2016 Postmortem

A Simple Game

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162. I have just two words for you, proof read.

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:54 AM

Jul 2015

Not voting for a Dem is the same as a half vote for the GOP? First there is no such thing as a half vote, and second the only way to vote for the GOP is to actually vote for the GOP. Not voting for a Dem is just that, not voting for someone, the only way someone gets your vote is to actually vote for them.

I have no idea what Howard Zinn meant, maybe you could explain it to me. On second thought never mind, it already confuses me enough.

GOP-liters from the far left? Do you even know what it means to be far left? Never mind, I already know the answer. But I agree it would be a good thing for all of those non-existent entities to be gone from DU. Now if we could just do something about all of these conservatives hanging out and posting on a liberal web site!

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Please STOP TELLING ME I'll Vote for Hillary Clinton Because I'M A CHICK. [View all] Segami Jul 2015 OP

Sold out to the powers that be. LWolf Jul 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Jul 2015 #52

If Hillary sold out she would be a much richer person: She's working for America lewebley3 Jul 2015 #197

Corporate America, specifically. Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #204

Yes, I have: No one owns Hillary: that is Sanders supporters lie lewebley3 Jul 2015 #207

Hillary Clinton Hauled in $47.5 million in her first 3 months d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #234

Hillary is raising more money because she has a lot of people who love and support her lewebley3 Jul 2015 #243

No kidding. Even those dudes on Wall Street love her. d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #244

Yes, most of New York and American loves Hillary: Even the people without money! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #245

Somehow I got on Emily's List e-mail list Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #2

I too unsubscribed after being a long time subscriber. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #46

I unsubscribed too MissDeeds Jul 2015 #68

Insulting, isn't it? They think they speak for all women. I want a LEADER sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #147

Apparently you weren't aware of the mission of Emily's List. Skinner Jul 2015 #193

I am very aware of the Mission of Emily's List, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #200

Your use of "also" in the last sentence gave me a chuckle. (nt) Skinner Jul 2015 #201

Well, I always like to brighten someone's day if I can. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #202

The get of emily's list who need you! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #198

I've always been allergic to arrogance, smugness Voice for Peace Jul 2015 #231

You'd think they'd have caught a clue by now Warpy Jul 2015 #233

I and I would bet almost everybody on DU Stevepol Jul 2015 #237

Yeah because Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, and Michele Bachmann... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #3

Are Angela Merkel and Margaret Thatcher nutjobs? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #26

I wouldn't vote for either of them either. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #31

I wasn't sure, but thanks for clarifying passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #42

No.Thatcher wa not a strong woman. Far from it. She wasn't 'quite the ticket' and things Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #168

Maybe strong is the wrong word passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #181

I knew what you meant, really. I was just making a point, my hobby-horse about Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #246

Even putting those idiots in the same "category" as Hillary demonstrates just how lacking the author still_one Jul 2015 #79

it's a debunking of the "becuase she's a woman" argument Scootaloo Jul 2015 #133

That is true. However, I think the argument that someone votes for someone because of gender, race, still_one Jul 2015 #136

And that's what the author of the piece is arguing against, if you read what she wrote Scootaloo Jul 2015 #137

sure, but it is preaching to the choir still_one Jul 2015 #140

Well, that wasn't the condemnation of the piece you started off with. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #141

My complaint was using Palin, Coulter, etc. as examples. I thought was pretty weak, because they still_one Jul 2015 #142

No, this was your complaint: Scootaloo Jul 2015 #148

I got it, and reedited. Of course you are referring to the subthread we are discussing, and I was still_one Jul 2015 #150

it's easy. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #151

ok, thanks still_one Jul 2015 #153

Not in my opinion Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #199

It's way more than that lark Jul 2015 #206

Well I am not convinced from your lack of a convincing argument. Did you forget her speech telling rhett o rick Jul 2015 #149

Then don't vote for her if she is the nominee. still_one Jul 2015 #152

Again, nothing of substance. Supporting HRC is supporting the Oligarchy. But I'm guessing rhett o rick Jul 2015 #155

you guessed wrong. Have a good day still_one Jul 2015 #156

A vote for the status quo ignores the 22% of American children living in poverty. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #242

But, but, but HRC stands for a less sexist oligarchy. Divernan Jul 2015 #161

So you're going to throw away your vote if the primary doesn't go your way. DanTex Jul 2015 #4

They do, actually. Plus with the millions they will prevent from voting (this should start a war randys1 Jul 2015 #7

It isn't throwing away the vote artislife Jul 2015 #27

Of course it is. The next president will either be a Dem or a Rep. DanTex Jul 2015 #35

When push comes to shove, I think most Bernie supporters will vote for HRC if she's the nominee thesquanderer Jul 2015 #47

Not according to this OP. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #63

I agree. If the author of the OP is a Democrat, she won't be the typical Democrat still_one Jul 2015 #154

Your perspective is naive and undemocratic. RiverNoord Jul 2015 #182

We actually have a two-party system, you might not be aware of that. DanTex Jul 2015 #183

That's highly debatable. RiverNoord Jul 2015 #219

That we have a two-party system is not debatable. DanTex Jul 2015 #222

...^ that 840high Jul 2015 #75

Making a stand right before the elections..... Sheepshank Jul 2015 #112

Maybe we are shifting from within artislife Jul 2015 #120

Not voting is essentially throwing away your vote. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #145

Where is Hillary getting my vote from? London Lover Man Jul 2015 #50

Nowhere, it looks like. Vote for who you like best in the primary. DanTex Jul 2015 #58

Wow I feel better now. I will vote for the best candidate in the General election, A Simple Game Jul 2015 #90

She'll win big in the primary. The GE is a different story. DanTex Jul 2015 #95

Not me, nope, can't vote for anyone that authorizes a war for political gain. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #101

Oof. Score another point for the GOP. DanTex Jul 2015 #105

Nope, not me, haven't voted for a Republican in over 30 years. You may not know this but, A Simple Game Jul 2015 #110

Not voting for a Dem is equivalent to half a vote for the GOP. DanTex Jul 2015 #111

I have just two words for you, proof read. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #162

Well, I was presuming an understanding of fractions and some capacity for abstraction. DanTex Jul 2015 #167

Your math makes a wrong assumption. It assumes A Simple Game Jul 2015 #186

A vote for anyone but a Dem or a Rep (for prez) is a wasted vote. DanTex Jul 2015 #188

Quit with the "Everyone is going to lose their SS and Medicare" it won't work with me. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #212

True, there are more issues than that. And the GOP is wrong on every one of them. DanTex Jul 2015 #214

And you will never understand how the Country got to where it is today. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #215

When there are two alternatives, I go for the better one. DanTex Jul 2015 #216

Speaking of sticking your head in the sand. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #238

Democrats are better than Repugs 95% of the time. lark Jul 2015 #210

Yes Democrats are better than Republicans most of the time. Please read the posts you A Simple Game Jul 2015 #213

I love the author's brilliance in that logic. That will show them........ still_one Jul 2015 #80

Maybe Nader can be convinced to run again redstateblues Jul 2015 #123

I wrote about this the other day tymorial Jul 2015 #5

People should vote for whom they want but identity politics is a right wing trope. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #13

Now you know how I felt eight years ago -- I'm a black chick! rocktivity Jul 2015 #6

I like this rebuttal from the comment section: Metric System Jul 2015 #8

Two big lies in that quote. winter is coming Jul 2015 #17

"...if you opt to cast your vote in favor of the Republican party" rock Jul 2015 #18

Not voting is selfish and irresponsible. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #9

What an insulting and childish reply. 99Forever Jul 2015 #24

Not as childish as this temper tantrum strawman of an op. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #43

It's called an opinion. 99Forever Jul 2015 #64

My vote belongs to ME. And if someone wants it, they have to EARN it. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #65

I agree with everything you said. I'm too old to throw away my votes anymore. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #92

Well, that person said in her diary sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #25

Voting straight Dem ticket with a Pres.Walker won't = progress. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #33

Voting for evil is irresponsible. 840high Jul 2015 #76

Completely agree. Amimnoch Jul 2015 #176

I also will not vote for Bernie Sanders just because he's a Jewish person... cascadiance Jul 2015 #10

LOL. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #12

You might love your jobs getting outsourced, and CORPORATE ISDS courts overruling our government... cascadiance Jul 2015 #14

Wait, you disagree with Obama about one issue, so he's a sellout? DanTex Jul 2015 #16

I picked one out of many... cascadiance Jul 2015 #22

Don't forget his support of education privatization ibegurpard Jul 2015 #30

I'm sure there are many more to list here too... cascadiance Jul 2015 #56

So no credit for ACA, stopping a depression, saving the auto industry, executive actions on DanTex Jul 2015 #32

No, progress to progressives means 1 step forward, 15 back. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #37

And now even Democrats, with so many corporocrats is becoming a "bad identity"... cascadiance Jul 2015 #51

Representatives represent their districts. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #62

Then why did states like Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alaska, etc. vote to RAISE the minimum wage?... cascadiance Jul 2015 #93

Wait, so you mean the exact same trend that has occurred.... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #96

What trend are you talking about? Eisenhower's warning of the military industrial complex?... cascadiance Jul 2015 #98

And yet those states vote regularly for Republicans all along the ballot mythology Jul 2015 #166

Who pushed the $15 minimum wage and won? artislife Jul 2015 #177

I would contend that it is because they don't feel they can trust CORPORATE Democrats! cascadiance Jul 2015 #187

Because all those crappy white guy presidents sure sufrommich Jul 2015 #23

There are both good and bad white guy presidents... cascadiance Jul 2015 #29

So which WASP male president sufrommich Jul 2015 #39

I guess that would be George Washington... cascadiance Jul 2015 #48

quite unfair to Bibi: he's only slaughtered people in ONE time zone MisterP Jul 2015 #69

I have never forgotten she said that. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #11

People make assumptions. But you know what they say about "to assume". mmonk Jul 2015 #15

Stopped reading and dismissed their opinion when they wrote: OKNancy Jul 2015 #19

What sexist claptrap from the Daily Kos. I'm a woman and CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #20

Well said. Thank you. 99Forever Jul 2015 #21

Ok... quickesst Jul 2015 #28

This is a political discussion forum, specifically geared to primaries. 99Forever Jul 2015 #36

Whatforever... quickesst Jul 2015 #53

You drop the f-bomb and then act startled when it comes at you? 99Forever Jul 2015 #66

ok... quickesst Jul 2015 #77

Isn't the whole purpose of these forums artislife Jul 2015 #88

I thought so quickesst Jul 2015 #106

It's a mine field.....nt artislife Jul 2015 #108

Haha quickesst Jul 2015 #109

The back and forth before, during and after the primaries....... wolfie001 Jul 2015 #34

A voice of reason. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #38

Thanks! wolfie001 Jul 2015 #41

Uh, we put up a "triangulator" in 2000. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #116

Had they counted the votes..... wolfie001 Jul 2015 #247

Had he not been a triangulator, it would not have been close enough to steal. jeff47 Jul 2015 #248

If Im played Identity poltics DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #40

Hillary has a 90% liberal voting record. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #44

as the late great jackpine Radical put it DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #71

He brought it up because it didn't fit his narrative LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #99

The fact that no one defined what "liberal" was DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #119

Elizabeth Warren is who the country needs as the first female President. jalan48 Jul 2015 #45

Inre the NY Senate seat... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #49

Are you saying that she bought her senate seat?nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #55

No. It was bought for her. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #59

There doesn't seem to be any limit to how low down sufrommich Jul 2015 #60

Sometimes when the truth is in the gutter you have no choice but to look down low. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #97

I also resent the assumption that I would automatically support Clinton because she is a woman. Chemisse Jul 2015 #54

Ok.. its because you are a woman. DCBob Jul 2015 #57

K&R! marym625 Jul 2015 #61

HRC stands for a less sexist oligarchy. Divernan Jul 2015 #67

I keep on trying to point out to SheilaT Jul 2015 #70

K&R MissDeeds Jul 2015 #72

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #73

I'm a chick and this chick WILL NOT be voting for this woman. NEVER! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #74

I have not seen a post on DU where a Hillary supporter has pledged NOT to vote for the Democratic still_one Jul 2015 #84

Some of us black chicks remember her race baiting in the last campaign. bravenak Jul 2015 #107

That wasn't my point though, was it? still_one Jul 2015 #122

That black chick said she was never voting for Clinton. bravenak Jul 2015 #124

My point is this. I have OBSERVED on DU that not ONE Clinton supporter said they would NOT support still_one Jul 2015 #125

I do not think she is a Sanders supporter. bravenak Jul 2015 #128

I suspect that the majority of Democrats, including those on DU, will vote for whoever the still_one Jul 2015 #134

Me too. That is the only one I wouldn't bother getting to the polls for. bravenak Jul 2015 #158

You maybe right: This maybe a GOP person lewebley3 Jul 2015 #195

No. She's not. bravenak Jul 2015 #240

Please don't go that way. Not only is it counterproductive, but it also means that DanTex Jul 2015 #179

I would be able to post just fine. Just not able to advocate against the nominee. bravenak Jul 2015 #239

Well I am a chick, and will be voting for Hillary: Go Hillary lewebley3 Jul 2015 #196

Good for you, but that doesn't mean that ALL chicks will be, which is the point of the OP. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #224

Unfortunately you are right: Some will be voting to help the GOP lewebley3 Jul 2015 #225

By supporting Hillary Clinton--agreed! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #226

I think the person writing this, has too much free time, and must be listening to all the inane still_one Jul 2015 #78

Agreed: Sill one: Good Post lewebley3 Jul 2015 #194

Thank you thank you thank you!!!! IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #81

If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, please bring it up again on DU, and let us know how you really still_one Jul 2015 #85

I live in a state that hasn't voted for a republican for president like 20 years IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #89

be my guest. still_one Jul 2015 #91

I voted with my gentials once FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #235

I appreciate your feelings but... HassleCat Jul 2015 #82

Women who support Hillary, do it, NOT because she is a woman, but because of her positions. still_one Jul 2015 #83

Except No Hillary Supporter actually mentions those positions Rilgin Jul 2015 #163

They'll claim you are a traitor to your sex if you don't vote for Hillary.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #86

O.K., I'm Voting for Hillary not becaue she is a women, BUT because lobodons Jul 2015 #87

I am voting for whoever the Democratic nominee is without hesitation. I also have no still_one Jul 2015 #127

I have been able to elect Women in to power artislife Jul 2015 #94

I'm voting for Hillary because she is the right woman for the job. boston bean Jul 2015 #100

Thank you for saying it. I was definitely thinking it. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #102

I agree. A woman prez would be cool but NOT as cool as progressive one! nt valerief Jul 2015 #103

what is really funny is DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #121

I have to say when Palin was first announced as McCain's artislife Jul 2015 #189

Likewise, stop telling me Hillary is not support by women and minorities. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #104

people like to generalize, but the reality is no one speaks for anyone, but that individual still_one Jul 2015 #129

Wow Depaysement Jul 2015 #113

she will get a LOT of votes because of her gender Doctor_J Jul 2015 #114

Kos???? Kos drove almost EVERY WOMAN off his site back in 2008 after telling them sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #115

If she's the nominee, then I'll vote for her. No spoiling. But I feel the BERN!!! Kennah Jul 2015 #117

and that is as cool as it comes, and who knows, Bernie may end up the nominee. The primaries aren't still_one Jul 2015 #130

I've alway heard, "If you don't vote, your're not allowed to complain" Sunlei Jul 2015 #118

Of course they are allowed to complain, even if they don't vote. The question is how much still_one Jul 2015 #131

oh sure everyone is free to complain and threaten not to vote. Sunlei Jul 2015 #138

I understand your point, and it is valid, but there our other things to vote for on a ballot also. still_one Jul 2015 #139

Of course. I wouldn't mind if people moved to R primary and helped nudge Trump to win Sunlei Jul 2015 #143

That would be a gift if Trump was the republican nominee still_one Jul 2015 #146

Scalia and his SCOTUS pals could be in control of the bodies of all "chicks" oasis Jul 2015 #126

you're right, those dizzy broads aren't respecting the 19th Amendment! time to undo it MisterP Jul 2015 #159

When chicks "chew" and bite off their noses in order to blind themselves oasis Jul 2015 #218

General question. Is "chick" considered a derogatory term? still_one Jul 2015 #132

Not by this chick. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #160

just wanted to see what the feeling was. Of course people can refer to themselves anyway they want still_one Jul 2015 #170

Agree 1000 percent! ReallyIAmAnOptimist Jul 2015 #135

She was still in Walmart lawyer mode, when she said that about baking cookies whereisjustice Jul 2015 #144

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #157

Hillary is right on the issues, and She has been leader of the Dem's lewebley3 Jul 2015 #192

And HRC Is A Defender Of Wall Street - Hence The Evil cantbeserious Jul 2015 #203

Sanders supporter lies:Hillary's her own wonderful person lewebley3 Jul 2015 #208

Calling A Fellow DUer A Liar Is Against DU Rules - One Might Consider Retracting That Accusation cantbeserious Jul 2015 #211

Not an accusation: But I will change my verb: some Due'r are spreading proganda. lewebley3 Jul 2015 #220

Hillary is a defender of America: Hence not Evil lewebley3 Jul 2015 #221

I would hope that Wisconsin is still a swing state IronLionZion Jul 2015 #164

Geez, You Almost Made Me Feel Guilty . . . Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #165

Hear, hear. This is the only DU I don't mind seeing weaponized. nt raouldukelives Jul 2015 #169

I'm voting for Hillary. Laser102 Jul 2015 #171

People still say "chick"? ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #172

You're right Chick: is a Sanders supporters word lewebley3 Jul 2015 #209

IT SURE IS!!1! I was instructed to use it by Big Rec! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #236

You're right Chick: is a Sanders supporters word AlbertCat Jul 2015 #241

I did not think Chickens could vote. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #173

You are right Evergeen Emerald: GO Hilllary!!! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #191

Women leaders aren't always good. Look at Margaret Thatcher Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #174

Well I'm not a "CHICK" and I'm voting for Hillary! nt William769 Jul 2015 #175

If you give a fuck who is she is voting for call me. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #178

"My response is this: I do not want Sarah Palin or Carly Fiorina or Michele Bachmann or Ann Coulter" NCTraveler Jul 2015 #180

Go Bernie ! GoneFishin Jul 2015 #184

The number of recs on this thread is telling.... BooScout Jul 2015 #185

Typical Sanders left wing ideologue: they are useless to Dem's party lewebley3 Jul 2015 #190

Sorry, if you don't vote Dem for president, you are voting Repug. lark Jul 2015 #205

Me: It's the Supreme Court. ananda Jul 2015 #217

SCOTUS decisions partnered with a GOP congress and WH. Axis of Evil. oasis Jul 2015 #223

Joni Ernst Syndrome. moondust Jul 2015 #227

It would show for once and all that women are equal in qualifications and gravitas. Really? Like jwirr Jul 2015 #228

Another vote for President Cruz at DU. onehandle Jul 2015 #229

Great post. Progressivism isn't identity politics. DirkGently Jul 2015 #230

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