2016 Postmortem

dreamnightwind

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180. I remember '08

Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:26 AM

Jul 2015

There was controversy where a couple of states moved their primaries earlier than the party authorized, so the party decided to invalidate their primaries. Obama didn't run in those states, in at least one of them I don't even thinkk his namee was on the ballot. Hillary still "kind of" ran in those states, and her name was on the ballots. In the end, the Clinton camp was claiming (falsely I think) to have won the popular vote, I don't have the numbers on hand but IIRC they were including the states where Obama had done what the party wanted and not campaigned, Hillary had many more votes in those states and they weren't properly contested.

Already we're seeing rumors of not allowing Bernie on the ballot in states where being a registered Democrat in your home state is a requirement (even though registration in Vermont is not party-based so it is literally impossible for Bernie to register there as a Democrat). If this happens, I can already see the scenarios where the Clinton camp will claim victory based on those states, or claim the popular vote based on totals including where Bernie is kept off the ballot.

We'll see. It should be about the people, not about the party, and the further away from that principle the party goes, the less legitimate it becomes.

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ANTHONY WEINER: I have one big question for Bernie Sanders [View all] Stellar Jul 2015 OP

I'm just glad his question wasn't, "do you want to see a picture of my....." FSogol Jul 2015 #1

or how big is your johnson? Tweet me! nt boston bean Jul 2015 #3

That's what I came in to post The Second Stone Jul 2015 #49

I'm not sure he is helping H artislife Jul 2015 #2

His wife already has a place in H's inner circle. Autumn Jul 2015 #78

as we get closer to the primary we can count on media flogging both Mrs. Clinton and her top Aid Sunlei Jul 2015 #189

One thing Bernie isn't doing Anthony.... 99Forever Jul 2015 #4

Well to be fair.... zappaman Jul 2015 #6

Do you want to see a 73 year old Aerows Jul 2015 #187

I guess this is one thread that both Clinton and Bernie supporters can get behind. nt Stellar Jul 2015 #13

The corporate hold of the two party system is what Bernie avoids, but to run must use that system. TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #227

Anthony "it could be my" Weiner? The guy that sent out a picture of his hot dog? demwing Jul 2015 #93

Maybe Gary Hart can weigh in too. roguevalley Jul 2015 #127

Don't forget John Edwards. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #137

Oh my. What a load of condescending crap. Not surprised about Weiner, not surprised this is on djean111 Jul 2015 #5

This is directly from the HRC campaign BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #182

Heh... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #214

He didn't go rogue, that's for sure BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #216

and then he pulled his dick out nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #7

And tripped over it. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #223

Well as much as I would like to never hear from.... Little Star Jul 2015 #8

He said Bernie "needs to explain what he's doing here in the first place." Really, Anthony? madfloridian Jul 2015 #15

Not to mention 20+ years in Congress for Bernie - TBF Jul 2015 #109

Obviously, it's very difficult for Anthony to understand marym625 Jul 2015 #175

So you accept him as a spokesperson for HRC. Are you sure you want to do that? Divernan Jul 2015 #72

pfffttttt Little Star Jul 2015 #153

Really? I think the questions should be: Live and Learn Jul 2015 #142

What an interesting shift of opinion... brooklynite Jul 2015 #9

What a nasty way to launch an attack on a candidate, any candidate. Ridicule us? madfloridian Jul 2015 #12

dickpic is hils new attack dog? that's rich!!! elehhhhna Jul 2015 #17

Attack dog? He's her Weiner dog. Akicita Jul 2015 #39

Arf! haikugal Jul 2015 #54

DUzy demwing Jul 2015 #101

I believe this approach will backfire on them AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #25

Yes, it will backfire. Anthony has little cred anymore.. madfloridian Jul 2015 #68

Carlos Danger is in the negative #s on cred. Divernan Jul 2015 #74

His wife is way way way more understanding than I would have been. madfloridian Jul 2015 #77

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #79

He isn't a 'Sex offender' AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #83

So if your daughter's husband did this on the down low, fine by you? No problem? Divernan Jul 2015 #90

If my daughters husband did it, it still wouldn't be a sex offense. AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #106

twitter has few or no regulations. Its the number one place used to share porn and images. Sunlei Jul 2015 #190

Disgraced Internet sex-troll udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #102

I agree with that AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #114

'She's not like that' lulz n/t udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #115

you're right. He's not your man and it's none of your business. Nancy pelosi underthematrix Jul 2015 #160

Danger! Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #230

They are throwing the proverbial turds at the wall AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #75

Well, they can't attack him on issues. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #81

I don't know about the HRC campaign, but her supporters here have attempted an attack from the left. cui bono Jul 2015 #122

I read one here that there are organized rec groups putting threads of him up in roguevalley Jul 2015 #130

omg, I JUST saw that on the 'greatest' page. cui bono Jul 2015 #134

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAA! I am glad they worry about us and our part time activities. If there is roguevalley Jul 2015 #135

Dear cui bono, marym625 Jul 2015 #143

Sorry, I had too much rec wine and found it hard to hit the button. cui bono Jul 2015 #145

ohm OK then marym625 Jul 2015 #150

Don't worry... cui bono Jul 2015 #170

. marym625 Jul 2015 #172

But I won't forget the old saying... cui bono Jul 2015 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Jul 2015 #174

Good advice! marym625 Jul 2015 #177

Edited BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #183

Check yo'self before you REC yo'self!!! cui bono Jul 2015 #184

No, they meet at the rec center, after driving there in their RVs (rec vehicles), but not tblue37 Jul 2015 #225

Luis 'what's his name, the socialist?' Gutierrez. G. worked in Congress for 20 years with appalachiablue Jul 2015 #123

Or because he is so damaged his reputation can't be hurt further. He has recognition, so he tblue37 Jul 2015 #224

And then we knew. artislife Jul 2015 #14

No, I really don't. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #16

As far as batting is concerned, that's a schwing and a miss for Carlos Danger.... n/t xocet Jul 2015 #69

I read that as baiting for Clinton London Lover Man Jul 2015 #219

We most often disagree. Wilms Jul 2015 #23

Nope, I wasn't here then. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #60

Who is it that's changed their opinions? cui bono Jul 2015 #121

the shift of opinion came about through the facts of his conduct. It was a sad day for me to find roguevalley Jul 2015 #128

Yep, same thing with John Edwards... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #138

Has it ever occurred to you that people can OPPOSE the vile tactics that were used, let's say sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #136

Hi, sabrina. bvar22 Jul 2015 #144

What is so interesting about it? Live and Learn Jul 2015 #147

So the guy who shared way too many personal pics on line wonders why Bernie runs as Dem?? madfloridian Jul 2015 #10

Party loyalty trumps ideology AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #11

I have one big question for Anthony Weiner 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #18

Good question! artislife Jul 2015 #22

We should get about 250,000 people to tweet that question to AW immediately. nt rbnyc Jul 2015 #32

hashtag that one! excellent question! 2banon Jul 2015 #40

Please steal it. I don't do twitter. nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #56

Bam! historylovr Jul 2015 #51

It DOESN'T, and it's about time for DU to learn it. elleng Jul 2015 #67

Martin who? 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #80

Stupidity gets YOU the representatives YOU deserve. elleng Jul 2015 #89

Back atcha 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #107

I like martin but I heard he lives ten feet up wall street's butt. I will like to know different if roguevalley Jul 2015 #131

Just off the top of my head, O'Malley called for reinstating Glass-Steagall and opposed fast track. Jim Lane Jul 2015 #152

I thought O'Malley knows DC London Lover Man Jul 2015 #220

Living in a contiguous state is no substitute for decades of progressive activism 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #222

That is THE question dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #94

+1 cui bono Jul 2015 #96

"He's great, so I'm going to ask a question that doesn't matter a whit." valerief Jul 2015 #19

It will matter to the Super Delegates frazzled Jul 2015 #63

Careful what you wish for dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #98

If he wins more delegates and more votes, they won't frazzled Jul 2015 #103

I remember '08 dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #180

Not going to happen frazzled Jul 2015 #192

Strongly disagree dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #194

+1 cui bono Jul 2015 #124

Yeah, pulling that sort of maneuver in 1968 worked out really well. jeff47 Jul 2015 #156

No one said anything about overriding the delegates frazzled Jul 2015 #176

The Democratic party would be signing their death warrant if the Super Delegates.. frylock Jul 2015 #203

Does nobody read here? frazzled Jul 2015 #205

+1 cui bono Jul 2015 #97

I can't decide who I think put Weiner up to this, Hillary or Bernie 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #179

So Bernie 'evolved' on being a Democrat. LOL wyldwolf Jul 2015 #20

Wonderful Guerrilla surrogate that no one will hold Hillary responsible for virtualobserver Jul 2015 #21

He lost me at..my wife works for HRC nc4bo Jul 2015 #24

Better to lift some big rocks Autumn Jul 2015 #30

Yep. Go away, Carlos Danger. Just go away. historylovr Jul 2015 #53

I had to chuckle a bit with my first reaction to completing that title. And then there libdem4life Jul 2015 #26

I agree with most of what you say, but Sanders is NOT running as an Independent. cui bono Jul 2015 #99

Has he filed papers? I think that's what's getting the Dems upset. In effect, he's running libdem4life Jul 2015 #108

In Vermont individual voters don't register to a party. cui bono Jul 2015 #120

That's been my understanding. Didn't know that about Obama. Let's hope the really libdem4life Jul 2015 #166

I think Bernie answered it completely. He thinks Hillary is a bad choice and Snotcicles Jul 2015 #27

I think the Democratic Party should feel honored someone of his credibility is willing to lead. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #35

I certainly am. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #84

Everybody has been hoping for someone like this to show up, Now he's knocking Snotcicles Jul 2015 #87

Anthony Weiner and his wife are Democrats. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #28

What percent of Americans consider themselves independent? 40-something? HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #31

Posted on yahoo finance? Now thats what I call outreach. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #41

Anyone who puts party over ideology has ZERO PRINCIPLES. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #50

Then explain Senator Sanders (I-VT). yallerdawg Jul 2015 #61

More comedy gold. Thanks; now I will go to the chili cookoff with a smile and a bounce in my step. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #65

What? Please explain, I don't get it. cui bono Jul 2015 #100

Your'e right. BERNIE SANDERS has ZERO principles underthematrix Jul 2015 #155

Yeah. Bernie Sanders has ZERO principles. That's about the stupidest fucking thing I've EVER heard. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #163

Care to elaborate on that? cui bono Jul 2015 #171

well, feel free to write them onto your ballot Scootaloo Jul 2015 #76

Seems like the "lost elections" are those of Third Way Dems BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #195

My big advice to Bernie is this. Don't open any texts from ANTHONY WEINER Autumn Jul 2015 #29

HE'S the latest attack dog? ROFL. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #33

It's brilliant! Brilliant I tell you! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #185

Your " Torn " alright, and you said why, still kissing your wifes ass, huh Athony ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #34

One of the central issues of our time . . . Depaysement Jul 2015 #36

I really, really hope this guy is speaking out on his own ibegurpard Jul 2015 #37

And I can't think of a better one. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #132

ha ibegurpard Jul 2015 #151

shhhh BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #186

You send out someone like this to try out a new attack line. jeff47 Jul 2015 #157

This man has no credibility They_Live Jul 2015 #38

New article about his wife, Huma Abedin. Hillary's Shadow is title of article. madfloridian Jul 2015 #42

If she's that tight with Hillary, then I can't imagine that Weiner Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #62

^^ this ^^ Myrina Jul 2015 #169

Anthony Weiner Alittleliberal Jul 2015 #43

This is exactly right. And running as an indy in the Democratic Primary may get MORE GE votes! cascadiance Jul 2015 #66

We can now be reasonably certain Hillary is running short of attack dogs. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #44

Thought for sure they'd keep Carlos Danger on the down low. Divernan Jul 2015 #71

You send out someone like this to try out a new attack jeff47 Jul 2015 #165

Fuck that skinny little screaming loser. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #45

I agree! Bernie is not a Democrat. Sancho Jul 2015 #46

LOL. Bernie Sanders is what most Democrats can only DREAM of being. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #52

Yep. Not bought by corporations. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #85

He answered his own question, imo fredamae Jul 2015 #47

Weiner has a point, but I also give Sanders credit for not Renew Deal Jul 2015 #48

Bernie's view on guns is also mainstream London Lover Man Jul 2015 #221

Bernie Sanders reasons for running are probably exactly what he has said they are The Second Stone Jul 2015 #55

If I were Hillary Puglover Jul 2015 #57

If I were Huma I would be offended that my husband was being used or allowing Autumn Jul 2015 #73

as many people said after they saw pics of Anthony's olddots Jul 2015 #58

aww the end, already!? MoveIt Jul 2015 #197

Weiner whine! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #59

Nice hit piece from the husband of the woman that serves as vice-chairwoman of Hillary 2016. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #64

ANTHONY WEINER... Purveyor Jul 2015 #70

Question back to you, Anthony: sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #82

A lot of people here keep on raising that question also. SheilaT Jul 2015 #86

well, I guess that answers the question of who the next surrogate will be...who's up next? nt antigop Jul 2015 #88

GO Team Clinton. This oughta do the trick!! FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #91

Weiner’s Wife Didn’t Disclose Consulting Work She Did While Serving in State Dept. antigop Jul 2015 #92

This needs to be an OP StandingInLeftField Jul 2015 #159

Shady. Like always, with anything Clinton-related. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #198

Carlos Danger rides again! NO way Bernie wins the all-important DickPic vote...... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #95

Who cares what this pervert says Politicalboi Jul 2015 #104

Weiner is only making Bernie look better in this article. cui bono Jul 2015 #105

jerry: c'mon, how was your date? restorefreedom Jul 2015 #110

It's a legitimate question. lovemydog Jul 2015 #111

Bernie has spoken of why many times. madfloridian Jul 2015 #112

Thanks madfloridian. lovemydog Jul 2015 #113

Here is one explanation. madfloridian Jul 2015 #116

Thanks. lovemydog Jul 2015 #117

Question for Weiner, did you finally stop sending onecaliberal Jul 2015 #118

A much better question davidpdx Jul 2015 #211

Precisely! onecaliberal Jul 2015 #212

No problem davidpdx Jul 2015 #213

Anthony, John Poet Jul 2015 #119

Fuck you, pervert... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #125

LOL, OK. Stellar Jul 2015 #140

What kills me about this dude... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #141

I just don't get why guys like showing their privates... Stellar Jul 2015 #146

They make us happy... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #148

Jebus! nt Stellar Jul 2015 #149

Sanders is running as a Democrat becaues he knows that a third party run will hand the White House Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #126

Exactly. Vermont is not the nation. Jim Lane Jul 2015 #154

How DARE anyone challenge The Queen! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #129

Notice the hit-and-run Sanders attack by the OP. And newbie too. Been a lot of those lately. Stellar Jul 2015 #139

Have to give Anthony credit for making sure his wife kept her maiden name. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #133

Interesting thread, from the replies I am not sure very many read the link far enough to know what Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #158

It's funny that Carlos Danger has no idea how google works when it keeps getting him in trouble. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #161

LOL! STOP! Stellar Jul 2015 #162

y'all make me so glad I'm African American underthematrix Jul 2015 #164

I don't think there is a single sentence in your post that doesn't have a factual error. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #167

Why aren't you a HRC supporter, you talk as though you are. Stellar Jul 2015 #191

Maybe the Roundup Ready Campaign is hard up... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #168

The Roundup Ready Campaign lol... Volaris Jul 2015 #178

:( CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #181

very well done opinion piece. Sunlei Jul 2015 #188

I hear this guy has some very well done pictures of his genitals too. 99Forever Jul 2015 #207

no I don't use twitter, its to hackable and reminds me of the old chat rooms where Sunlei Jul 2015 #208

But in this creeps well written opinion... 99Forever Jul 2015 #209

why don't you post the pictures, if you're so interested in showing them to others? Sunlei Jul 2015 #210

this is crazy TheFarseer Jul 2015 #193

I think Bernie made the right choice running as a Dem. If he ran Independent, we could possibly end YOHABLO Jul 2015 #196

Democratic Party leaders won't permit Sanders to win. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #199

Does this guy understand anything that doesn't involve pictures of his dick? frylock Jul 2015 #200

Doesn't he have someone to send a dick-pic to? truebrit71 Jul 2015 #201

Oh honey .... ronnykmarshall Jul 2015 #202

Hasn't paid his dues HassleCat Jul 2015 #204

Again, Malcolm X is right... Stellar Jul 2015 #206

"And his battle cry on behalf of working Americans is almost as good as Hillary Clinton’s." TransitJohn Jul 2015 #215

I'm sure Hillary is thrilled with such a high-caliber endorsement. KamaAina Jul 2015 #217

Bernie weighed the relative merits of a Democratic vs. 3rd Party run. senz Jul 2015 #218

Why do you think your opinion is relevant Mr. "let me send you a photo of my Tighty whiteys"? peacebird Jul 2015 #226

So is this a sign Camp Hillary is nervous? Sending her top aides hubby out w questions 4 Bernie? peacebird Jul 2015 #228

And Bernie does not dash his doodle at people on line. longship Jul 2015 #229