheshe2 Jul 2015 #97

Thanks, I've been getting alerted on quite a bit lately must have ticked someone off. Agschmid Jul 2015 #98

There is a lot of that going around lately. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #111

Yeah, let's look at that facebook thread of 'angry teachers.' wyldwolf Jul 2015 #16

I'm no longer active, but in my years of experience teachers tend towards liberal, can and libdem4life Jul 2015 #24

I am a progressive Democrat and a teacher. I know what Bernie Sanders policies on Education sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #27

there is zero evidence that thread is full of 'angry teachers.' Anyone can post on it. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #28

What? I asked you where Hillary stands on Education and you respond with a reference to some sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #39

Nice non-answer. L0oniX Jul 2015 #42

Why don't you answer the question? Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #43

Beacuse... Google. Agschmid Jul 2015 #50

Google found me this... Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #129

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #136

Actually the way that both parties have screwed career teachers... madfloridian Jul 2015 #35

"How can you endorse someone when you don't even know who the other candidates are?" cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #40

"communist propaganda"? Seriously? Ken Burch Jul 2015 #49

That was a comment by a 'teacher' on the facebook thread wyldwolf Jul 2015 #160

Which was not clear from your post. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #189

Did they get a chance to vote on it? If so, what was the result? bravenak Jul 2015 #30

It doesn't seem like there was a vote. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #37

That's really foul. bravenak Jul 2015 #38

Then their members aren't paying attention, considering the meeting happened June 6th *ish* Agschmid Jul 2015 #51

Last week of school? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #56

Please... Agschmid Jul 2015 #57

GOOD! elleng Jul 2015 #33

67% of AFT Democratic primary voters polled selected Hillary Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #45

Now how are we sure that Monsanto didn't reimburse you for the "like"?!?!?! Agschmid Jul 2015 #52

What's the deal with mentioning Monsanto in many supposedly BeanMusical Jul 2015 #61

My Mosanto comment comes directly from another thread in GDP, check it out. Agschmid Jul 2015 #64

Haha! Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #63

Please provide a link with both poll results with number breakdowns by locals aspirant Jul 2015 #99

One member contacted 40 others in his local. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #62

Are union officials elected? Agschmid Jul 2015 #67

AFT president appointed to board of Hillarys Super PAC HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #87

Not for the questions I am asking, but yes it's good to know. Agschmid Jul 2015 #105

Do members vote on national issues? aspirant Jul 2015 #101

Depends on the set up. Agschmid Jul 2015 #104

With no detailed results, obviously this is a set-up aspirant Jul 2015 #113

You didn't understand what I meant. Agschmid Jul 2015 #114

But but but... OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #68

Did you read the Twitter replies? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #70

Randi always has lots of feedback to her tweets. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #78

So you call yourself a Socialist Progressive? BeanMusical Jul 2015 #102

Ouch. Agschmid Jul 2015 #107

Being a socialist is about dealing with facts. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #112

You deal with the facts that are convenient when they fit your agenda, nothing more. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #117

What agenda is that Bean? Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #118

Indeed. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #120

"The results will speak for themselves" Seems to me that's already the case. Number23 Jul 2015 #188

Aww, thank you! Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #190

Ha! Are you like that ceramics teacher on Community?? Number23 Jul 2015 #191

I am! Lolololol Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #194

i saw that and had the same reaction JI7 Jul 2015 #196

The members are only asking for poll results and how the questions were posed. madfloridian Jul 2015 #73

I replied to the OP, which says members didn't get asked. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #80

madfloridan Rocks! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #53

+1000! HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #71

Gee, what a surprise. 99Forever Jul 2015 #58

no matter who the leadership is for restorefreedom Jul 2015 #65

But they did... Agschmid Jul 2015 #77

That link shows nothing Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #82

Meh... let the conspiracies abound. Agschmid Jul 2015 #84

AFT president is a board member of Hillary's Super PAC BeanMusical Jul 2015 #86

show the poll would help Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #88

Afraid of what? Agschmid Jul 2015 #90

Afraid of being cought in the lie Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #91

Are union executives elected, are they representatives of the body of the union? Agschmid Jul 2015 #95

Apparently after 101 posts, you sure know how to lay the bait around here. Agschmid Jul 2015 #72

Just exactly what is your accusation here? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #121

That we are all fools for taking this on. Agschmid Jul 2015 #122

oh I get it. He made it thru the anti-Bernie gauntlet. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #167

Actually he is gone. Agschmid Jul 2015 #169

How did you pull that off? How does a DU member find out another member rhett o rick Jul 2015 #170

It says "previously banned" on his profile page. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #171

Yes I know what it says. I asked how did that transpire? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #172

Well Rick. zappaman Jul 2015 #174

But this one got past 100 posts. How did you get him banned? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #183

You should ask the administrators about how this site works. zappaman Jul 2015 #184

My relationship with the Admins apparently isn't as close as some here. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #185

Bummer. n/t zappaman Jul 2015 #187

This guy had me confused with a odd PM that states "Welcome Back"... Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #133

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #138

You mean, like a double super secret agent? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #144

Remember Carmen SanDiego? Agschmid Jul 2015 #145

I question why you feel the need to go after new posters BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #148

Time will tell. Agschmid Jul 2015 #149

Time told. Agschmid Jul 2015 #158

Bernie's words to the AFT in June. Didn't pander. madfloridian Jul 2015 #93

Good read. Agschmid Jul 2015 #103

Straight talk from Bernie. As always. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #146

Tragic Misstep - The Rank And File Will Revolt cantbeserious Jul 2015 #132

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #137

Lots of misogynistic comments and general Foxbottery on that AFT FB page as well. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #139

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #140

So if I state that Hillary Clinton TM99 Jul 2015 #150

No. Agschmid Jul 2015 #152

I read them. TM99 Jul 2015 #155

Do I need to post a link on the definition of misogyny? LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #153

Look. TM99 Jul 2015 #154

Listen. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #156

This poster has left the building. Agschmid Jul 2015 #157

so obvious... OKNancy Jul 2015 #165

"Previously banned poster". sufrommich Jul 2015 #168

Love the Recs for this drivel. n/t zappaman Jul 2015 #175

He was stalking the Hillary group. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #178

where did "Man of Distinction" go ? JI7 Jul 2015 #176

He hit the road, Jack. Actually he Skipped away. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #177

AFT support for Hillary Clinton brooklynite Jul 2015 #179

Unions don't hold referendums to decide endorsements frazzled Jul 2015 #193

Yes I saw my union donated to Bernie, I was not polled nor did I vote to donate the money. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #195

There's an online petition to ask AFT to withdraw its endorsement Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #197

What is that. 3000 out of 1.5 million. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #198

Why was the Man of Distinction sent into extinction?nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #199

A large union endorses a progressive..... NCTraveler Jul 2015 #200

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #204