2016 Postmortem

cui bono

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33. Cheney had secret meetings with energy and no one liked that one bit.

Sun Jul 12, 2015, 03:14 AM

Jul 2015

Obama had secret meetings with health insurance companies and most people didn't like that one bit either.

Secret meetings are by definition secret. So that means no, there's no transparency. That's what secret is. It's not that having the meeting is secret, it's that the meeting itself is secret. Think TPP.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] madfloridian Jul 2015 OP

why private? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #1

Glad you thought about the source. Agschmid Jul 2015 #2

I fear the full private meeting may not be fully shared with membership completely. madfloridian Jul 2015 #3

Should it be? Agschmid Jul 2015 #4

Yes, it fucking well should be. delrem Jul 2015 #7

It is transparent, the meeting is announced. Agschmid Jul 2015 #8

BULLSHIT RESPONSE! delrem Jul 2015 #11

These are the ELECTED union officials. Agschmid Jul 2015 #14

I disagree. delrem Jul 2015 #21

The unions have gone rogue... Agschmid Jul 2015 #24

I'm totally upfront about what I said. delrem Jul 2015 #31

California, for example, at the government level has an Open Meetings Act. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #32

Cheney had secret meetings with energy and no one liked that one bit. cui bono Jul 2015 #33

What? I'm a union member and elected leadership chooses endorsements. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #12

Maybe that's why many teachers won't join unions anymore. madfloridian Jul 2015 #16

Teachers won't join unions anymore because they often get the benefits without the dues. Agschmid Jul 2015 #17

Members are obviously free to vote for any candidate they choose. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #25

So what? There's probably a lot of things we don't know yet. nt babylonsister Jul 2015 #5

Because Trumka is smart. RandySF Jul 2015 #6

does this meeting bother you, as well? bigtree Jul 2015 #9

Only if they don't share all with the membership openly. madfloridian Jul 2015 #13

what makes you think the details of the meeting were shared bigtree Jul 2015 #23

I doubt if such an open meeting would bother O'Malley, either. delrem Jul 2015 #15

what makes that meeting any more open than Clinton's? bigtree Jul 2015 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #10

you realize Sanders is going to have a meeting with the AFL-CIO's executive council, as well bigtree Jul 2015 #18

I'm pretty sure they will do it in a rally hall and 10,000 people will attend. Agschmid Jul 2015 #20

where do you see that reported? bigtree Jul 2015 #26

Sorry... Agschmid Jul 2015 #27

I just got that bigtree Jul 2015 #28

No big deal Agschmid Jul 2015 #29

They all had private meetings with the AFT also. madfloridian Jul 2015 #22

I guess I'm just wondering about Hillary highlighted in this post bigtree Jul 2015 #30

Hillary got the endorsement. The NEA will endorse. madfloridian Jul 2015 #41

they're perhaps more pragmatic about who they think they'll ultimately be dealing with bigtree Jul 2015 #46

Of course, isn't that what I just said? madfloridian Jul 2015 #48

why not? n/t chillfactor Jul 2015 #34

Most meetings between principals are held in private. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #35

Get real. What do you expect? That she'd invite the press? pnwmom Jul 2015 #36

Of course. They all do. But the findings and discussions should be openly available. madfloridian Jul 2015 #37

OMG hillary should never be allowed to have private meetings ever again nt msongs Jul 2015 #38

Cute, and a little rude. madfloridian Jul 2015 #42

So now there is general support for not involving the membership in endorsements? madfloridian Jul 2015 #39

you must be new to unions bigtree Jul 2015 #43

Only belonged for 33 years. I am stupid about most everything according to you and rest of DU madfloridian Jul 2015 #45

the sore spot then is that Bernie didn't get a nod from them bigtree Jul 2015 #47

No, I think it is time for a change in thinking. madfloridian Jul 2015 #49

It's not confusing to me. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #40

I hear complaints like yours from folks opposed to unions bigtree Jul 2015 #44

Deleting this thread because it ain't worth it. madfloridian Jul 2015 #50