2016 Postmortem

bobbobbins01

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33. I guess we live in a post-racism and post-context world.

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:28 AM

Jul 2015

I was unaware of that. Thanks for making it clear that you're willing to misrepresent people in order to push your agenda. If you need to go to such deceitful lengths to smear someone, you should take a hard look at what your values really are. I believe there is a Nietzsche quote very appropriate here.

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We have overcome Racism, so says SCOTUS and Sanders. Ta-Nehisi Coates says no. [View all] sheshe2 Jul 2015 OP

... shenmue Jul 2015 #1

Thank you shenmue. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #5

You're welcome shenmue Jul 2015 #6

I think if you swap the word "overcome" with the word "UNCOVERED," we are closer to the damn mark! MADem Jul 2015 #2

Nailed it, MAdem. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #3

I believe this is a misrepresentation of his statement Trajan Jul 2015 #4

well put. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #7

Distorted. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #9

i think bernie recognizes restorefreedom Jul 2015 #11

I posted his words. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #8

And what do you believe he meant by these words, sheshe2? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #34

She meant that she thinks Bernie is a bubble headed idiot! Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #37

Now now, I want to hear what Sheseh2 thinks Scootaloo Jul 2015 #38

Ridiculing me was uncalled for. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #60

When someone makes a decision to deliberately misinterpret..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #39

Deliberately misinterpret?!? Gee, ya think? kath Jul 2015 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author kath Jul 2015 #49

Huge +1! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #70

This poster has a history of telling lies about Sanders, and exploiting race in the process arcane1 Jul 2015 #155

posts like these have motivated me to defend Bernie virtualobserver Jul 2015 #157

Agreed, it's depressing, but it makes me want to work harder for the Truth. arcane1 Jul 2015 #159

what part of the country do you live in? n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #161

California n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #162

Texas, myself virtualobserver Jul 2015 #163

That's where we need people the most! arcane1 Jul 2015 #164

I think he does not have a clue sheshe2 Jul 2015 #46

What do you think he meant by what he said, sheshe2? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #47

Hey Scoot. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #62

Where did you answer? Which post? kath Jul 2015 #63

It's bullshit. And you didn't answer. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #102

You have been called out on this bullshit previously. TM99 Jul 2015 #45

Fucking AMEN BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #76

+1bazillion! marym625 Jul 2015 #135

+1000 blackspade Jul 2015 #150

+1000 arcane1 Jul 2015 #158

Agree & know in fact how Sanders often says we have made great strides to overcome racsim, bigotry, appalachiablue Jul 2015 #64

What a thoughtful and interesting post. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #79

A second attempt to paint Sanders as uncaring on race despite evidence to the contrary, all to appalachiablue Jul 2015 #127

It is extremely insulting, yes. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #128

Thats so nice Scottie, just doing what I can. ~ To return to the poster, who wants appalachiablue Jul 2015 #133

I don't think the author would want to be used in such a way. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #134

Well-said arcane1 Jul 2015 #160

I saw no shred of an "accusation" in the OP. Did I misread it? George II Jul 2015 #103

Yes, but it's a helpful canard for certain people trying to push a certain candidate. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #115

A dishonest criticism of Sanders? On DU? arcane1 Jul 2015 #123

How do you know he didn't complete his statement? George II Jul 2015 #130

I've had enough of your nonsense Trajan Jul 2015 #131

OOOOOEWWWWeee.. He's "had enough of your nonsense"! Cha Jul 2015 #138

It was a deliberate lie. Just like their hidden post about militias arcane1 Jul 2015 #153

Guess Coates was right. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #10

Deflecting... kath Jul 2015 #51

No, of course, you're not "deflecting", she. Right on point. Cha Jul 2015 #140

Thanks you are right, not deflecting, Cha. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #142

This post makes me want to post negative stuff about Hillary Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #12

Right, because nothing negative about Hillary is being posted in GD-P... stevenleser Jul 2015 #13

Hey~ sheshe2 Jul 2015 #14

We get it. Bernie is a racist. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #17

And the ref calls it...illegal substitution on the field... stevenleser Jul 2015 #19

OMG! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #28

LOL nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #36

We get it. Bernie is a racist. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #40

Upon further review, the refs initial call stands. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #42

We get it. Bernie is a racist. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #54

Refer to Refs decision in post #19 nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #56

We need a new ref. A ref is supposed to be neutral. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #58

You report, and let us think we decided. You're my favorite Fox News personality. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #94

The fallacy ref throws two flags on you here, ad hominem and ergo decedo stevenleser Jul 2015 #96

Nice photos, Steve. Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #97

You earned 'em, you might as well enjoy 'em. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #98

Besides, Bernie's been on Fox more than I have. I guess this means you wont vote for him now? stevenleser Jul 2015 #104

Your smiley has a little tic. Get that looked at. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #106

Bernie's a guest, just like me, just a more frequent one. Guess you will have to think of something stevenleser Jul 2015 #108

That's right, Steve. I have problems velco-ing my shoes in the morning. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #110

That would not surprise me. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #111

All the good will you have generated over the years here Trajan Jul 2015 #146

I should care about this one sided opinion why exactly? You say nothing about the mean spiritedness stevenleser Jul 2015 #147

This is getting boring but it will get your post count up George II Jul 2015 #105

Odd behavior isn't it? Insisting someone said what they clearly didn't say. On a forum where all stevenleser Jul 2015 #107

The odd behavior is the deliberate misinterpretation of Bernie's words virtualobserver Jul 2015 #113

Nope. I didn't opine on that one way or the other in my posts here. See my #13 above stevenleser Jul 2015 #114

Yes, because someone with 23,000+ posts needs to pad their count frylock Jul 2015 #124

Bueno! Cha Jul 2015 #139

lol KMOD Jul 2015 #32

Maybe you could post some positive Hillary stuff. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #35

deflection Vattel Jul 2015 #90

Of what? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #100

Totally. NOTHING negative about Hillary is being posted ANYWHERE here!!! calimary Jul 2015 #121

In Nov '08, I knew Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #149

Actually it was a quote. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #16

Do you not understand the concept that WE as a nation had jumped from being Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #27

racism and bigotry are still alive and well KMOD Jul 2015 #41

We see examples of racism, violent and deadly racism, almost daily. George II Jul 2015 #109

No. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #43

Why did he not just say that? Because he is assuming we are intelligent enough to get it. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #53

Thank you for injecting some reason into the discussion. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #73

It would be nice if he took it more seriously. KMOD Jul 2015 #80

This is right thank you Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #57

Me too Enthusiast Jul 2015 #72

We get it. You think Bernie is a racist. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #15

No, you don't get it, LA. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #20

There are several POC DU members that support Bernie. You are ignoring their position. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #31

There are only several AfAm sheshe2 Jul 2015 #61

What she just said BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #77

+1 Ignorance and arrogance are such bad companions. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #122

Who is the poster talking about? Puglover Jul 2015 #88

+1000 marym625 Jul 2015 #95

So if we don't post in the clubhouse, TM99 Jul 2015 #91

Apparently. Bernie not caring about race 2.0- more of the preposterous, offensive and appalachiablue Jul 2015 #126

here we go again frylock Jul 2015 #18

Bernie has issues w/framing some of his ideas. But in the quote you refer to- KittyWampus Jul 2015 #21

Kitty. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #24

Okay, my interpretation of his quote is different. In any case, interesting article. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #26

We have made progress toward overcoming racism but still have a ways to go. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #29

"You assume what he meant, and are interpreting it to what you believe it means. " frylock Jul 2015 #116

this is how i see it also , my criticism of Sanders is more on campaign strategy/framing etc JI7 Jul 2015 #48

I don't think Bernie has any issues with framing his ideas. Live and Learn Jul 2015 #65

Ding ding ding ding kath Jul 2015 #67

It is pretty obvious, isn't it? nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #68

It's very obvious to me. Thank you. nt Enthusiast Jul 2015 #74

Not to mention that he actually said "we are far from eradicating racism" beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #71

Yes he would, it is right out of his play book. nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #78

Here's a link to the thread: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #81

ty nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #82

+1 Bernie's an excellent communicator and a powerful, effective speaker. It's just scouring his appalachiablue Jul 2015 #136

Can someone please explain to me how... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #22

Cause the OP'er put the name "Sanders" in the thread title. I wish she hadn't�. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #23

Wow I completely overlooked that. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #25

posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #30

Looking forward to later, then. nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #66

I guess we live in a post-racism and post-context world. bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #33

Pluuus one! nt Enthusiast Jul 2015 #75

Whole lot of abyss gazing going on here.. frylock Jul 2015 #125

Only to those who haven't felt the slavery their own color creates. Woulld surely make me move...n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #44

"Sanders Backs Voting Rights Bill " JI7 Jul 2015 #52

Bernie Sanders: "WE ARE FAR FROM ERADICATING RACISM" beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #55

"Hard working people...white people" - Hillary Clinton HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #59

Ugh........really. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #83

Kick and rec zappaman Jul 2015 #69

The comments below The Banter article are interesting. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #84

Mahalo for the heads up on that, Su.. Very Interesting! Cha Jul 2015 #141

John Roberts gutted the Voting Rights Act based on a lie that racism was no longer around Gothmog Jul 2015 #85

Bernie Sanders, June 18, 2015: "We are far from eradicating racism" Scuba Jul 2015 #86

Posted that quote and others in a new thread: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #87

Excellent op as usual she. K&R. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #89

These posts trying to paint Bernie as racist always remind me of Obama's anti gay evangelist filled Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #92

One does not negate the other. What LGBT endured in the period you describe doesnt mean stevenleser Jul 2015 #112

so you think this post is fair to Sanders? Vattel Jul 2015 #118

I try to be cautious about telling discriminated-against minorities what to think about stevenleser Jul 2015 #120

Like your friend I truly believe Bernie's heart is there, he was a member of SNCC randys1 Jul 2015 #129

And you see just in the last few days there has been a change. stevenleser Jul 2015 #148

You evaded my question, which was about a specific post by someone who is white. Vattel Jul 2015 #144

No, I gave two very specific answers about it. Re read what I wrote. Nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #145

I don't see the disagreement between Coates and Sanders that you do. Vattel Jul 2015 #93

I likeTa-Nehisi Coates. I like Bernie Sanders. Why are you trying to put them at odds? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #99

You're using the Daily Banter madokie Jul 2015 #101

that quote of Bernie's isn't exclusive to the Banter bigtree Jul 2015 #117

I actually love the Daily Banter. Cha Jul 2015 #137

thank you heaven05 Jul 2015 #119

Front and center is sheshe2 Jul 2015 #132

Excellent articles. ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #143

Giving Senator Sanders equal billing with the Roberts Court is pretty damned low. KeepItReal Jul 2015 #151

The OP also used a twice-banned DU troll to lie about Sanders on race arcane1 Jul 2015 #156

More half truths from a supporter of the chosen candidate of the wealthiest white 1%, Zorra Jul 2015 #152

Why do you keep telling lies? Sanders said no such thing. arcane1 Jul 2015 #154