2016 Postmortem

pocoloco

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138. Scotland may be bad also, but England is usually quoted as the utopia.

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:42 PM

Jul 2015

http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/01/englands-crime-rate-nearly-four-times-higher-than-united-states/

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/11/gun-crime-soars-in-england-where-guns-are-banned-n1464528

http://web.archive.org/web/20080706191657/http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2710596.ece

http://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6426&context=expresso

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Please stop telling me I'm voting for Sanders because I'm a purist who wants a pony. [View all] mmonk Jul 2015 OP

Well said! el_bryanto Jul 2015 #1

No, Hillary understands that "breaking up the banks" won't do any good... Sancho Jul 2015 #11

Thanks for that non sequitur and wall of text el_bryanto Jul 2015 #20

^^^what he said ^^^ peacebird Jul 2015 #27

Show me in the record where Hillary supported allowing derivatives to be unregulated... Sancho Jul 2015 #34

Money Quote - "Hillary (who represented Wall Street as a Senator)" el_bryanto Jul 2015 #47

Hillary could not attack her constituents as a Senator any more than Bernie... Sancho Jul 2015 #57

Bankers are destroying more lives than guns these days. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #62

+10000000000000 azmom Jul 2015 #115

I disagree with your premise... Sancho Jul 2015 #122

He isn't just shouting about banks. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #151

if you like violence... pocoloco Jul 2015 #88

I thought it was Scotland. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #127

Scotland may be bad also, but England is usually quoted as the utopia. pocoloco Jul 2015 #138

You mean by the right-wing. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #145

LOL pocoloco Jul 2015 #153

Okay,....ACCORDING to the right-wing.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #156

Way OT, but I have a shirt that says, "Poco Loco." Fawke Em Aug 2015 #182

Given that you said this: "If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination I'll support her " randys1 Jul 2015 #102

You may want to try and see... Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #128

Wow! There are six organizing meetings within 10 miles of me... hedda_foil Jul 2015 #168

Very Kewl! Marty McGraw Aug 2015 #181

We need the tax on Wall Street trades for mamy reasons. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #172

Sorry, but... elzenmahn Jul 2015 #37

Break the 'To Big To Fail' and finish the job by imprisoning the criminals running them. -none Jul 2015 #58

Clinton is and has always been a populist. Nitram Jul 2015 #106

That is the second time I have seen that meme. zeemike Jul 2015 #38

Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #59

The thing is, even if we had to change the whole world, I'd still want to vote for Bernie. winter is coming Jul 2015 #80

The reason behind breaking up the Banks imthevicar Jul 2015 #25

How do you plan to break up Chinese, French and German banks? Sancho Jul 2015 #35

Neither is leaving them as-is... elzenmahn Jul 2015 #39

Exactly. We know what our current path has gotten us. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #63

Why do we have to? The reason for breaking up the banks is so that they can no longer gamble jwirr Jul 2015 #68

Most US money is already gambled by big banks outside of the US... Sancho Jul 2015 #77

That is my point. Glass-Steagell did not allow that. But Hillary does not want to reinstate it. No jwirr Jul 2015 #93

I can't believe people don't know this! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #111

Unfortunately. One of my professors in college warned our class that Glass-Steagell was the jwirr Jul 2015 #113

Why do you think they wanted to get rid of it? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #118

Exactly. jwirr Jul 2015 #120

I learned the same thing in high school history class. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #169

Yeah I was a his supporter from the beginning. jwirr Jul 2015 #178

US "banks" like Goldman Sachs ignored Glass-Steagell... Sancho Jul 2015 #126

But if commercial banks and investment banks like Goldman were separate they would be doing jwirr Jul 2015 #132

I think they were using a variety of loopholes to do this before and after G-S Sancho Jul 2015 #143

I think where you and I are disagreeing is that you are talking about the world investment jwirr Jul 2015 #149

We won't have to insure the losses of banks in all those countries if the banks are JDPriestly Jul 2015 #176

And if we have a healthy America the whole world is better off because our investers will not be jwirr Jul 2015 #179

I agree with you on this essential point. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #174

The way that we can deal with foreign banks ... staggerleem Jul 2015 #121

I don't have any problem with leveling the playing field with VAT's or import taxes. Sancho Jul 2015 #123

Stay away from the free-trade Kool-Aid! staggerleem Jul 2015 #180

exactly right! J_J_ Jul 2015 #131

Any Bank that does not adhear to American Law, imthevicar Jul 2015 #170

Defeating the TPP would put the world's financial markets on notice that the American JDPriestly Jul 2015 #173

The super rich only HAVE that money to stash offshore because they have sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #83

Bernie is NOT the only politician to see the "problem". Sancho Jul 2015 #90

What is fucked up is our own Congress has passed laws that REQUIRE anyone living abroad davidpdx Jul 2015 #91

No, no, no, can't break up the banks. Now, let me invite you to partake of some of our jtuck004 Jul 2015 #95

Bill Clinton Should Endorse Bernie billhicks76 Jul 2015 #161

Breaking up the big US banks and not allowing them to gamble, to trade, with JDPriestly Jul 2015 #171

Could agree with you more. 99Forever Jul 2015 #2

Yeah, the 'pony' I want Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #3

It is f'ing beyond comprehension FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #4

+100000 J_J_ Jul 2015 #130

It's such a ridiculous talking point isn't it? K&R. nt stillwaiting Jul 2015 #5

Yes. Silly, sad, and dismissive of real problems affecting real lives. mmonk Jul 2015 #19

Then why tax the retirement of public employees and union members? Sancho Jul 2015 #6

I think that Bernie's FTT would exempt retirement plans and mutual funds. DanTex Jul 2015 #8

Not true...most public retirements trade just like millionaires... Sancho Jul 2015 #13

Yes, they do. But if the FTT law says "retirement funds don't have to pay this" DanTex Jul 2015 #14

I think if you read the proposal, it would affect large public retirement funds. Sancho Jul 2015 #40

I couldn't find Bernie's latest proposal, but here's a previous similar bill introduced in congress. DanTex Jul 2015 #51

Thank you. kenfrequed Jul 2015 #54

link..if state colleges benefited from tuition payment, why exempt them from an FTT? Sancho Jul 2015 #55

It's just the way the accounting works. DanTex Jul 2015 #61

Thank you dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #148

His proposed tax rate is 50 cents per $100 traded. That is a pretty tiny rate. peacebird Jul 2015 #28

More important than that, it would almost surely exempt retirement funds. DanTex Jul 2015 #66

Exactly, and I had assumed it did exclude retirement funds.... Guess I need to research that. peacebird Jul 2015 #75

50 cents per hundred dollars is 1/200th. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #65

Mutual fund turnover rates average close to 100% per year, maybe 90%. DanTex Jul 2015 #79

Florida's retirement fund is 200 Billion... Sancho Jul 2015 #86

Question about math. SheilaT Jul 2015 #81

Purists who want ponies are the ones who will sit out the GE if the primary doesn't go their way. DanTex Jul 2015 #7

Maybe that's your definition, but many others suggest electing Bernie is wanting ponies. Dawgs Jul 2015 #24

Fine, then I'll take the pony... elzenmahn Jul 2015 #43

Was this meant for me or the post above mine? Dawgs Jul 2015 #60

Seen more than a few people who have a problem with it, actually Scootaloo Jul 2015 #129

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Jul 2015 #9

We appreciate your compliance Android3.14 Jul 2015 #18

Are you familiar with the Terms of Service for this board? oberliner Jul 2015 #21

Nope! TM99 Jul 2015 #41

Not a threat oberliner Jul 2015 #46

If I dodn't know better, TM99, I'd think you took great pleasure in dumping on... Nitram Jul 2015 #140

You don't know better. TM99 Jul 2015 #162

And Bernie Sanders IS RUNNING AS A DEMOCRAT... elzenmahn Jul 2015 #44

Yes indeed he is oberliner Jul 2015 #48

Oh looky, we have another bully in the forum Android3.14 Jul 2015 #94

Gee, thanks frylock Jul 2015 #107

Oh, are these your jackboots? Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #150

Why yes; yes, I am! winter is coming Jul 2015 #160

And oh wow, you'd bring down the wrath. But you are missing something. I will always rhett o rick Jul 2015 #167

"we appreciate your compliance?" You sound like an android. Nitram Jul 2015 #108

Why the hate for ponies anyway? blackspade Jul 2015 #10

Yes, clean and abundant water would help since it is essential to life itself. mmonk Jul 2015 #15

Cuz ponies are difficult. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #87

K&R CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #12

It's amazing how many will adopt the con artists' rhetoric... polichick Jul 2015 #16

Please stop telling me you're voting! sofa king Jul 2015 #17

Thank you. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #100

And you left out gerrymandering. mmonk Jul 2015 #137

+ one million J_J_ Jul 2015 #147

My "pony" is Social Security. My "unicorn" is Medicare. Scuba Jul 2015 #22

I want a ponicorn because I want the Democrats to boot the Republicans cstanleytech Jul 2015 #26

this wing of the party openly called people who want it Greedy Geezers and say we have MisterP Jul 2015 #117

Purist? I wouldnt call you that at all because supporting Bernie is 100% ok just like cstanleytech Jul 2015 #23

+1. Yes. I will vote for Democrats. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #89

I strongly dislike the term "purist" and am now avoiding using it. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #29

You are exactly right, mmonk! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #30

True that. mmonk Jul 2015 #50

I prefer the older name for it. Horse and sparrow. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #69

+1 jwirr Jul 2015 #76

primary voters should be purists (to they extent each of us is) alc Jul 2015 #31

I don't think you are unreasonable for wanting those things.... Walk away Jul 2015 #32

Deluded? Maedhros Jul 2015 #104

Yes....deluded. Walk away Jul 2015 #155

Waaaah..... BooScout Jul 2015 #33

If she somehow wins the primary, TM99 Jul 2015 #42

I suggest you read the TOS of DU BooScout Jul 2015 #71

Oh FFS, the ToS TM99 Jul 2015 #92

Great. Another hall monitor. frylock Jul 2015 #109

We don't have a nominee yet, do we? HappyMe Jul 2015 #144

You mock those us of who been wrecked by such policy. mmonk Jul 2015 #52

cruelty and mockery of Sanders supporters are the stock in trade carolinayellowdog Jul 2015 #136

I heard empathy was a choice nt artislife Jul 2015 #158

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #36

K & R! SoapBox Jul 2015 #45

Please, stop the whining Politicub Jul 2015 #49

Great response. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #56

Bernie fans are setting new records for use of logical fallacies. I've had to go to the fallacy ref stevenleser Jul 2015 #72

Yep. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #70

From my perspective, there are many reasons why Hillary is unfit for the Presidency. Maedhros Jul 2015 #105

+1000000 J_J_ Jul 2015 #146

I remember when Obama supporters were accused of treating him as a messiah.. frylock Jul 2015 #110

Never thought I'd hear Right Wing Memes on DU d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #124

Why not both? Roy Rolling Jul 2015 #53

K&R! marym625 Jul 2015 #64

They are still sayin that? iamthebandfanman Jul 2015 #67

How many examples can you point to skepticscott Jul 2015 #73

OK. You're voting for Sanders because you're a lefty who likes almond milk. Arkana Jul 2015 #74

Sorry, us lefties are voting for Bernie because we and those we love cannot afford almond milk. jwirr Jul 2015 #85

Obama colsohlibgal Jul 2015 #78

LGBTers once wanted ponies Prism Jul 2015 #82

Yep. That's the first thing I thought of. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #101

All true....I'm so tired of the third way finger wagging. nt haikugal Jul 2015 #114

Gee, yesterday it was about "stop telling me I will vote for Hillary because I am a woman" still_one Jul 2015 #84

Well, you know, you can count on one or more OPs telling us very sternly that we better djean111 Jul 2015 #96

I have no doubt. I am waiting for the one on Donald Trump though. I really love this Kabuki show still_one Jul 2015 #97

Oooh! You reminded me! I have not seen a "Say Hello to President Trump!" as yet. djean111 Jul 2015 #98

but. but but olddots Jul 2015 #99

I admit it HassleCat Jul 2015 #103

Stop bashing the Pony Community! Indepatriot Jul 2015 #112

always talkin' 'bout the Pride of Krakow, eh? MisterP Jul 2015 #166

Merchants of doubts!!! azmom Jul 2015 #116

Anything that is not right wing AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #119

I've gotten called names already PatrynXX Jul 2015 #125

Besides that, ponys are terrible on a hardwood floor. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #133

Not if they're unicorn ponies; those poop floor wax. nt Xipe Totec Jul 2015 #134

Correction: a floor wax that is also a dessert topping. n/t winter is coming Jul 2015 #159

Notice that the "pony" argument always comes from the right side of the target candidate? arcane1 Jul 2015 #135

Certainly. It means we don't care what you want or need or the country. mmonk Jul 2015 #139

With all due respect, it wouldn't be so rough around here if some Bernie fans DID "ask for these calimary Jul 2015 #141

with all due respect, from a very lukewarm Sanders supporter carolinayellowdog Jul 2015 #152

No, the Bush and GOP crashed the economy and sent facotres over sea! lewebley3 Jul 2015 #142

Mmonk, you are a very decent person who cares. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #154

"You're a purist!" Lordquinton Jul 2015 #157

I'd reather be a purist who wants a pony intheflow Jul 2015 #163

Hillary represents everything that is wrong with Wall Street... she is an opportunist, it will whereisjustice Jul 2015 #164

I'm voting for Sanders because I want single payer healthcare and expanded Social Security. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #165

I'm not a purist, but I DO want a Pony! And Hillary says John Poet Jul 2015 #175

This is not an official quote PATRICK Jul 2015 #177