2016 Postmortem

stevenleser

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32. Nope, that's why I'm backing a candidate that can actually win. nt

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If Bernie wins the primary, then I will refuse to vote in the General Election! [View all] DanTex Jul 2015 OP

I will enthusiastically vote for the Dem nominee. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #1

No kidding. Would seem like a no-brainer. Hillary, Bernie, O'Malley, whoever it is. DanTex Jul 2015 #3

Bernie and Hillary voted together 93% of the time... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #18

That's reassuring. But the 7% difference also meant big differences for the public interest. ancianita Jul 2015 #59

And Bernie voted yes on guns, F-35s, and no to closing Guantanamo. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #129

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT??? FUCK! You mean - gasp - he's not - gasp - PERFECT? calimary Jul 2015 #161

Same here Scootaloo Jul 2015 #26

Me too, because by 2020 the whole creep-to-the-right dynamic will have fully reversed itself, and GoneFishin Jul 2015 #34

'name removed' is a prolific poster. onehandle Jul 2015 #2

DU might consider a "name to be removed in the near future" feature. DanTex Jul 2015 #4

LOL. +1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #23

"name removed" is "name removed" for a reason Autumn Jul 2015 #5

True, but I didn't realize that "name removed" could rec an OP 100 times. DanTex Jul 2015 #6

Why... You're not suggesting some sort of pattern, are you? onehandle Jul 2015 #7

Sounds like a glitch you should report that so the admins. That would be an interesting Autumn Jul 2015 #11

Really, a glitch? Andy823 Jul 2015 #93

Did "name remove" rec that OP 100 times? Autumn Jul 2015 #97

The point is Andy823 Jul 2015 #100

The point is, I responded to a post that said no such thing as you are saying. Autumn Jul 2015 #103

No problem Andy823 Jul 2015 #111

Then why don't you come out and say what you are talking about instead of alluding to some Autumn Jul 2015 #115

No... "name removed" is reserved for trolls kdmorris Jul 2015 #117

Good point. Andy823 Jul 2015 #91

That OP was about more than just the first paragraph dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #162

Where is this OP? progressoid Jul 2015 #131

Here DanTex Jul 2015 #132

Ah, yeah I didn't read past the first paragraph of that one. n/t progressoid Jul 2015 #135

Me either there was a whole lotta drama. Agschmid Jul 2015 #143

I will definitely vote for our Democratic nominee Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #8

I live in California. My vote doesn't count for much. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #38

First of all, I get shorted because my state only has two senators AlbertCat Jul 2015 #68

Actually AlbertCat, the two-senator form has been getting quite a bit of criticism lately. senz Jul 2015 #116

California's voters per senator is way out of proportion with the JDPriestly Jul 2015 #157

I am a US citizen. The system is very unfair to people who live JDPriestly Jul 2015 #156

You are absolutely right about this. I read once that the US Senate is the least democratic DanTex Jul 2015 #159

Thanks. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #163

Again, the Senate is not the House. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #165

But thanks to the urbanization of America and the concentration of Americans in large numbers in JDPriestly Jul 2015 #166

The electoral college AlbertCat Jul 2015 #168

Got it, "god help them" as in Dem party, so you dont support the party...makes sense randys1 Jul 2015 #78

Not in California or any other non-competitive state. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #101

If Hillary is the nominee and hasn't won by the time the California JDPriestly Jul 2015 #146

If you don't participate in the process (i.e., VOTE) you have little to complain about, regardless.. George II Jul 2015 #147

I will vote for Bernie in the primary. The general election in JDPriestly Jul 2015 #158

Some people have access to their parents bank account and just don't get it. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #9

Very few might be making those comments openly. However... DanTex Jul 2015 #14

Said individual is a one percenter or is in a family of one percenters. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #22

There is a lot of silver-spoonism in the purity-or-nothing crowd. DanTex Jul 2015 #24

One of the reasons that I so strongly support Bernie is that he JDPriestly Jul 2015 #41

There are plenty of good reasons to support Bernie (or Hillary) in the primary. DanTex Jul 2015 #43

I don't agree with you on that. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #53

You really think the GOP will be better on SS than Hillary? DanTex Jul 2015 #61

Indeed, DanTex. There are ZERO reasons to sit out the general election. calimary Jul 2015 #65

I take NOTHING for granted in politics. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2015 #96

This. Agschmid Jul 2015 #145

I recommend this post ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #122

Well said calimary. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #140

There is a lot of silver-spoonism in the purity-or-nothing crowd. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #81

There's also a big dose of don't give a shit about anyone but myself. lark Jul 2015 #86

We cannot forget that there are a whole new class of millionaires over the last decade. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #77

1%ers are billionaires, not millionaires. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #79

Money still has little to do with it. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #83

Know them by their words. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #88

I can spot a silver spooner from a mile away. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #95

"Said individual is a one percenter or is in a family of one percenters." Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #104

"I thought 1%ers voted for Hillary or Republicans. " NCTraveler Jul 2015 #106

That's really just an ugly cheap shot, with a lot of made up crap in it. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #105

I have problems with her history and politics. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #108

There is a bigger national political dynamic going on here. earthside Jul 2015 #10

That effect is very small and won't impact the election. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #21

I would never say "comfortable", but passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #39

Thank you for that passiveporcupine! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #40

Not really. I'm a passivist, but I can be prickly at times. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #42

I see! It's a very cute name! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #56

thanks, I like your name too passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #112

How are you not being given a meaningful choice? You have Bernie. Does it get any better? DanTex Jul 2015 #25

Exactly. DNC needs to quit treating us like thoughtless cattle MBplayer Jul 2015 #27

Nobody I know is voting for Hillary out of duty and obligation. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #36

Sorry to bust your fantasy bubble ... earthside Jul 2015 #44

Then how are 92% of Dems recently polled just fine with voting for her? MoonRiver Jul 2015 #55

The "political baggage" you listed is 99.9% composed of RW lies. Why would you.... Hekate Jul 2015 #99

Really? earthside Jul 2015 #107

No one in politics is "as clean as a hound's tooth," but you've obviously chosen to believe... Hekate Jul 2015 #133

Speaking of Bernie's bubble too.... Sancho Jul 2015 #130

How are the TeaPubliKlans going to attack Sanders for the F35, the NRA, or for being a "gun nut"? TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #169

Did you cut and paste your list from FOX or Drudge? Very telling! redstateblues Jul 2015 #151

Just the things I remember about Hillary. earthside Jul 2015 #154

Hmm... MBplayer Jul 2015 #49

I'm ok with agreeing to disagree. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #54

The situation is changing rapidly, MoonRiver. senz Jul 2015 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author hughee99 Jul 2015 #90

Obama, recently, has done some very liberal things that have JDPriestly Jul 2015 #46

There will be no one to "blame" except for those who must sit the next one out. calimary Jul 2015 #69

you beat me to it.. I was just going to op on this Peacetrain Jul 2015 #12

I don't doubt the veracity of your OP title ibegurpard Jul 2015 #13

Well, I'm a liberal Dem, I like Bernie a lot. But you're right, there's no doubt he's gonna have a DanTex Jul 2015 #16

Oh he's reaching independents all right ibegurpard Jul 2015 #19

We'll see. Glad we can count on your support in the GE regardless of who gets the nomination! DanTex Jul 2015 #20

There is no 'center' in American politics AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #74

I think you will see a lot more posts artislife Jul 2015 #15

That is such a cool gif, artislife. senz Jul 2015 #119

You can find it in the Bernie forum under Logos! nt artislife Jul 2015 #121

Cause.....third way! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #17

Name Removed hasn't been with us for a while. madfloridian Jul 2015 #28

Oh I would vote for him, and when called on to do so would argue in his favor. stevenleser Jul 2015 #29

You'd like that wouldn't you? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #31

Nope, that's why I'm backing a candidate that can actually win. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #32

Never mind that he out-raised every republican in terms of individual donations arcane1 Jul 2015 #66

And there is more Bernie spin. That doesnt matter if other folks are raising 100 times what he is stevenleser Jul 2015 #71

No spin, just fact. arcane1 Jul 2015 #76

Right now the GOP pot of donations is being split in almost 2 dozen pieces. Come the GE... Hekate Jul 2015 #102

And the Kochs will throw another billion on top of that arcane1 Jul 2015 #118

Santorum is probably about the only one Bernie could beat LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #136

Nope, They can't even out fundraise him on their own. arcane1 Jul 2015 #138

They really don't need to out fundraise him on their own LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #139

PACs don't vote, people do. arcane1 Jul 2015 #141

Good luck with that LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #142

Thanks! arcane1 Jul 2015 #144

I was a Hillary Clinton supporter when she ran against Obama.... BooScout Jul 2015 #30

Me too. Since 1960, I have always voted for the most progressive NCjack Jul 2015 #84

Well Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #33

You are exactly correct DanTex... Sancho Jul 2015 #35

Well said. Laser102 Jul 2015 #48

Good to know. Our union position is the opposite here in Chicago, I don't know about Illinois. ancianita Jul 2015 #63

Here, we just fought a big battle to keep guns out of schools, and also have a state retirement plan. Sancho Jul 2015 #123

I hear you. Thanks... ancianita Jul 2015 #126

Well said DanTex... 40RatRod Jul 2015 #37

I will always vote for the democrat. Laser102 Jul 2015 #45

Theres a lot more in that post than the one sentence your focusing on, Dan. bunnies Jul 2015 #47

That was the bolded part. If someone says something so monumentally stupid DanTex Jul 2015 #58

Where did it say anywhere that the OP wanted a GOP victory? bunnies Jul 2015 #67

Not voting for a Dem is facilitating a GOP victory. DanTex Jul 2015 #70

I guess some just chose to get off the train altogether. bunnies Jul 2015 #87

Howard. My favorite. BTW, many of those recs are for support of this discussion, not the OP. ancianita Jul 2015 #137

I vote in every election, so I won't "refuse" to vote in the General if Hillary is nominated. Maedhros Jul 2015 #50

I'll vote for Bernie if he wins the primary, but I'm under no illusions: Paladin Jul 2015 #51

If Hillary . . . Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #52

It isn't about trolling. haikugal Jul 2015 #57

So Andy823 Jul 2015 #109

Who said they'll win? haikugal Jul 2015 #120

well yeah if you say so PatrynXX Jul 2015 #60

I'm waiting to see why I should vote for Hillary other than the reason that the other side is worse. jalan48 Jul 2015 #62

I don't understand that way of thinking bekkilyn Jul 2015 #64

Another day AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #72

i will write in bernie restorefreedom Jul 2015 #73

Yes, I don't understand. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #75

+1 Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #148

You had me going for a few seconds. lark Jul 2015 #80

right, 'cause then the real warmongers would get in MisterP Jul 2015 #82

As others have said here, and as I have consistently said, BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #85

The Write In Ballot Still Works In Many States cantbeserious Jul 2015 #89

This also illustrates why we need someone other than HRC Android3.14 Jul 2015 #92

Glad you're (probably) on board with helping your country. DanTex Jul 2015 #94

This isn't about Bernie Android3.14 Jul 2015 #98

Defensive, LOL. Cmon, that stuff is beneath you. DanTex Jul 2015 #113

That is absurd Cosmocat Jul 2015 #127

A shame she didn't lose her 2000 election Reter Jul 2015 #110

So, who did you vote for when you were voting against her? boston bean Jul 2015 #124

Wow. senz Jul 2015 #125

So you voted for Rick Lazio? onehandle Jul 2015 #134

I'll vote for the nominee and work for the nominee canvassing The Second Stone Jul 2015 #128

Totally agree, so many people are acting like this is the BSU or the HCU when its DU. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #149

I've always viewed it as fair warning. Chan790 Jul 2015 #150

The good thing is this removes any doubt as to whether factions of the far left are actually DanTex Jul 2015 #152

I've said it for some time. Chan790 Jul 2015 #155

Imo, it is HRC supporters after the pony PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #164

A GOP appointed SCOTUS will mean decades of misery for the 99 percent. You get it. oasis Jul 2015 #153

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Jul 2015 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jul 2015 #167